Chinese ruled Altaic 400 years while Altaic ruled Chinese 1000 years

[HonkieSingie]

It's kind of amazing how these nomadic Mongolic/Tungustic tribes had ruled the Chinese so many times despite being outnumbered by Chinese 100 to 1. China had like 150-200 million while according to Chinese records estimate Mongolia had only 2 million while Manchuria 2-3 million during medieval periods. The barbarians who ruled China came mostly from Mongolia, Manchuria and some burmese minorites of China and many of them migrated to China others especially like the Mongols who conquered Europe and Middle east migrated and intermixed with the local people ( there descendants the Hazara and Nogais ). The only time Han Chinese had managed to rule Mongolians, Manchus, Koreans was only for 400 years was during the Han dynasty, Ming dynasty, Republic of China and and CCP while these Altaic barbarians had ruled Northern Han for 1000 years. It makes me question how much barbarian blood northern Han had right now.

Modern Northern Han are genetically most closest to Northern Mongoloid genetic groups like Tibetans, Bhutanese, Qinhai and other sino-tibetan speaking minorities of Northern China while Southern Han are genetically in between Northern Han and South Mongoloid minorities of Southern China

FACTS

Han had ruled Altaic tribes for 400 years with only 3 Chinese dynasties and with PRC and CCP.

Altaic had ruled Northern Han Chinese for 1000+ years with 11 barbarian dynasties/kingdoms and Southern Han for 340 years with only 2 dynasties


CONQUEST DYNASTIES of non- Han origin.


Parts of 'Northern China'

Wu Hu Era
Former Qin (351–394) founded by the Di

Northern Wei (386–535) by Xianbei

Northern Zhou (557–581) founded by the Xianbei

Post-Tang

Liao (907–1125) founded by the Khitans

Later Tang (923–936) founded by the Shatuo Turks

Later Jin (936–947) founded by the Shatuo Turks. Later Jin founder Shi Jingtang claimed patrilineal Han Chinese ancestry.

Later Han (947–951) founded by the Shatuo Turks. Sources conflict as to the origin of the Later Han and Northern Han Emperors, some indicate Shatuo ancestry while another claims
that the Emperors claimed patrilineal Han Chinese ancestry.

Northern Han in China (951–979) (founded by Shato) See above note on the Later Han's origins, Northern Han was founded by the same family as Later Han.

Western Xia (1038–1227) founded by the Tanguts

Jin (1115–1234) founded by the Jurchen

ALL CHINA


Yuan (1279–1368) founded by the Mongols , it is 1234 - 1368 if you include only North China.

Qing (1662–1911) founded by the Manchus

 

[JohnTan]

It's a known fact that chinks can't fight well, be it one to one or as an organized army. Chinks are only good fighters and generals when fighting fellow chinks. When fighting foreigners, Chinks usually get their asses whipped.

 

[HonkieSingie]

It's a known fact that chinks can't fight well, be it one to one or as an organized army. Chinks are only good fighters and generals when fighting fellow chinks. When fighting foreigners, Chinks usually get their asses whipped.

True with only 2 million population with army of only 250,000 Mongolian soldiers they conquered the world

Mongolians had conquered like 50 countries/ states compared while China only 6. The 1 billions chinks can only ever extend to Tibet, Inner Mongolia, Manchuria ( not korea in the map ), Uyghur Turks east Turkistan, Taiwan, Hong Kong.

 

[HonkieSingie]

Even China's dynasties golden age expansion happened during Tang dynasty which was mixed with Xianbei ( non-Han people ).

Although this dynasty was a ethnic Han rule the Tang emperors was a mixblood of Han and Xianbei. Basically this dynasty is created by people of Han and Hansized Xianbei

 

[frenchbriefs]

its well known that chinese are cowards and han jians.....in order to control a massive population of hundreds and hundreds of millions all u need is a million cowards......there was no way for the japanese to defeat the entire china population,but all they needed was a million cowards and traitors.u only need one LKY to sell the entire country out to wolves and the rest of us will fall like dominoes.

 

[JohnTan]

True with only 2 million population with army of only 250,000 Mongolian soldiers they conquered the world

Mongolians had conquered like 50 countries/ states compared while China only 6. The 1 billions chinks can only ever extend to Tibet, Inner Mongolia, Manchuria ( not korea in the map ), Uyghur Turks east Turkistan, Taiwan, Hong Kong.

The Mongol army was largely on horseback. It was mobile, disciplined and relied heavily on horse archers.

Chink army was largely infantry. Given their geographical position, it is very difficult for infantry to traverse the sort of distance the Mongols could. That's why the chink emperors had to contend themselves with fighting only against their neighbouring countries.

The Mongol leaders had a great deal of trust in their generals, often giving them independent command of military corps to fight theatres of war. Chink emperors are usually very suspicious of their generals and kept them on a very tight leash. Needless to say, despite the chinks boasting that they have millions of soldiers, chink military adventures usually end in defeat against much smaller Mongol armies.

The white folk, which include the Cossacks, prove themselves to be far superior fighters. In the end, a few thousand Cossacks cavalry colonized Siberia, much of Mongolia and pacified the tartars, something that hordes of chink soldiers could not do at all. The chinks like to boast of their medieval superior military technologies including chink cannon and chink gunpowder, which on hindsight, turned out to be grossly overrated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_conquest_of_Siberia

 

[HonkieSingie]

The Mongol army was largely on horseback. It was mobile, disciplined and relied heavily on horse archers.

Chink army was largely infantry. Given their geographical position, it is very difficult for infantry to traverse the sort of distance the Mongols could. That's why the chink emperors had to contend themselves with fighting only against their neighbouring countries.

The Mongol leaders had a great deal of trust in their generals, often giving them independent command of military corps to fight theatres of war. Chink emperors are usually very suspicious of their generals and kept them on a very tight leash. Needless to say, despite the chinks boasting that they have millions of soldiers, chink military adventures usually end in defeat against much smaller Mongol armies.

The white folk, which include the Cossacks, prove themselves to be far superior fighters. In the end, a few thousand Cossacks cavalry colonized Siberia, much of Mongolia and pacified the tartars, something that hordes of chink soldiers could not do at all. The chinks like to boast of their medieval superior military technologies including chink cannon and chink gunpowder, which on hindsight, turned out to be grossly overrated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_conquest_of_Siberia

The chinks did defeat the Xiognu and Gokturks, for some reason the Chinks have a good history of defeating Turks but suck at fighting against Mongolians and Manchurians while the Vietnamese and other Southeast Asian kicked Mongolian/Manchus ass most of the time.

But the worse fighters in Asia are Indians. The Indians were in additions of being ruled and conquered by 15 foreign invaders like Greeks, Persians, Yuezhi Sassanid, Afghans and many Central Asian Turkic dynasties they also lose to the Chinese during the Sino-Indian war.

Cossaks are a pretty much extinct ethnic group though. The Cossacks had guns while the Siberian tribes had only sticks and arrows.
In truth, chinks could never had conquer Mongolians without modern military weapons although they ruled inner mongolia during the Tang dynasty. The Chinks with modern weapon did manage to rule Inner mongols for 150 years but only Mongolia for 3 years from 1919 - 1921. Chinks are just are weak against mongols.

 

[JohnTan]

The chinks did defeat the Xiognu and Gokturks, for some reason the Chinks have a good history of defeating Turks but suck at fighting against Mongolians and Manchurians while the Vietnamese and other Southeast Asian kicked Mongolian/Manchus ass most of the time.

But the worse fighters in Asia are Indians. The Indians were in additions of being ruled and conquered by 15 foreign invaders like Greeks, Persians, Yuezhi Sassanid, Afghans and many Central Asian Turkic dynasties they also lose to the Chinese during the Sino-Indian war.

Cossaks are a pretty much extinct ethnic group though. The Cossacks had guns while the Siberian tribes had only sticks and arrows.
In truth, chinks could never had conquer Mongolians without modern military weapons although they ruled inner mongolia during the Tang dynasty. The Chinks with modern weapon did manage to rule Inner mongols for 150 years but only Mongolia for 3 years from 1919 - 1921. Chinks are just are weak against mongols.

The cossacks were a pretty tough people. They got beat by the Mongols, learnt their tactics and evolved with the times. 16th century warfare was still dominated by swords and spears, despite the increasing use of cannon. Guns (muskets and arquebus) of the 16th century were notoriously inaccurate and slow to load despite being able to pierce armour and scare horses. I wouldn't dismiss the local siberian tribes with merely sticks and arrows.

The Hindus and Buddhists (all ah nehs) in India were slaughtered by the Muslims most of the time because they were too pacifist and did not put enough effort into warfare. Even Muslim ah nehs could fight better than hindu ah nehs most of the time. The Hindus were saved by a general called Bajirao in the early 18th century, who whipped Muslim ass repeatedly. He was well-known as a cavalry commander, just like the Mongols. I think the ah nehs made a movie about him last year, which not surprisingly, did very well at the box office. This Bajirao ah neh played a big role in saving Hinduism in India.

The chinks often lost to the Mongols because the chinks insisted on their inferior military hierarchy of distrust and their poor use of cavalry. In the rolling plains of Mongolia, you need good cavalry, not just infantry. The enemy on horseback would simply be running circles around the clumsy infantry formation.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bajirao_I

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bajirao_Mastani

 

[HonkieSingie]

Make it 17 foreign dynasties/kingdoms that conquered northern chinks

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteen_Kingdoms

Sixteen Kingdoms of the Five Barbarians because most of the kingdoms were founded by ethnic Xiongnu, Xianbei, Di, Jie, Qiang, and Dingling rulers who took on Chinese dynastic names. Among the handful of the states founded by Han Chinese (Former Liang, Western Liang, Ran Wei and Northern Yan), several founders had close relations with ethnic minorities.


Northern China was ruled 310- 370 by 5 barbarian kingdom


All northern China again 五胡十六国

 

[syed putra]

If you study world map closely, from the plains of manchuria, all the way to ural mountains in russia, nothing but flat grassland.
Th3 monggol army, as long as there is grass, its food for their sheeps and horses. One armed mongol may have several horses so if one died in warfare, he got many others to substitute. Plus dead horse become food. And blood is a good substitute for water or milk which they drank from animals if they have too.
The mongols live in mobile cities which move with the army. They too did not build permanent cities like malays except shandu (xanadu) a city built due to chinese influence but abandoned.
In latvia, there are 1000 year old mosque, brought in by mongol conquest of the middle east by the cossacks.
The cossacks, i believe were allied to mongols, just like the turks, khitans etc.
Before chinggis and kublai, there were other conquerers who brought terror to europe from the steppes. One of whom is attila the hun(khan?) Who nearly brought rome on its knees.

 

[eatshitndie]

If you study world map closely, from the plains of manchuria, all the way to ural mountains in russia, nothing but flat grassland.
Th3 monggol army, as long as there is grass, its food for their sheeps and horses. One armed mongol may have several horses so if one died in warfare, he got many others to substitute. Plus dead horse become food. And blood is a good substitute for water or milk which they drank from animals if they have too.
The mongols live in mobile cities which move with the army. They too did not build permanent cities like malays except shandu (xanadu) a city built due to chinese influence but abandoned.
In latvia, there are 1000 year old mosque, brought in by mongol conquest of the middle east by the cossacks.
The cossacks, i believe were allied to mongols, just like the turks, khitans etc.
Before chinggis and kublai, there were other conquerers who brought terror to europe from the steppes. One of whom is attila the hun(khan?) Who nearly brought rome on its knees.

genghis destroyed the ruling caliphate in his era, conquered lands beyond the caliphate and stalled caliphate and islamic expansions into asia and europe. without the mongols, europe would be engaged in losing crusader wars with muslims until the caliphate became too powerful to resist with ever-expanding conquest and influence from central asia to north africa to eastern europe. in a tragic twist the mongols actually saved europe from a formidable onslaught by a muslim alliance (egyptians, turks, persians, assyrians, babylonians, arabs). the mongols also wanted europe for themselves. as mongols were tolerant of all religions and open to religious influence from conquered lands, they fell into the muslim trap as their mixed offsprings (after raping and marrying muslim women) dropped other religions and adopted islam as their sole religion, thanks to the strong influence of their mothers, teachers and muslim retainers who were kept alive as administrators and local satraps or advisors. in a way, islam reverse-conquered the mongols via inter-marriages and having muslim women bear the yoke of mongol pricks. assimilation via open legs.

 

[Emmanuel]

Even China's dynasties golden age expansion happened during Tang dynasty which was mixed with Xianbei ( non-Han people ).

Although this dynasty was a ethnic Han rule the Tang emperors was a mixblood of Han and Xianbei. Basically this dynasty is created by people of Han and Hansized Xianbei

fuck off la so what?

Modern chinese ppl aren't pure han.

Are english people like pure english?

No they are not. They are mixed with anglos and saxons and later the normans after they defeated king harold at the battle of hastings yet all of them look "ang moh". Your the type of fucker that will judge chinese on a different standard compared to other races. For example i told you the modern english man is a mix of anglo and saxon and norman and probably mixed with scottish, welsh, irish etc since they are all under the british empire and you would go oh that's fine they are still pure. Yet judge Chinese ppl differently. Idiot. The modern day Chinese is quite different from ppl during the tang dynasty just as the modern day British person is different from someone from say King Arthur's time.

 

[syed putra]

fuck off la so what?

Modern chinese ppl aren't pure han.

Are english people like pure english?

No they are not. They are mixed with anglos and saxons and later the normans after they defeated king harold at the battle of hastings yet all of them look "ang moh". Your the type of fucker that will judge chinese on a different standard compared to other races. For example i told you the modern english man is a mix of anglo and saxon and norman and probably mixed with scottish, welsh, irish etc since they are all under the british empire and you would go oh that's fine they are still pure. Yet judge Chinese ppl differently. Idiot. The modern day Chinese is quite different from ppl during the tang dynasty just as the modern day British person is different from someone from say King Arthur's time.

King arthur was a celt. England is actually angle land. Land of the angles, a german tribe.or anglo saxon.normans were descendants of vikings. When they mixed everything up, they were like the mongols, ruled nations around the world.

 

[syed putra]

The chinks did defeat the Xiognu and Gokturks, for some reason the Chinks have a good history of defeating Turks but suck at fighting against Mongolians and Manchurians while the Vietnamese and other Southeast Asian kicked Mongolian/Manchus ass most of the time.

But the worse fighters in Asia are Indians. The Indians were in additions of being ruled and conquered by 15 foreign invaders like Greeks, Persians, Yuezhi Sassanid, Afghans and many Central Asian Turkic dynasties they also lose to the Chinese during the Sino-Indian war.

Cossaks are a pretty much extinct ethnic group though. The Cossacks had guns while the Siberian tribes had only sticks and arrows.
In truth, chinks could never had conquer Mongolians without modern military weapons although they ruled inner mongolia during the Tang dynasty. The Chinks with modern weapon did manage to rule Inner mongols for 150 years but only Mongolia for 3 years from 1919 - 1921. Chinks are just are weak against mongols.

The mongols and manchus are people of the plains. They can fight in open warfare on grassland or flat fertile plains that lies on both side of the yellow river and yangtze. All they had to do was device a way to cross the rivers.

But in vietnam its different. Weather is hotter. And its full of trees.suitable for guerilla warfare vietnamese are famed for.besidea, mongols hate heat. They live in land that feeezers below 40deg C.

 

[ChineseDog]

It's a known fact that chinks can't fight well, be it one to one or as an organized army. Chinks are only good fighters and generals when fighting fellow chinks. When fighting foreigners, Chinks usually get their asses whipped.

Good job my fellow chinese we chinks are only good in fighting among ourselves

its well known that chinese are cowards and han jians.....in order to control a massive population of hundreds and hundreds of millions all u need is a million cowards......there was no way for the japanese to defeat the entire china population,but all they needed was a million cowards and traitors.u only need one LKY to sell the entire country out to wolves and the rest of us will fall like dominoes.

Good job my fellow chinese dog we chinks are cowards

The Mongol army was largely on horseback. It was mobile, disciplined and relied heavily on horse archers.

Chink army was largely infantry. Given their geographical position, it is very difficult for infantry to traverse the sort of distance the Mongols could. That's why the chink emperors had to contend themselves with fighting only against their neighbouring countries.

The Mongol leaders had a great deal of trust in their generals, often giving them independent command of military corps to fight theatres of war. Chink emperors are usually very suspicious of their generals and kept them on a very tight leash. Needless to say, despite the chinks boasting that they have millions of soldiers, chink military adventures usually end in defeat against much smaller Mongol armies.

The white folk, which include the Cossacks, prove themselves to be far superior fighters. In the end, a few thousand Cossacks cavalry colonized Siberia, much of Mongolia and pacified the tartars, something that hordes of chink soldiers could not do at all. The chinks like to boast of their medieval superior military technologies including chink cannon and chink gunpowder, which on hindsight, turned out to be grossly overrated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_conquest_of_Siberia

Good job my fellow chinese dog we chinks are useless unlike the superior Cossacks.

 

[Emmanuel]

King arthur was a celt. England is actually angle land. Land of the angles, a german tribe.or anglo saxon.normans were descendants of vikings. When they mixed everything up, they were like the mongols, ruled nations around the world.

England might be land of the angles but the ppl over there are anglo saxon mixed with norman french and in today's england probably every race around the world. The fact of the matter is they aren't pure and have not been for a damn long time. That fucker chinesedog hongkiesinkie was trying to say tang dynasty ppl aren't pure hans aka pure chinese and trying to define them by today's chinese which is fucking stupid. The modern day european isn't pure unlike his ancestors from thousands of years ago and yet were i to bring this up chinesedogs like him wouldn't mind if they aren't pure but only judge chinese on being "impure". Double standards again.