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LauMeng

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Table games earn very low points. It's the same at Genting Malaysia. On the other hand, playing slot machines is better in term of earning points, ever clock up to 10 GPs at one single machine within an hours at Genting.

09/01/2011 SLOT-MONTE CARLO POINTS EARNED 14.13
09/01/2011 SLOT-CIRCUS PALACE POINTS EARNED 25.05
11/01/2011 SLOT-INTERNATIONAL ROOM POINTS EARNED 10.68
 

longlicky

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The chips at the high roller tables in both Genting and RWs utilise embedded RF smart chips that allow the casino to track the actual amount being bet for each hand.

The very low points earned suggest that the vast amounts mentioned in the FRs highly exaggerated.

IC. so you suggested i am blowing the amount that I bet. That my bet 500 or 100 for start and double up to 6th hands is to entertain the forumer here (for you Info. Maxim room min bet is 500).

So you may also suggested the 150KM RM i post here is fake as the only top 2 note is real RM and the rest.... suggest what ever you want.

It happened twice (i hardly check the point i earn. only ;ate;y when redeem point to eat. found my point is getting less. still around the 8000 point range.). both 0.06 point. 1 is amount an hour on the table and the recent 1 hrs ++.

FYI
the min rolling program was 30K to earn 0.6% commission. And recent they just change to min 20K to start rolling.
1% comission start from 100K and when you hit 20K rolling. you earn 0.6%. once you hit 100k rolling. you start to earn 1%. Evbn if you roll 90K of 100K. you still earn only 0.6%.
 
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jactoh

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Few days ago. a good session of 5k profit. y'day...

Like I said before. not everyday Sunday. 63k gone in 6 hands. overall still win. but must becareful and learn for my mistake. DO NOT BET AGAINST OTHERS. That was what happened.

back to my 500 starting bet again. :smile:



Hi Long,

can your strategy really works? I mean it sounds unreal, but it's possible to lose 10 hands in a row?

You yourself has lost 6 hands in a row...so do you still believe in the strategy of yours?
 

jactoh

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It was a good CNY eve and 1st CNY session. Made a total of about 12K, I push my luck a little on the 1st day CNY session. stay a longer than usual of 1 hr, but I rest in between games. wait for some pattern and trend then I go in.

Side note -

I think is very difficult to earn point now. I stayed about 1.75hrs. And... got only 0.06point. what the hack? the table min bet is 1k. if the table min bet is 100... how many point you can earn like in 2 hrs? 0.01?


Hi Long,

I also use double up method, playing online casino, live dealers though (playtech system), do you think it's reliable?
 

jactoh

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IC. so you suggested i am blowing the amount that I bet. That my bet 500 or 100 for start and double up to 6th hands is to entertain the forumer here (for you Info. Maxim room min bet is 500).

So you may also suggested the 150KM RM i post here is fake as the only top 2 note is real RM and the rest.... suggest what ever you want.

It happened twice (i hardly check the point i earn. only ;ate;y when redeem point to eat. found my point is getting less. still around the 8000 point range.). both 0.06 point. 1 is amount an hour on the table and the recent 1 hrs ++.

FYI
the min rolling program was 30K to earn 0.6% commission. And recent they just change to min 20K to start rolling.
1% comission start from 100K and when you hit 20K rolling. you earn 0.6%. once you hit 100k rolling. you start to earn 1%. Evbn if you roll 90K of 100K. you still earn only 0.6%.



I believe the amount you mention are real.

I myself have won US$50K within a few days in online casino using double up method. However, lost it all again ...

Losing confident in the double up method...what's your comment?
 

aurvandil

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IC. so you suggested i am blowing the amount that I bet. That my bet 500 or 100 for start and double up to 6th hands is to entertain the forumer here (for you Info. Maxim room min bet is 500).

Only you, God and the casino know the truth. I am simply pointing out that the points you claimed you earned contradicts the amount you said you were betting in the min $1k per hand table.
 

longlicky

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Only you, God and the casino know the truth. I am simply pointing out that the points you claimed you earned contradicts the amount you said you were betting in the min $1k per hand table.

Your kind of human being. I have seen a lot and smell a lot in my life. You need to be HONEST. So the god will save you.

Remember one old Chinese Said-> when you doing it, the heaven is watching.

And that is reason why i was puzzle and question why my winning of 5-6k an hour earned me only 0.06 point? (should be at least 50-80 points as I earned 200-400 points in Genting for the winning amount of 10-12RM in an hour) I am gonna find out from the RWS anyway.

Period.
 
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longlicky

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I believe the amount you mention are real.

I myself have won US$50K within a few days in online casino using double up method. However, lost it all again ...

Losing confident in the double up method...what's your comment?

I believe you can make US50k within a few day via online, cos i tried that before 10 yrs ago for an amount of US20K within couple of day. But like what you mentioned, greed took over and i lost it within couple of hour. Even back then. I already using double up method.

The double up method in my opinion. is not 100% win method. Only... I said again. ONLY when you can obtain a good level of self control. you can reduce the loss ratio (double up method is to reduce loss ration, whe you stretch more hand, your win ratio increase but you loss amount will double up.), and get a win at the end of the day.

E.g. my target is 8-10win : 1loss ratio. That win still give me a winning of 10-20% of the capitol of 31k or 63k. In fact, the 1st 3 win of mine is always (ratio shld around 30 : 1) with 1st 3 hands.


To loss 10 hands in a row? Why not. Thats why my latest additional method is. When I am playing alone, and when someone join in later. I will follow him all the way. But I play against him for 1st 2 hands 1st to see he/her luck 1st. If the fellow can even win u with 1 point and draw with you with 9 point. you better follow, it never goes wrong in 12 yrs of my playing and observation in the gaming hall. I observed those pattern and that is what the result told me (there was once in Genting, there was a guy keep betting against me. my 3rd card reduced to 1. his 3rd card drew a 9 and reduce to 0, and he left the table).
 

jactoh

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I believe you can make US50k within a few day via online, cos i tried that before 10 yrs ago for an amount of US20K within couple of day. But like what you mentioned, greed took over and i lost it within couple of hour. Even back then. I already using double up method.

The double up method in my opinion. is not 100% win method. Only... I said again. ONLY when you can obtain a good level of self control. you can reduce the loss ratio (double up method is to reduce loss ration, whe you stretch more hand, your win ratio increase but you loss amount will double up.), and get a win at the end of the day.

E.g. my target is 8-10win : 1loss ratio. That win still give me a winning of 10-20% of the capitol of 31k or 63k. In fact, the 1st 3 win of mine is always (ratio shld around 30 : 1) with 1st 3 hands.


To loss 10 hands in a row? Why not. Thats why my latest additional method is. When I am playing alone, and when someone join in later. I will follow him all the way. But I play against him for 1st 2 hands 1st to see he/her luck 1st. If the fellow can even win u with 1 point and draw with you with 9 point. you better follow, it never goes wrong in 12 yrs of my playing and observation in the gaming hall. I observed those pattern and that is what the result told me (there was once in Genting, there was a guy keep betting against me. my 3rd card reduced to 1. his 3rd card drew a 9 and reduce to 0, and he left the table).


How to exercise good control?

Go back to the initial bet after, say, lost 6 hands?
 

fish61

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Your kind of human being. I have seen a lot and smell a lot in my life. You need to be HONEST. So the god will save you.

Remember one old Chinese Said-> when you doing it, the heaven is watching.

And that is reason why i was puzzle and question why my winning of 5-6k an hour earned me only 0.06 point? (should be at least 50-80 points as I earned 200-400 points in Genting for the winning amount of 10-12RM in an hour) I am gonna find out from the RWS anyway.

Period.

Bro,is it bcos u check your pts shortly after your game?
Sometime the system take few hours to update your pts.
Go check again.
 

longlicky

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How to exercise good control?

Go back to the initial bet after, say, lost 6 hands?

Hey! dont do that! lost 6 hands in a row. Go home and take a rest and go back some other day to fight.

RWS open 24/7, they only worry you dont go back.

I go to RWS like 2-3 times a week. So far. I had cover 2/5 of my last return of 63K to RWS. Still winning and using their money to win their money.
 

longlicky

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Bro,is it bcos u check your pts shortly after your game?
Sometime the system take few hours to update your pts.
Go check again.

Erhh.. i check like 10-15 mins after the last game. I usually walk aorund the hall just to observe how other play before i go home.

You may be right, but Genting system can update like 5mins after you left the table.
 

jactoh

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Hey! dont do that! lost 6 hands in a row. Go home and take a rest and go back some other day to fight.

RWS open 24/7, they only worry you dont go back.

I go to RWS like 2-3 times a week. So far. I had cover 2/5 of my last return of 63K to RWS. Still winning and using their money to win their money.


I am playing online casino (playtech system)

The bacarat table has real-time dealer.

Is it reliable?
 

jactoh

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Erhh.. i check like 10-15 mins after the last game. I usually walk aorund the hall just to observe how other play before i go home.

You may be right, but Genting system can update like 5mins after you left the table.


Bro Long,

how do you manage to win one round for every 3 hands, sound incredible.

Care to share?
 

justl00king

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Erhh.. i check like 10-15 mins after the last game. I usually walk aorund the hall just to observe how other play before i go home.

You may be right, but Genting system can update like 5mins after you left the table.
Bro,

My gaming normally clocks around 20-30 points per shoe.

But I play quite small bets so guess your bets should be much higher points. :smile:
 

silverfox@

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If you have been playing from (eg, 9pm-1am), by 1.30am if you go and check your points, your points shown on the screen will only show you the points you earned from 12.01mn to 1.30am. points earned earlier will be added to your total but will not be shown how much you earned, because its already considered next day. They close and update points at 12mn.

There was another time, system error, they didn't update my points, so 2 days later, saw that the points were updated into total.
 

longlicky

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Bro Long,

how do you manage to win one round for every 3 hands, sound incredible.

Care to share?

:smile:

Is not a 100% every 3 hands I will win 1 hand. Some time 4hands, some time 5 hands.

Some dont believe the pattern. Some does, and i belong to the latter. The chances to hit according to the pattern is like 80% vs 20%. So... what will you chose?

Different player has their method of playing. When they hit the wall, they will sit back and look at the problem why was it happen that way. Learn from there and "try" not to repeat again. "try" = the greed will keep whispering to you to go all the way, so you need to be really very careful.
 

longlicky

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If you have been playing from (eg, 9pm-1am), by 1.30am if you go and check your points, your points shown on the screen will only show you the points you earned from 12.01mn to 1.30am. points earned earlier will be added to your total but will not be shown how much you earned, because its already considered next day. They close and update points at 12mn.

There was another time, system error, they didn't update my points, so 2 days later, saw that the points were updated into total.

:smile:
I stick to 1hr or max 2hr. and hardly play on midnight. Both occasion shown 0.06. so really no idea what was going on on the table. And I notic lately, when i gave them the card to sign in. They usually keep it till you leave then return to you. Lately, once they swap my card, they return to me at once.
 

jactoh

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:smile:

Is not a 100% every 3 hands I will win 1 hand. Some time 4hands, some time 5 hands.

Some dont believe the pattern. Some does, and i belong to the latter. The chances to hit according to the pattern is like 80% vs 20%. So... what will you chose?

Different player has their method of playing. When they hit the wall, they will sit back and look at the problem why was it happen that way. Learn from there and "try" not to repeat again. "try" = the greed will keep whispering to you to go all the way, so you need to be really very careful.



I remember you saying your capital will only last 6 hands per time you go to casino... double up method.

wow, you really must have a heart of steel to bet at the 5th hand!
 

longlicky

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I remember you saying your capital will only last 6 hands per time you go to casino... double up method.

wow, you really must have a heart of steel to bet at the 5th hand!

Not there yet man. The heart pump 5x or 10x faster when i reach the 5th and 6th hands. And is scary feeling...
 
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