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China ‘not ready to win wars’ despite PLA modernisation

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China ‘not ready to win wars’ despite PLA modernisation, says US report

Report by Rand Corporation for Congress finds graft, poor staffing and lack of training hinders the military - and some retired generals agree

PUBLISHED : Thursday, 12 February, 2015, 12:39pm
UPDATED : Friday, 13 February, 2015, 9:20am

Minnie Chan [email protected]

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Soldiers of the People's Liberation Army (PLA) Marine Corps clean their rifles inside a tent during a military drill at a military base in Taonan. Photo: Reuters

The People's Liberation Army is incapable of winning wars even though it has spent heavily on modernisation over the past two decades, according to a report commissioned by a US congressional committee.

Chinese military experts said the shortcomings identified were valid, and the report could be a "good reference" to the PLA leadership as it showed a thorough understanding of the army's latest developments.

The report by Santa Monica-based research group Rand Corporation, which was released yesterday, said the PLA faced continuing vulnerability because of widespread corruption, lack of qualified personnel and insufficient training.

"Although the PLA's capabilities have improved dramatically [amid its military modernisation], its remaining weaknesses increase the risk of failure to successfully perform some of the missions Chinese Communist Party leaders may task it to execute," said the report, sponsored by the US-China Economic and Security Review Commission.

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Beijing-based retired Major General Xu Guangyu said that as a veteran, he would like to thank the Rand Corporation for its efforts to help the Chinese military to understand its shortcomings.

"I agree that corruption is one of the key problems that should be tackled. That's why President Xi Jinping has urged the anti-graft watchdog to weed out corruption in the army by all means," he said.

The report points to critical weaknesses in the PLA in two categories: organisational and combat capabilities. It said a party-ruled army could be contributing to potential risk, citing the rift between then premier Wen Jiabao and Guo Boxiong, who was vice-chairman of the PLA's supreme Central Military Commission (CMC) during the 2008's earthquake in Sichuan province.

Wen, who had no military rank, made a tearful call for the air force to send helicopters to aid the rescue, but there was no response from the military because the army takes its orders only from the CMC.

The report said the PLA enjoyed an almost absolute immunity from external oversight, budgetary transparency, and accountability to the legislature for how it spent its funds and operates. It cited the recent arrests of two prominent military figures, Gu Junshan , former deputy head of the army's logistic department, and former CMC vice-chairman Xu Caihou , on suspicion of graft.

Li Jie, a retired senior colonel with the navy, said it was a fact that "there is a certain gap" between the US and Chinese militaries even though the PLA had been trying to narrow the distance.

"But I have to say that under the existing political situation in China, it's impractical and impossible to turn the PLA into a national army because [the principle the] 'party commands the gun' had been a rule and core value of the army," he said.

"The report indicates the US army has tried all efforts to understand the PLA and done the work quite well. We have to recognise that many of the shortcomings mentioned by the report are all facts and could be a good reference to Beijing, too."

The report said the PLA navy and air force faced challenges when integrating complex modern weapons and multiple generations of aircraft, while the development of defence industry suffered from problems such as entrenched monopolies and cost overruns.

Xu, the retired officer in Beijing, said the leadership was trying to address threats posed by graft. "The PLA was saddled with rampant corruption because of the failure to set up an efficient check-and-police system in the army as Beijing just focused on economic development for the past three decades," Xu said. "And now China is stepping up its efforts to plug the loopholes to set up such a comprehensive system amid the ongoing anti-graft campaign."

The defence ministry did not comment on the report.

 

Froggy

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[video=youtube;OE02rVNDBH4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OE02rVNDBH4[/video]
 

JohnTan

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And yet China has already beaten Vietnam and Pinoyland in recent years to claim over a million square miles worth of strategy sea....
 

frenchbriefs

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China has already conquered the world thru its shit and pee everywhere policy and shi chuan cuisine.there is no need to modernise anything and win wars because the whole world is already made in China.
 
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sleaguepunter

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No matter how "low cost" J31 is, PLA cannot afford to have a couple hundred of it. Then the rest of it fighters are still make up of the 1960s Mig-21. US has over 2200 third gen fighters available and a couple more thousands of them mothball in desert. Even J31 are better than everything in US arsenal, I never thought I use this phrase on US, quantity is also a quality, the sheer numbers of US aircrafts will overwhelm the J31.

By the way, US has the ability to bomb Peking with sheath bombers while China cannot do the same to Washington.

And most important of all, PLA aircrews never have any combat experience while most US aircrew went thru combat since 9-11. PLA aircrews are limited in numbers, not much reservists whereas US can tap on a large numbers of reservists who are join the national air guard to replace combat losses.
 

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The spectre of a powerful PLA or PLN force sailing around the South China Sea is one of the reasons that the SAF justifies a $12 billion annual budget. I have always stated that there is no feasible or realistic military threat to singapore not now and not for the next 20 years. This article confirms that.
 

greenies

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The spectre of a powerful PLA or PLN force sailing around the South China Sea is one of the reasons that the SAF justifies a $12 billion annual budget. I have always stated that there is no feasible or realistic military threat to singapore not now and not for the next 20 years. This article confirms that.

I do not think Sinkie defence is to counter China.
It is for our two neighbours in the north and the south.
 

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all the analysis are for reference only, when they fight then only we will know. in ww2, the Germans defeated the widely perceived best ground army, the French in just 45 days. the widely perceived 2nd best ground army and the 3rd largest navy, the Japanese can't defeat outright the unranked and much inferior Chinese forces for 8 years. the best armed forces on paper do not always win.
 

Papsmearer

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all the analysis are for reference only, when they fight then only we will know. in ww2, the Germans defeated the widely perceived best ground army, the French in just 45 days. the widely perceived 2nd best ground army and the 3rd largest navy, the Japanese can't defeat outright the unranked and much inferior Chinese forces for 8 years. the best armed forces on paper do not always win.

The best equipped army in the world and the biggest army in the world is useless without good military leadership. A good military leader can defeat a much larger army with a smaller army. Its debatable whether the PLA has such a leadership and for sure the SAF does not.
 
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