breaking news - trains delayed due to power outage

[eatshitndie]

1st thing 1st.

how much the management is paid compared to smrt?

the pay is so bloated in both management and union ranks that they have to keep raising fares to pay themselves. for a bloated management team, it's easily in the millions per month just for base pay alone without considering benefits and other perks.

 

[eatshitndie]

The BART system was started in 1972 which is much older than the Spore MRT system. I have ridden on the BART trains in the 80's & what I remember was that it was comfortable with soft seats & not the hard seats in Spore's MRT. I actually got to sit because it was not packed like like what you have in Spore.

The PAP should be ashamed that Sporeans have to pay so much for a system that keeps breaking down.

you miss the forest for the trees. considering that bart has over 40 years of experienced engineering staff in its employ, it cannot figure out what's knocking out over 80 train cars in a week. if it cannot find the root cause and fix the problem, the untraceable fault will continue to knock out more train cars. it remains an unsolved mystery. can't always fault smrt for having breakdowns. at least they get things fixed. over here with the best, oldest and most experienced engineers, we cannot figure wtf is the root cause. get the big picture?

 

[eatshitndie]

ace commuter train between stockton and san jose just derailed near niles canyon in fremont, with some cars submerged in a running creek. 14 passengers seriously injured. many with minor injuries. no fatality. more news tomorrow.

 

[johnny333]

.... can't always fault smrt for having breakdowns. at least they get things fixed. over here with the best, oldest and most experienced engineers, we cannot figure wtf is the root cause. get the big picture?

You are missing my point, the BART system is an old system, while Spores SMRT system is a brand new system & yet it has so many problems.

The impact is also much worse in Spore because the majority of people rely on public transport because of the PAP policy of making car ownership expensive.

 

[eatshitndie]

You are missing my point, the BART system is an old system, while Spores SMRT system is a brand new system & yet it has so many problems.

The impact is also much worse in Spore because the majority of people rely on public transport because of the PAP policy of making car ownership expensive.

it's extremely difficult to troubleshoot electrical surges and other high voltage 3rd rail issues during a downpour or weather-related event, whether the system is new or old. the hk mrt had a major outage in 2014 due to electrical problems, and they haven't found the root cause yet.

 

[eatshitndie]

ace commuter train between stockton and san jose just derailed near niles canyon in fremont, with some cars submerged in a running creek. 14 passengers seriously injured. many with minor injuries. no fatality. more news tomorrow.

9 injured, not 14. 2 train cars on muddy banks and 1 car partially submerged in creek. crews are on site to remove wreckage and debris. apparently mudslides onto tracks caused the derailment.

correction: train struck a tree that fell onto the track at niles canyon.

 

[johnny333]

it's extremely difficult to troubleshoot electrical surges and other high voltage 3rd rail issues during a downpour or weather-related event, whether the system is new or old. the hk mrt had a major outage in 2014 due to electrical problems, and they haven't found the root cause yet.

Public transport is more critical in Spore than the USA which has more alternatives to get around. So you would think that the Spore authorities would put more effort in ensuring that our system works.

Hong Kong another city state has shown that it is possible to run an efficient MRT system. They put more resources into their MTR system & take a more preemptive approach by doing more preventive maintenance. In Spore they put Ho Ching's friend in charge. A sales person who is clueless about running a MRT system. What this Ms. Saw did was to ignore maintenance & focused on getting an increase of advertisement revenue i.e. thinking as a sales person & not a technical person.

Now they have some sort of paper scholar in charge instead of a hands on techie guy. I doubt things will improve.

There is also the issue of quality of workmanship. If you are going to use 3rd world labor you have to make sure that a project has proper supervision. Nowadays with so many overpaid bureaucrats I doubt that there are enough of these competent supervisors.
Experienced supervisors have probably been replaced by cheaper foreigners who are not as qualified.

 

[eatshitndie]

Public transport is more critical in Spore than the USA which has more alternatives to get around. So you would think that the Spore authorities would put more effort in ensuring that our system works.

Hong Kong another city state has shown that it is possible to run an efficient MRT system. They put more resources into their MTR system & take a more preemptive approach by doing more preventive maintenance. In Spore they put Ho Ching's friend in charge. A sales person who is clueless about running a MRT system. What this Ms. Saw did was to ignore maintenance & focused on getting an increase of advertisement revenue i.e. thinking as a sales person & not a technical person.

Now they have some sort of paper scholar in charge instead of a hands on techie guy. I doubt things will improve.

There is also the issue of quality of workmanship. If you are going to use 3rd world labor you have to make sure that a project has proper supervision. Nowadays with so many overpaid bureaucrats I doubt that there are enough of these competent supervisors.
Experienced supervisors have probably been replaced by cheaper foreigners who are not as qualified.

don't talk cock lah. hk mtr is still struggling with finding the root cause of why their system went into major outage for hours not too long ago.

http://www.scmp.com/article/430290/10000-held-mtr-rush-hour-breakdown

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...ed-second-glitch-24-hours-forces-line-closure

 

[eatshitndie]

breaking news. amtrak train derails in west kansas and dozens are injured. national media not reporting this as this is just one of too many weekly occurrences. it has becum very normal for derailments and breakdowns, unlike the superb system in sg.

 

[johnny333]

don't talk cock lah. hk mtr is still struggling with finding the root cause of why their system went into major outage for hours not too long ago.

http://www.scmp.com/article/430290/10000-held-mtr-rush-hour-breakdown

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...ed-second-glitch-24-hours-forces-line-closure

Many believe that HK has one of the most efficient MRT system. Many Sporeans who have visited HK speak in glowing praise of the MTR system. Have used the MTR myself & I found it more efficient than Spore's MRT.

At least in HK there is no attempt to cover up problems with the MTR system. According to the the article ln http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...ed-second-glitch-24-hours-forces-line-closure

"Signal problems can usually be fixed within 10 minutes according to our past experience. But this time, when fixing it, we found that a longer time was needed," said MTR east region's head of operations Francis Li Shing-kee. He apologised to passengers who had been affected.

They know the cause of the problem. Unlike in the case of the problems in Spore where breakdowns are very common, especially on the brand new lines. Compared to the case in HK, where the router which failed has never failed in 11 years

The router had never failed in the 11 years the network system had been in use and there would be an investigation into what went wrong, said MTR infrastructure general manager Terry Wong Wing-kin.

If you google you will find plenty of praise for the HK system. I'll just include the one by Frommer because many people have used their travel guide books.

http://www.frommers.com/slideshows/818699-the-world-s-best-subways-10-top-cities#slide818709

Hong Kong, China
Clean, efficient, and almost sterile in its appearance, Hong Kong's Mass Transit Railway (MTR) should be emulated by more cities. Passengers wait in orderly lines and approach glass-barrier screens, meaning you don't have to worry about pushing or shoving. The signs (written in Chinese and English) cater to most users, and the color-coded lines and illuminated routes are easy to decipher. As for the noise, you'll hear more cell-phone ringtones than anything else.

Ticket Price: Prices vary according to the distance and destination (from HK$4 to HK$26, or 50¢ to $3.30), so consider getting a rechargeable Octopus card. The Airport Express Travel Pass for HK$300 ($38.60) includes two Airport Express one-way trips and three days of unlimited MTR travel. Of this, HK$50 ($6.40) is refundable after the initial three days, or you can put the balance toward more subway trips.

More Information: www.mtr.com.hk

Read more: http://www.frommers.com/slideshows/...bways-10-top-cities#slide818709#ixzz42y79F3pQ

 

[eatshitndie]

entire d.c. metro system is shut down for emergency inspection.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/metro-shutdown--372144902.html

"Hundreds of thousands of commuters, visitors and residents of Washington, D.C., are searching for travel alternatives Wednesday after the entire D.C. Metrorail system was shutdown for an emergency safety inspection.
Metro General Manager Paul Wiedefeld took the unprecedented step of shutting down the entire system at midnight and keeping it closed until 5 a.m. Thursday so crews could check about 600 underground jumper cables."

 

[eatshitndie]

mysterious power surge results in dozens of bart cars experiencing problems with propulsion system. system wide delays expected today.

http://abc7news.com/traffic/major-bart-delays-due-to-equipment-problem/1248696/

CONCORD, Calif. -- A service disruption between BART's North Concord/Martinez and Pittsburg/Bay Point stations first reported this morning is expected to cause system-wide delays into the night, according to the agency.

BART officials reported on Twitter at 10:14 a.m. that service had come to a halt between the two Contra Costa County stations because of an equipment problem on the tracks. As of 2:30 p.m., BART officials said service there remains suspended.

BART's transit partners have contributed bus shuttles running between the stations, but passengers should anticipate crowded buses and additional travel time, BART officials said.

BART officials said the line, which runs from Pittsburg/Bay Point to San Francisco International Airport, will continue experiencing delays tonight and riders are encouraged to get to stations early because trains will be shorter and less frequent.

Less significant delays are also expected on other lines in the system, according to BART.

BART officials said the disruption was brought on by an electrical surge on the tracks that affected the motors of two dozen cars. The cars remain offline. BART says the electrical surge does not pose a danger to passengers.

 

[eatshitndie]

bart woes worsen.....as engineers struggle to find the root cause of a mysterious power surge that knocks out a part of the motor assembly that powers each car. out of desperation, bart hires outside experts to investigate and do rca, and results and permanent remedies will not be known until the full study is completed. a late discovery by experts indicates mysterious surges happen intermittently and in extremely short durations, in microseconds. due to high voltage surges in microseconds, pinpointing the root cause and precise location of the cause are painstaking tasks with no guarantee nor certainty of a fix. meanwhile, the depots are replacing parts of the motor just to get trains back on the tracks. bay area riders would be thankful if smrt were to run bart.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2016/03/18/bart-woes-worsen-problems-in-transbay-tube/

 

[eatshitndie]

officials and engineers still struggle to solve the sudden surge mystery and have to employ "tiger team" experts from the industry to pinpoint the root cause. it has been weeks after weeks of disappointment and frustrations. looks like they are trying to emulate the success of the smrt by throwing bodies at the problem. :p

http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Bridge-buses-give-way-to-shuttle-trains-as-7029892.php