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Close Call - Did PAP Almost Cause 40 Deaths?

akunei

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Ms tracy,

I am very curious and would like to know what would u do if u can call the shot?

if u accept them, think of following issues...

* take them in and let them stay here for how long?
* where to house them? what if they escape and become illegal immigrants?
* when can send them back or send them back to where?
* if need medical operation, who pays for it?
* who if they refuse to leave after settling down? can we throw them out?
* how to answer to singaporean as it involves taxpayers' money
* if we help this time, what if there is a second batch coming?

tracy...please enlighten us.....
 

Narong Wongwan

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our gov got a no refugee policy. used to have a camp for Vietnamese, also no more and all repatriated. 90's when Suharto collapsed and Indonesia was very chaotic, also not allow to take Indonesian in if they come in boats and declare themselves as refugee. even they jump into waters also not allow to pick them up. St john island was modified into a holding centre with watch towers. if u go St John island now u can see high fencing and watch towers everywhere, it were from the 90's and still there.
No refugee policy but got open door FTs policy........
RSN should have just bomb the 40 fucktards to pieces.....as a warning to other like minded refugees
 

Picardo

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In spite of her sweet demeanour, the very fact that she is chooses to 'sleep with the devil' makes her morally on par with that feet-stomping airhead who got in by grabbing on to GCT's coat-tail.

sure...but better than obeying and sleeping with the devil
 
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Picardo

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Probabaly put them up at P. Tekong or another island first while a final solution is found. Start a humanitarian fun-raising effort, etc. Just how did Malaysia manage to find a solution?

Ms tracy,

I am very curious and would like to know what would u do if u can call the shot?

if u accept them, think of following issues...

* take them in and let them stay here for how long?
* where to house them? what if they escape and become illegal immigrants?
* when can send them back or send them back to where?
* if need medical operation, who pays for it?
* who if they refuse to leave after settling down? can we throw them out?
* how to answer to singaporean as it involves taxpayers' money
* if we help this time, what if there is a second batch coming?

tracy...please enlighten us.....
 

Narong Wongwan

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Probabaly put them up at P. Tekong or another island first while a final solution is found. Start a humanitarian fun-raising effort, etc. Just how did Malaysia manage to find a solution?
I think better odds of world ending 2 days later......
These white multi-millionaires never do non profitable business one.......increase social welfare by 30 lousy bucks also must argue until face green green in parliament........free food and lodgings for refugees? You got to be kidding!
 

SgParent

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KUALA LUMPUR - Malaysia's maritime agency on Tuesday said it "rescued" 40 Myanmar shipwreck survivors, who are thought to be Muslim Rohingya fleeing ethnic violence who had been denied entry to Singapore.


S'pore denies entry to ship carrying 40 boat people
Displaced and stateless Rohingyas fleeing hell and facing limbo...

I am open to how we should handle such cases.

Without any document/information on the passengers, it is really difficult to make a call on the spot whether to allow entry to them or not. And the fact they are on a Vietnamese-registered makes it even more risky, fishy.

Anyway from reliable sources, SOP or in practice, our Navy/Coastal Patrol will tow such boat to the open sea, give them food and water and wave them goodbye. So I think it is not as inhumane as reported lah.
 

Picardo

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Waving them good bye to be tossed about in the rough waves of the OPEN SEAS is without doubt an act of inhumanity. And feeding them some food before 'launching' them to face their final perilous ordeal cannot be decribed as 'not inhumane'.

I am open to how we should handle such cases.

Without any document/information on the passengers, it is really difficult to make a call on the spot whether to allow entry to them or not. And the fact they are on a Vietnamese-registered makes it even more risky, fishy.

Anyway from reliable sources, SOP or in practice, our Navy/Coastal Patrol will tow such boat to the open sea, give them food and water and wave them goodbye. So I think it is not as inhumane as reported lah.
 

SgParent

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Waving them good bye to be tossed about in the rough waves of the OPEN SEAS is without doubt an act of inhumanity. And feeding them some food before 'launching' them to face their final perilous ordeal cannot be decribed as 'not inhumane'.

Talk is free.

If the Coastal Patrol let them into Singapore, then what? Who to contact? Where to house the people?

Prove your point by calling the relevant department immediately to send the boat people to your house.

Just a gentle reminder, these are only one boat of 40 people. If there is a second boat, a third. Then what?
 

drifter

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"Singapore had turned away the ship carrying the 40 survivors "

PAP govt denied them entry and safety and they almost drowned at sea..if they drowned, not pap's fault?

Singapore is not a refugees camp ..period. You want to save someone you must know their background .. Would u let a rapists or murderers to stay in your house and risk your family life because you think they deserve help ? :wink:
 

drifter

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"Singapore had turned away the ship carrying the 40 survivors "

PAP govt denied them entry and safety and they almost drowned at sea..if they drowned, not pap's fault?

Singapore is not a refugees camp ..period. You want to save someone you must know their background .. Would u let a rapists or murderers to stay in your house and risk your family life because you think they deserve help ? :wink: if Singapore goverment do not control those refugees and let any Tom dick or Harry come the. What will happen to Singapore security ? As usually woman like to solve problem using their emotion :wink:
 
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drifter

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Probabaly put them up at P. Tekong or another island first while a final solution is found. Start a humanitarian fun-raising effort, etc. Just how did Malaysia manage to find a solution?

Whose going to pay for all that ? Singaporean ? :wink:
 

drifter

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Ms tracy,

I am very curious and would like to know what would u do if u can call the shot?

if u accept them, think of following issues...

* take them in and let them stay here for how long?
* where to house them? what if they escape and become illegal immigrants?
* when can send them back or send them back to where?
* if need medical operation, who pays for it?
* who if they refuse to leave after settling down? can we throw them out?
* how to answer to singaporean as it involves taxpayers' money
* if we help this time, what if there is a second batch coming?

tracy...please enlighten us.....

She is using her emotion to think and not her brain.. That's why woman cannot lead a country :wink:
 

drifter

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Please read properly. SG turned away the ship that rescued the 40 survivors, they were not in danger of drowning. Malaysian authorities then took in the survivors from that ship.

I'm not surprise by her at all :wink: she love to paint a different picture :wink:
 

Thick Face Black Heart

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Singapore is not a refugees camp ..period. You want to save someone you must know their background .. Would u let a rapists or murderers to stay in your house and risk your family life because you think they deserve help ? :wink: if Singapore goverment do not control those refugees and let any Tom dick or Harry come the. What will happen to Singapore security ? As usually woman like to solve problem using their emotion :wink:


If those 40 refugees had Ebola, her act of saving 40 lives will result in 40,000 deaths.
 

Picardo

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What makes it so 'well said'?

Aren't all the bedbugs already allowed in causing much havoc? In the worst case like that mentioned, aren't the UN agencies also able to chip in to help them? Humanity is not just about profits and profits alone.

Well said ... Bro . some ppl just refuse to see the whole picture when trying to be helpful .
 
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drifter

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What makes it so 'well said'?

Aren't all the bedbugs already allowed in causing much havoc? In the worst case like that mentioned, aren't the UN agencies also able to chip in to help them? Humanity is not just about profits and profits alone.

Saving life is also not just about humanity .. U must know what kind of ppl u save too .yes , Singapore already full of those trash so we don't need more trash to come .
 
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