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Christians waging war against Secular?

numero uno

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For once i agree.

yeap. these scums arseholes(all three of them) think they are above the law/garmen and secular people. If the garmen do not come down hard in them, then they would get embolden and next challenge the muslims like right to preach and convert them and then ALL hell would literally break loose not only locally but in the region and easily become racial because of these radicals. that's why we need lky and these people are just trying their luck now. i hope they get whacked real hard.
 

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Okay, let me explain these in simple layman terms:

1. The staff was dismissed and she challenged it as being "unfair dismissal" according to Sinkie employment laws.
 
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2. Legitimate grounds for dismissal obviously depends on the nature of the job.

Example 1: Bargain Hen is a 60 plus surgeon. His hands, while steady enough to write and type normally, do not make the grade anymore for surgery where a tiny error of a few millimetres can lead to instant death for a patient. The hospital at which Bargain Hen works decides to fire him. Is this unfair dismissal? No. The reason for the dismissal is related to his work as a surgeon.

Example 2: Kaypoh Auntie is 40 plus typist. Her hands have become unsteady lately, however she can write and type normally, it does not affect her work as a typist. Her employer fires her for having unsteady hands. Is this unfair dismissal? Yes. The reason for dismissal is not related to her work and does not affect it.

3. What is the nature of the church employee's work? Marriage counseling. Is her adultery related to her work?

The staff was the “designated representative” to meet couples seeking to wed — and to explain what was required of them — and thus her employment “bears sufficient or close proximity” with its mission, the church added.

Yes, very related, because she is expected to guide members of the congregation who are getting married on proper conduct. How is she going to do that when the whole damn church knows that she herself has breached those rules of proper conduct flagrantly?

4. The Manpower Ministar should be shot for the crime of not understanding the laws that he is supposed to be enforcing.

In his affidavit, Mr Khong also hit out at how the MOM conducted the inquiry into the dismissal. In particular, he said the MOM’s Assistant Commissioner for Labour had, during a meeting on Oct 8 last year, made an “unwarranted” reference to his daughter — she had a child out of wedlock — which was “tantamount to a personal attack”.
Arguing that his daughter Priscilla’s conduct was irrelevant to the case because she was never an FCBC employee and that she had confessed and sought forgiveness before her pastors, Mr Khong said: “I am surprised that (the Assistant Commissioner for Labour), as a representative of MOM, would make such comments without a full understanding of the facts.”

5. This Assistant Commissioner for Labour should be fired. Only employment matters are within the Manpower Ministry's purview. The pastor's daughter is not an employee and it is none of that overpaid Ministry's business. Controlling the influx of foreign "talents" by ensuring that those admitted indeed have qualifications which are needed by the Sinkie economy on the other hand falls squarely within this Ministry's purview and everybody knows that it has failed MISERABLY.

He also took issue with the ministry for only recording statements from the church’s junior staff, and not any of its leaders. The Assistant Commissioner for Labour’s conduct and the MOM’s failure to take the church leaders’ statements meant that the inquiry and Mr Tan’s subsequent decision were “tainted with bias”, Mr Khong claimed.

6. This is typical Lightning way of doing things. Junior staff are easily intimidated. It taints the proceedings and subject them to successful challenge in Court for being unfair. Imagine a divorce case in which the mediator only listens to the wife, but not the husband. Sama sama.

Quoted passages are from this article on Today:

http://www.todayonline.com/singapore/church-seeking-guidance-what-constitutes-religious-affairs
 

lianbeng

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lianbeng wonders why a minister of a country should interfere with a minister of God? :rolleyes: who is bigger?
 

Asterix

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lianbeng wonders why a minister of a country should interfere with a minister of God? :rolleyes: who is bigger?

No need to wonder, the Ministar of Slave Labour
Wrongly applied the secular employment laws
He still thinks that Sinkies are daft and ball less
Mention losing side must pay other's legal bills
Most Sinkie sheep will retreat and quietly obey
Ministar's decision though it be wrong and stupid

Unfortunately face conscious Ministar encountered
Someone who is prepared to question his authority
And unlike Madam V has the financial wherewithal
Now Earthly Ministar's balls shrink and to save face
Only way his PAPzi type knows how
Engages the idiotic Lightning brigade

Ah Meng why you say I char bor arh
Sinkieland is no place for young man
Bright as you don't waste you time there
World is your oyster and more important
First World governments make mistake
Investigate, apologise and reform
Not try fucking best to fool the masses
With useless motherhood statements
Like state laws prevail over religion

Precise point fucking stupid Ministar
Wrongly applied the state laws
Anyone can challenge his decision
By applying for judicial review
Tom Dick and Atheist also can
Pastor is no exception
Let Ministar's balls shrink
Provided the Sinkies courts are fair
A very very big if ... ... ...
 

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lianbeng says: when a worldly govt crossfired into godly affairs Satan is at war with God in the heavenly places we cannot see!:biggrin:
 

Asterix

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Asterix says: there is no heaven, no satan and most probably no God. nothing to stop helpless humans in believing in god and may a thousand cults bloom. if Earthly Ministar don't know how to apply secular law correctly to a particular situation and every case is different then he ought to be shot. if Ministar happens to be paid OUT OF THIS WORLD salary, then he after being shot, he should be sent to hell, if it exists. If not, his limbs should be torn apart and fed to the dogs.
 

lianbeng

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Asterix says: there is no heaven, no satan and most probably no God. nothing to stop helpless humans in believing in god and may a thousand cults bloom. if Earthly Ministar don't know how to apply secular law correctly to a particular situation and every case is different then he ought to be shot. if Ministar happens to be paid OUT OF THIS WORLD salary, then he after being shot, he should be sent to hell, if it exists. If not, his limbs should be torn apart and fed to the dogs.

lianbeng replies: no heaven where got hell leh?:biggrin:
 

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by the incredibly flawed logic in the above arguments, if you are a counsellor you cannot divorce? what rubbish is that? former gang members are the best counsellors. so are former addicts. because they know best from experience. the state employs many marriage counsellors too. do they all have to obey this stupid rule? are you a lawyer? since you claim to be better than the layman
 

WongMengMeng

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By the incrediby flawed logic of this Rushifa Idiot, drug addicts who are still abusing drugs are the best counselors for an anti-drug campaign and gang members who are still active and rioting regularly are the best counselors for an anti-gang campaign.

What fuck logic is incrediby STEWPIG RushedTooFar talking. Probably talking through his ass while high on marijuana.

The layman understands that a marriage counselor in a church is not a marriage counselor in her personal capacity. Everything she says and do in her JOB, she is doing so as a representative of the church. Just as everything RushedTooFar says and do on Sammyboy, he does so as paid representative of the Lightning at the miserly rate of $2 per post.

Worst, she is not analogous to a former drug addict or former gang member. RushedTooFar read too fast but didn't understand a single word and air rushed through one ear and went out the other, proving that his brain is indeed EMPTY. She had been counseled herself by the church leaders that if she wants to keep her job, she must refrain from activities which are inconsistent with her role as a church marriage counselor. She refused. She is not analogous to a "former" drug addict. She is analogous to a drug addict who is still abusing heroin everyday and RushedTooFar and ThinkTooLittle wants her to be counselor in an anti-drug campaign? Bwahahahahahaha. What a fucking idiot and Useless PAP IB. Thinks Sinkies are as daft as him.

Ooi, useless JiakLiaoBee PAP IB, Repent Before It's Too Late!

Otherwise, remember to wipe your useless mouth clean before you :kma::kma::kma:




by the incredibly flawed logic in the above arguments, if you are a counsellor you cannot divorce? what rubbish is that? former gang members are the best counsellors. so are former addicts. because they know best from experience. the state employs many marriage counsellors too. do they all have to obey this stupid rule? are you a lawyer? since you claim to be better than the layman
 
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