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Chitchat Britain's new aircraft carriers

Agoraphobic

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Lately, military news has been dominated by China, and USA (as usual) and the previous ruler of the seas (Britain) has taken a back seat. Well, not anymore. The UK is now poised to take delivery of two new aircraft carriers. Don't know how they rate, as the standards have been set by the US Nimitz class carriers, which recently have been displaced by the even bigger and more modern Gerald Ford Class. But anyway, the US and Britain are unlike to lock horns with each other. But will utilize the rather overpriced F-35 fighter aircraft for their carrier based attack planes. Singapore should get into the aircraft carrier game as well. She can well-afford it.

Cheers!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...rcraft-carriers-will-make-enemies-think-twic/
Britain's vast new aircraft carriers will make enemies 'think twice' about starting war
• Ben Farmer, DEFENCE CORRESPONDENT
20 May 2016 • 6:17am
Longer than the Houses of Parliament and able to launch up to 108 air strike sorties per day, Britain’s new aircraft carriers will make potential enemies “think twice” about starting future wars, their senior naval officer has said.
The new Queen Elizabeth Class carriers will be become Britain’s most potent conventional weapon and change the way the Royal Navy does business, Capt Simon Petitt said.
The two vast 67,000 tonne vessels, which have cost £6.2bn for the pair, are the largest warships ever built in Britain.
The first of the ships to be ready, HMS Queen Elizabeth, is due to start sea trials next year and is expected to be ready for its first deployment in 2021. Its sister ship, the Prince of Wales, is being built alongside at Rosyth on the Firth of Forth and is expected to be ready around 18 months later.
The vast ships, which are being built by an army of 10,000 workers, have a four acre flight deck and are taller than the Niagara Falls.
Each vessel will have more than 3,000 compartments and as well as a crew of nearly 700, will also be able to accommodate another 900 air crew and Marines.
Capt Petitt, senior naval officer for the two vessels, said they would become the UK’s “most potent strategic weapon bar the continuous at sea deterrent.”
“It is about stopping wars rather than starting them. If someone does want to start a war I think they might think twice if they see one of these ships coming over the horizon.
If someone does want to start a war I think they might think twice if they see one of these ships coming over the horizonCapt Simon Petitt
“We have never seen these ships before. It will change the way the Navy does its business.”
He said he could “certainly see” the vessels used in campaigns against Islamic State in Iraq and Levant (Isil) and expected them to be sent to the Gulf on deployment when ready.
The two warships will become the centrepiece of the Royal Navy, alongside the nuclear deterrent, when they enter service, at the start of 50 year careers, carrying F35B stealth jump jets.
Capt Petitt, senior naval officer for the two ships, said they would add “enormous punch to the capability the Royal Navy has got”.
But he predicted they would also increase British influence overseas.
He said: “I think [Putin] will be looking very carefully at these. Carriers have huge weight of news. It’s no surprise that when Obama announces military stuff, he does it on the deck of an aircraft carrier. They are definitely the modern equivalent of a battleship.
A new generation of aircraft carriers was first considered in the late 1990s, but the two ships have been hit by escalating costs and delays. When the programme was finally given the green light in 2007, the two ships were expected in 2016 and 2018 at a cost of £3.65bn. The programme is now expected to cost the taxpayer £6.2bn.
The vast vessels will hold a crew of 679 sailors, along with space for up to another 900 air crew and Marines.
Naval commanders struggling with low manning levels and a shortage of engineers have previously warned they will struggle to man the fleet when the new carriers arrive. Capt Petitt admitted manning for key engineer posts was “very taught”.
We have never seen these ships before. It will change the way the Navy does its businessCapt Simon Petitt
They are designed to hold up to 36 F35B stealth fighters and four Merlin helicopters, but could also hold Chinooks and Apache gunships. The ships are also expected to play host to United States Marines F35 jets during joint training and missions.
Britain has been without aircraft carriers since the last of the Invincible Class ships were scrapped after cost cutting in the 2010 defence review. Capt Petitt said the Navy “couldn’t wait” to see the return of carriers, which would offer “military options and political choice”.
He said: “If you imagine the Gulf War and the American carriers put aircraft deep into to Iraq to bomb Hussain's bunkers and strategic targets we can do that.
"If you imagine Sierra Leone where we dropped Royal Marines onto the beaches we can do that. If you can imagine Libya where we had apache dealing with the more tactical targets near the beach we can do that as well. So it's all about flexibility all about lots of different missions, that's what the carrier offers.”
 

enterprise2

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Lately, military news has been dominated by China, and USA (as usual) and the previous ruler of the seas (Britain) has taken a back seat. Well, not anymore. The UK is now poised to take delivery of two new aircraft carriers. Don't know how they rate, as the standards have been set by the US Nimitz class carriers, which recently have been displaced by the even bigger and more modern Gerald Ford Class. But anyway, the US and Britain are unlike to lock horns with each other. But will utilize the rather overpriced F-35 fighter aircraft for their carrier based attack planes. Singapore should get into the aircraft carrier game as well. She can well-afford it.

Cheers!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...rcraft-carriers-will-make-enemies-think-twic/
Britain's vast new aircraft carriers will make enemies 'think twice' about starting war
• Ben Farmer, DEFENCE CORRESPONDENT
20 May 2016 • 6:17am
Longer than the Houses of Parliament and able to launch up to 108 air strike sorties per day, Britain’s new aircraft carriers will make potential enemies “think twice” about starting future wars, their senior naval officer has said.
The new Queen Elizabeth Class carriers will be become Britain’s most potent conventional weapon and change the way the Royal Navy does business, Capt Simon Petitt said.
The two vast 67,000 tonne vessels, which have cost £6.2bn for the pair, are the largest warships ever built in Britain.
The first of the ships to be ready, HMS Queen Elizabeth, is due to start sea trials next year and is expected to be ready for its first deployment in 2021. Its sister ship, the Prince of Wales, is being built alongside at Rosyth on the Firth of Forth and is expected to be ready around 18 months later.
The vast ships, which are being built by an army of 10,000 workers, have a four acre flight deck and are taller than the Niagara Falls.
Each vessel will have more than 3,000 compartments and as well as a crew of nearly 700, will also be able to accommodate another 900 air crew and Marines.
Capt Petitt, senior naval officer for the two vessels, said they would become the UK’s “most potent strategic weapon bar the continuous at sea deterrent.”
“It is about stopping wars rather than starting them. If someone does want to start a war I think they might think twice if they see one of these ships coming over the horizon.
If someone does want to start a war I think they might think twice if they see one of these ships coming over the horizonCapt Simon Petitt
“We have never seen these ships before. It will change the way the Navy does its business.”
He said he could “certainly see” the vessels used in campaigns against Islamic State in Iraq and Levant (Isil) and expected them to be sent to the Gulf on deployment when ready.
The two warships will become the centrepiece of the Royal Navy, alongside the nuclear deterrent, when they enter service, at the start of 50 year careers, carrying F35B stealth jump jets.
Capt Petitt, senior naval officer for the two ships, said they would add “enormous punch to the capability the Royal Navy has got”.
But he predicted they would also increase British influence overseas.
He said: “I think [Putin] will be looking very carefully at these. Carriers have huge weight of news. It’s no surprise that when Obama announces military stuff, he does it on the deck of an aircraft carrier. They are definitely the modern equivalent of a battleship.
A new generation of aircraft carriers was first considered in the late 1990s, but the two ships have been hit by escalating costs and delays. When the programme was finally given the green light in 2007, the two ships were expected in 2016 and 2018 at a cost of £3.65bn. The programme is now expected to cost the taxpayer £6.2bn.
The vast vessels will hold a crew of 679 sailors, along with space for up to another 900 air crew and Marines.
Naval commanders struggling with low manning levels and a shortage of engineers have previously warned they will struggle to man the fleet when the new carriers arrive. Capt Petitt admitted manning for key engineer posts was “very taught”.
We have never seen these ships before. It will change the way the Navy does its businessCapt Simon Petitt
They are designed to hold up to 36 F35B stealth fighters and four Merlin helicopters, but could also hold Chinooks and Apache gunships. The ships are also expected to play host to United States Marines F35 jets during joint training and missions.
Britain has been without aircraft carriers since the last of the Invincible Class ships were scrapped after cost cutting in the 2010 defence review. Capt Petitt said the Navy “couldn’t wait” to see the return of carriers, which would offer “military options and political choice”.
He said: “If you imagine the Gulf War and the American carriers put aircraft deep into to Iraq to bomb Hussain's bunkers and strategic targets we can do that.
"If you imagine Sierra Leone where we dropped Royal Marines onto the beaches we can do that. If you can imagine Libya where we had apache dealing with the more tactical targets near the beach we can do that as well. So it's all about flexibility all about lots of different missions, that's what the carrier offers.”

R u nuts! U know how much these toys cost?? Besides they r offensive weapons not defensive. Also the best kept secrets is our helicopter landing ships already can accommodate the helicopters or the Ospreys (If US wants to use)
 

The_Hypocrite

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Uh the poms r delusional...2 small aircraft carriers n want to brag n say others should think twice? Up against ah tiong land n they r fucked..even singkieland need not b afraid...the pmmie navy is a shadow of its former self...talk about bringing up past glories.
 

tanwahtiu

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fucking short arse white trash drug traffickers Pommies have no say in today to go to war with anyone.

One fuck at them of their shamed crime against humanity in slave trades and drug opium traffickers in Asia, and also drugged his own colonized countries with opium for drug money, the short arse Pommies will wag their tails and quietly return back to their small island.

Committing major crimes against humanity over illegal trades in their past are perpetual which the Pommies will have to live with their rest of their lives.

If they want to start a war, just bring up the slave and opium trades of their past will shut their mouth up.




Lately, military news has been dominated by China, and USA (as usual) and the previous ruler of the seas (Britain) has taken a back seat. Well, not anymore. The UK is now poised to take delivery of two new aircraft carriers. Don't know how they rate, as the standards have been set by the US Nimitz class carriers, which recently have been displaced by the even bigger and more modern Gerald Ford Class. But anyway, the US and Britain are unlike to lock horns with each other. But will utilize the rather overpriced F-35 fighter aircraft for their carrier based attack planes. Singapore should get into the aircraft carrier game as well. She can well-afford it.

Cheers!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...rcraft-carriers-will-make-enemies-think-twic/
Britain's vast new aircraft carriers will make enemies 'think twice' about starting war
• Ben Farmer, DEFENCE CORRESPONDENT
20 May 2016 • 6:17am
Longer than the Houses of Parliament and able to launch up to 108 air strike sorties per day, Britain’s new aircraft carriers will make potential enemies “think twice” about starting future wars, their senior naval officer has said.
The new Queen Elizabeth Class carriers will be become Britain’s most potent conventional weapon and change the way the Royal Navy does business, Capt Simon Petitt said.
The two vast 67,000 tonne vessels, which have cost £6.2bn for the pair, are the largest warships ever built in Britain.
The first of the ships to be ready, HMS Queen Elizabeth, is due to start sea trials next year and is expected to be ready for its first deployment in 2021. Its sister ship, the Prince of Wales, is being built alongside at Rosyth on the Firth of Forth and is expected to be ready around 18 months later.
The vast ships, which are being built by an army of 10,000 workers, have a four acre flight deck and are taller than the Niagara Falls.
Each vessel will have more than 3,000 compartments and as well as a crew of nearly 700, will also be able to accommodate another 900 air crew and Marines.
Capt Petitt, senior naval officer for the two vessels, said they would become the UK’s “most potent strategic weapon bar the continuous at sea deterrent.”
“It is about stopping wars rather than starting them. If someone does want to start a war I think they might think twice if they see one of these ships coming over the horizon.
If someone does want to start a war I think they might think twice if they see one of these ships coming over the horizonCapt Simon Petitt
“We have never seen these ships before. It will change the way the Navy does its business.”
He said he could “certainly see” the vessels used in campaigns against Islamic State in Iraq and Levant (Isil) and expected them to be sent to the Gulf on deployment when ready.
The two warships will become the centrepiece of the Royal Navy, alongside the nuclear deterrent, when they enter service, at the start of 50 year careers, carrying F35B stealth jump jets.
Capt Petitt, senior naval officer for the two ships, said they would add “enormous punch to the capability the Royal Navy has got”.
But he predicted they would also increase British influence overseas.
He said: “I think [Putin] will be looking very carefully at these. Carriers have huge weight of news. It’s no surprise that when Obama announces military stuff, he does it on the deck of an aircraft carrier. They are definitely the modern equivalent of a battleship.
A new generation of aircraft carriers was first considered in the late 1990s, but the two ships have been hit by escalating costs and delays. When the programme was finally given the green light in 2007, the two ships were expected in 2016 and 2018 at a cost of £3.65bn. The programme is now expected to cost the taxpayer £6.2bn.
The vast vessels will hold a crew of 679 sailors, along with space for up to another 900 air crew and Marines.
Naval commanders struggling with low manning levels and a shortage of engineers have previously warned they will struggle to man the fleet when the new carriers arrive. Capt Petitt admitted manning for key engineer posts was “very taught”.
We have never seen these ships before. It will change the way the Navy does its businessCapt Simon Petitt
They are designed to hold up to 36 F35B stealth fighters and four Merlin helicopters, but could also hold Chinooks and Apache gunships. The ships are also expected to play host to United States Marines F35 jets during joint training and missions.
Britain has been without aircraft carriers since the last of the Invincible Class ships were scrapped after cost cutting in the 2010 defence review. Capt Petitt said the Navy “couldn’t wait” to see the return of carriers, which would offer “military options and political choice”.
He said: “If you imagine the Gulf War and the American carriers put aircraft deep into to Iraq to bomb Hussain's bunkers and strategic targets we can do that.
"If you imagine Sierra Leone where we dropped Royal Marines onto the beaches we can do that. If you can imagine Libya where we had apache dealing with the more tactical targets near the beach we can do that as well. So it's all about flexibility all about lots of different missions, that's what the carrier offers.”
 

Debonerman

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If Sir Stamford had arrived with one of those in 1819 I would be living on cheap landed property and holding a JoSing passport.
 

tun_dr_m

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No matter what silly ships the UK n US made they are weak and outdated in capabilities. They are perfect targets. Their countries are set to be nuked to dust in near future.
 

JohnTan

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The ships are not the threat. It's the aircraft that they carry that are the real threat. So the issue is, how deadly are the British aircraft?

Are there any cheap but very effective SAM missile batteries that could take out the aircraft? Or how about a wicked anti-ship missile that could sink the carrier?

It's the ancient question all over again of who's more deadly; the armoured knight or the humble archer/crossbowman?
 

tanwahtiu

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throw 3 A-bombs into the small island English and talk later. Angmoh are cowards boh lum par.



The ships are not the threat. It's the aircraft that they carry that are the real threat. So the issue is, how deadly are the British aircraft?

Are there any cheap but very effective SAM missile batteries that could take out the aircraft? Or how about a wicked anti-ship missile that could sink the carrier?

It's the ancient question all over again of who's more deadly; the armoured knight or the humble archer/crossbowman?
 
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