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Auto execs are coming clean: EVs aren't working

Willamshakespear

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Chicon land EV will take over the world...

BYD is launching its next-gen Blade EV battery soon with more range and even lower cost
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BYD is expected to launch its next-gen Blade EV battery later this year. The battery will promote more range at an even lower cost. Will the new battery be BYD’s X-factor in its “liberation battle” over gas-powered vehicles?

BYD to launch new Blade EV battery in 2024
FinDreams, BYD’s battery unit, launched the first-generation Blade battery in 2020, revolutionizing the industry.

BYD’s Blade batteries power Tesla, Ford, Kia, Hyundai, Toyota, and other popular electric vehicles from major automakers. The batteries are a major reason behind BYD’s success.

The batteries are installed in most BYD models, such as the low-cost Seagull, Dolphin electric hatch, and Atto 3 SUV.

By using lithium-iron-phosphate as the cathode material, BYD can make the batteries much cheaper. Not only that, but they also offer competitive power density compared to NCM batteries.

With a “Blade-like” design, the battery is built for maximum safety while offering “ultra-long range and ultra-long lifespan.” The longer, flatter design saves space and weight for better efficiency.

BYD is set to change the game again with its next-generation Blade EV battery. BYD’s CEO, Wang Chuanfu, said the new battery will be even smaller and lighter with the same endurance during a recent financial meeting, according to a report by Fast Technology.

BYD-Seagull-EV
BYD Dolphin Mini (Seagull) testing in Brazil (Source: BYD)
BYD’s leader added that it will also reduce power consumption per 100 km, which will likely promote more range and performance.

The company’s latest Blade batteries have an energy density of up to 150Wh/kg. BYD’s next-gen EV battery is expected to reach upwards of 190Wh/kg.

This could enable fully electric models to exceed 621 miles (1,000 km) CLTC range, which would be the highest among LFP batteries. The report claims BYD will release the new battery as soon as August 2024.

BYD-next-gen-EV-battery
BYD Dolphin (left) and Atto 3 (right) Source: BYD
Electrek’s Take
After declaring a “liberation battle” on gas-powered cars earlier this year, BYD has launched a series of lower-priced EVs, undercutting rivals.

BYD’s cheapest EV, the new Seagull, starts at just $9,700 (69,800 yuan). And it’s already creating a stir among legacy automakers. Ford’s CEO Jim Farley called the low-cost EV “pretty damn good,” as he warned rivals.

BYD claims new energy vehicles have entered “the knockout round” over gas-powered cars with superior tech and comparable prices. The comments come with its next-gen DM-i (PHEV) system due out soon, which is expected to enable nearly 1,200 miles (2,000 km) CLTC range.

With new EVs rolling out in China, BYD sees joint venture brands’ market share falling from around 40% to 10% over the next three to five years.

The leading Chinese EV maker is also quickly expanding overseas, with plans to sell one million vehicles overseas in 2025, up from 240,000 last year.

Source: CarNewsChina, Fast Technology

At least Build Your Dreams - BYD is moving in the needed right direction of Tech evolution. However, may it NOT make the mistakes that other China entrepreneurs had made - mass manufacturing of low tech cars, leaving the consumers with such. A car is NOT a low cost Handphone, but a significant costly investment based upon needs.

May it take months if not years to test out such tech before selling any such car. No one would want to spend life savings on a car with tech that would go obsolete within years, or worse - malfunction or burn out. It should be tested the way medicines are put on trial before it is allowed to be sold to the public.

One of the failures of EV cars is the LCD screen. Driving on the road NEEDS 100% FOCUS. Even just a lapse of one second, to look at the LCD screen to make adjustments to the car WILL cause accidents.

The 1st EV car unfortunately came with such when JUST the battery tech alone would had gained market share - a tech leap by itself, but sadly, Elon Musk wanted to challenge Apple, threw in an IPhone in the car, copy & pasted by China entrepreneurs, & now, they are stuck with unsold & even difficulty to re sale such cars to others.....
 

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At least Build Your Dreams - BYD is moving in the needed right direction of Tech evolution. However, may it NOT make the mistakes that other China entrepreneurs had made - mass manufacturing of low tech cars, leaving the consumers with such. A car is NOT a low cost Handphone, but a significant costly investment based upon needs.

May it take months if not years to test out such tech before selling any such car. No one would want to spend life savings on a car with tech that would go obsolete within years, or worse - malfunction or burn out. It should be tested the way medicines are put on trial before it is allowed to be sold to the public.

One of the failures of EV cars is the LCD screen. Driving on the road NEEDS 100% FOCUS. Even just a lapse of one second, to look at the LCD screen to make adjustments to the car WILL cause accidents.

The 1st EV car unfortunately came with such when JUST the battery tech alone would had gained market share - a tech leap by itself, but sadly, Elon Musk wanted to challenge Apple, threw in an IPhone in the car, copy & pasted by China entrepreneurs, & now, they are stuck with unsold & even difficulty to re sale such cars to others.....
Tat is why the EU has or started to mandate physical buttons for controls instead of everything being touch screens because touch screens not safe. As it's distracting n causes lapse in concentration due too too many steps etc...n byd physical controls are much better than tesla as tesla wants to keep it cheap by 100% touch screen
 

syed putra

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Chicon land EV will take over the world...

BYD is launching its next-gen Blade EV battery soon with more range and even lower cost
Avatar for Peter Johnson
BYD is expected to launch its next-gen Blade EV battery later this year. The battery will promote more range at an even lower cost. Will the new battery be BYD’s X-factor in its “liberation battle” over gas-powered vehicles?

BYD to launch new Blade EV battery in 2024
FinDreams, BYD’s battery unit, launched the first-generation Blade battery in 2020, revolutionizing the industry.

BYD’s Blade batteries power Tesla, Ford, Kia, Hyundai, Toyota, and other popular electric vehicles from major automakers. The batteries are a major reason behind BYD’s success.

The batteries are installed in most BYD models, such as the low-cost Seagull, Dolphin electric hatch, and Atto 3 SUV.

By using lithium-iron-phosphate as the cathode material, BYD can make the batteries much cheaper. Not only that, but they also offer competitive power density compared to NCM batteries.

With a “Blade-like” design, the battery is built for maximum safety while offering “ultra-long range and ultra-long lifespan.” The longer, flatter design saves space and weight for better efficiency.

BYD is set to change the game again with its next-generation Blade EV battery. BYD’s CEO, Wang Chuanfu, said the new battery will be even smaller and lighter with the same endurance during a recent financial meeting, according to a report by Fast Technology.

BYD-Seagull-EV
BYD Dolphin Mini (Seagull) testing in Brazil (Source: BYD)
BYD’s leader added that it will also reduce power consumption per 100 km, which will likely promote more range and performance.

The company’s latest Blade batteries have an energy density of up to 150Wh/kg. BYD’s next-gen EV battery is expected to reach upwards of 190Wh/kg.

This could enable fully electric models to exceed 621 miles (1,000 km) CLTC range, which would be the highest among LFP batteries. The report claims BYD will release the new battery as soon as August 2024.

BYD-next-gen-EV-battery
BYD Dolphin (left) and Atto 3 (right) Source: BYD
Electrek’s Take
After declaring a “liberation battle” on gas-powered cars earlier this year, BYD has launched a series of lower-priced EVs, undercutting rivals.

BYD’s cheapest EV, the new Seagull, starts at just $9,700 (69,800 yuan). And it’s already creating a stir among legacy automakers. Ford’s CEO Jim Farley called the low-cost EV “pretty damn good,” as he warned rivals.

BYD claims new energy vehicles have entered “the knockout round” over gas-powered cars with superior tech and comparable prices. The comments come with its next-gen DM-i (PHEV) system due out soon, which is expected to enable nearly 1,200 miles (2,000 km) CLTC range.

With new EVs rolling out in China, BYD sees joint venture brands’ market share falling from around 40% to 10% over the next three to five years.

The leading Chinese EV maker is also quickly expanding overseas, with plans to sell one million vehicles overseas in 2025, up from 240,000 last year.

Source: CarNewsChina, Fast Technology
Blade batteries maybe superceded by even newer tech batteries soon. And if that gap is big, your EV if you had bought one, will depreciate like nuts.
I will stick to diesel
 

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Chicon land EV will take over the world...

BYD is launching its next-gen Blade EV battery soon with more range and even lower cost
Avatar for Peter Johnson
BYD is expected to launch its next-gen Blade EV battery later this year. The battery will promote more range at an even lower cost. Will the new battery be BYD’s X-factor in its “liberation battle” over gas-powered vehicles?

BYD to launch new Blade EV battery in 2024
FinDreams, BYD’s battery unit, launched the first-generation Blade battery in 2020, revolutionizing the industry.

BYD’s Blade batteries power Tesla, Ford, Kia, Hyundai, Toyota, and other popular electric vehicles from major automakers. The batteries are a major reason behind BYD’s success.

The batteries are installed in most BYD models, such as the low-cost Seagull, Dolphin electric hatch, and Atto 3 SUV.

By using lithium-iron-phosphate as the cathode material, BYD can make the batteries much cheaper. Not only that, but they also offer competitive power density compared to NCM batteries.

With a “Blade-like” design, the battery is built for maximum safety while offering “ultra-long range and ultra-long lifespan.” The longer, flatter design saves space and weight for better efficiency.

BYD is set to change the game again with its next-generation Blade EV battery. BYD’s CEO, Wang Chuanfu, said the new battery will be even smaller and lighter with the same endurance during a recent financial meeting, according to a report by Fast Technology.

BYD-Seagull-EV
BYD Dolphin Mini (Seagull) testing in Brazil (Source: BYD)
BYD’s leader added that it will also reduce power consumption per 100 km, which will likely promote more range and performance.

The company’s latest Blade batteries have an energy density of up to 150Wh/kg. BYD’s next-gen EV battery is expected to reach upwards of 190Wh/kg.

This could enable fully electric models to exceed 621 miles (1,000 km) CLTC range, which would be the highest among LFP batteries. The report claims BYD will release the new battery as soon as August 2024.

BYD-next-gen-EV-battery
BYD Dolphin (left) and Atto 3 (right) Source: BYD
Electrek’s Take
After declaring a “liberation battle” on gas-powered cars earlier this year, BYD has launched a series of lower-priced EVs, undercutting rivals.

BYD’s cheapest EV, the new Seagull, starts at just $9,700 (69,800 yuan). And it’s already creating a stir among legacy automakers. Ford’s CEO Jim Farley called the low-cost EV “pretty damn good,” as he warned rivals.

BYD claims new energy vehicles have entered “the knockout round” over gas-powered cars with superior tech and comparable prices. The comments come with its next-gen DM-i (PHEV) system due out soon, which is expected to enable nearly 1,200 miles (2,000 km) CLTC range.

With new EVs rolling out in China, BYD sees joint venture brands’ market share falling from around 40% to 10% over the next three to five years.

The leading Chinese EV maker is also quickly expanding overseas, with plans to sell one million vehicles overseas in 2025, up from 240,000 last year.

Source: CarNewsChina, Fast Technology

Americunt and Euro no sanction, fine BYD for anti competition? Make byd battery division and car division independent.
 

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Tat is why the EU has or started to mandate physical buttons for controls instead of everything being touch screens because touch screens not safe. As it's distracting n causes lapse in concentration due too too many steps etc...n byd physical controls are much better than tesla as tesla wants to keep it cheap by 100% touch screen

Again, it is left to EU - a conscionable organization of European nations led by present day Germany, whom saw Europe's Civilization rise & fall, determined now NOT to allow another fall to its civilization - to speak out, to discuss & find solutions to save lives, evolve & progress



With an IPhone, a consumer is NOT driving & most Nations had banned usage of handphones while driving a HEAVY MACHINE - even a car weighs 1 tonne & Humans weigh an average of only 100 kilos - as it is a DISTRACTION that caused the loss of NOT just one's life, but other innocent lives as well, as often, one needs to FOCUS on the roads, even if empty roads as there is NO telling of WHAT'S AHEAD.

With the IPhone while not driving & as long as NOT walking across dangerous streets but sitting in a cafe, one has ALL the time to type & scroll thru pages to get the info one needs & cause NO danger to anyone.

The issue with EV cars touch screen panel is that one needs to touch on an icon, (1 second), then scroll thru numerous pages & options ( 2 seconds), then touch the appropriate icon to select the adjustments to the car ( 2 seconds). Add it up, it is 5 seconds if one is converse with the icons, & more if one forgets to memorize the 200 page manual to operate the car, or press the wrong icons.

Total it up, it is an average at the least 5 seconds. MANY, many issues will happen on the road even within just 1 second - turns in roadways, closeness to another car, tailgating, unaware pedestrian or wildlife crossing the streets, etc. And thus, accidents happen....

If anyone presumes that 5 seconds is relatively fast, just perform a simple & safe experiment - walk across a shopping centre floor with EYES CLOSED & count after me - one thousand, two thousand, three thousand, etc & then find out HOW MANY other shoppers. shops, etc you would have bumped into.....

With simple knobs & buttons, a driver needs not scroll thru entire pages of a touch screen - just simply press the often used knobs WITHOUT even looking at such knobs. Car operations were meant to be simple, but sadly, entrepreneurs thru foolish ideologies of HI TECHNESS, replaced such with DANGEROUS touch screens....
 
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Again, it is left to EU - a conscionable organization of European nations led by present day Germany, whom saw Europe's rise & fall, determined now NOT to allow another fall - to speak out, to discuss & find solutions to save lives, evolve & progress



With an IPhone, a consumer is NOT driving & most Nations had banned usage of handphones while driving a HEAVY MACHINE - even a car weighs 1 tonne & Humans weigh an average of only 100 kilos - as it is a DISTRACTION that caused the loss of NOT just one's life, but other innocent lives as well, as often, one needs to FOCUS on the roads, even if empty roads as there is NO telling of WHAT'S AHEAD.

With the IPhone while not driving & as long as NOT walking across dangerous streets but sitting in a cafe, one has ALL the time to type & scroll thru pages to get the info one needs & cause NO danger to anyone.

The issue with EV cars touch screen panel is that one needs to touch on an icon, (1 second), then scroll thru numerous pages & options ( 2 seconds), then touch the appropriate icon to select the adjustments to the car ( 2 seconds). Add it up, it is 5 seconds if one is converse with the icons, & more if one forgets to memorize the 200 page manual to operate the car, or press the wrong icons.

Total it up, it is an average at the least 5 seconds. MANY, many issues will happen on the road even within just 1 second - closeness to another car, tailgating, unaware pedestrian or wildlife crossing the streets, etc. And thus, accidents happen....

With simple knobs & buttons, a driver needs not scroll thru entire pages of a touch screen - just simply press the often used knobs WITHOUT even looking at such knobs. Car operations were meant to be simple, but sadly, entrepreneurs thru foolish ideologies of HI TECHNESS, replaced such with DANGEROUS touch screens....

EU led by a dumb, woke country who depended 100% on russian gas, but chose to close all nuclear plants.

Whose racist population but want to act generous accepting migrants , who want go green but attack Tesla giga factory.

Finito
 

syed putra

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Again, it is left to EU - a conscionable organization of European nations led by present day Germany, whom saw Europe's Civilization rise & fall, determined now NOT to allow another fall to its civilization - to speak out, to discuss & find solutions to save lives, evolve & progress



With an IPhone, a consumer is NOT driving & most Nations had banned usage of handphones while driving a HEAVY MACHINE - even a car weighs 1 tonne & Humans weigh an average of only 100 kilos - as it is a DISTRACTION that caused the loss of NOT just one's life, but other innocent lives as well, as often, one needs to FOCUS on the roads, even if empty roads as there is NO telling of WHAT'S AHEAD.

With the IPhone while not driving & as long as NOT walking across dangerous streets but sitting in a cafe, one has ALL the time to type & scroll thru pages to get the info one needs & cause NO danger to anyone.

The issue with EV cars touch screen panel is that one needs to touch on an icon, (1 second), then scroll thru numerous pages & options ( 2 seconds), then touch the appropriate icon to select the adjustments to the car ( 2 seconds). Add it up, it is 5 seconds if one is converse with the icons, & more if one forgets to memorize the 200 page manual to operate the car, or press the wrong icons.

Total it up, it is an average at the least 5 seconds. MANY, many issues will happen on the road even within just 1 second - turns in roadways, closeness to another car, tailgating, unaware pedestrian or wildlife crossing the streets, etc. And thus, accidents happen....

If anyone presumes that 5 seconds is relatively fast, just perform a simple & safe experiment - walk across a shopping centre floor with EYES CLOSED & count after me - one thousand, two thousand, three thousand, etc & then find out HOW MANY other shoppers. shops, etc you would have bumped into.....

With simple knobs & buttons, a driver needs not scroll thru entire pages of a touch screen - just simply press the often used knobs WITHOUT even looking at such knobs. Car operations were meant to be simple, but sadly, entrepreneurs thru foolish ideologies of HI TECHNESS, replaced such with DANGEROUS touch screens....
I believe you can use voice command instead of scrolling. But if driving with passengers, voice command can be very annoying.
 

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I believe you can use voice command instead of scrolling. But if driving with passengers, voice command can be very annoying.

annoyance is the least concern. There are inherent dangers with voice commands as such tech is NOT fully developed yet.

It will work on an iphone, but an iphone is NOT a car.

Individual voice recognition module:-

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Most buy a car as a family car, whom parents, loved ones & friends may use it from time to time. The car will only recognize the driver's voice & thus one will need to go to the voice recognition module to register one's voice, eg:-"This is Tom. The quick brown fox jumps over the lazy dog". & for everyone else whom may drive the car.

2. Should there be any change in the pitch or tonal quality of one's voice, such sore throat, agitated, stress, etc, the module will NOT recognize one's voice & then one will have to switch to manual control - take eyes off the road, touch an icon on the LCD display, scroll thru the pages, etc, etc.


Universal voice recognition module:-

1.
Anyone can give command to the module. However, there is NO STANDARDIZATION of commands yet:- some modules are different in different cars, eg - "start the car', while other module - car start, car battery start, etc, etc.

2. As anyone can give commands to the module, even passengers can do such & there's where the danger is. Should the car be travelling at hi speeds & someone shouts 'emergency car shut down now'..........not just one life may be harmed, but the lives of surrounding car & truck drivers as well....
 

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Again, it is left to EU - a conscionable organization of European nations led by present day Germany, whom saw Europe's Civilization rise & fall, determined now NOT to allow another fall to its civilization - to speak out, to discuss & find solutions to save lives, evolve & progress



With an IPhone, a consumer is NOT driving & most Nations had banned usage of handphones while driving a HEAVY MACHINE - even a car weighs 1 tonne & Humans weigh an average of only 100 kilos - as it is a DISTRACTION that caused the loss of NOT just one's life, but other innocent lives as well, as often, one needs to FOCUS on the roads, even if empty roads as there is NO telling of WHAT'S AHEAD.

With the IPhone while not driving & as long as NOT walking across dangerous streets but sitting in a cafe, one has ALL the time to type & scroll thru pages to get the info one needs & cause NO danger to anyone.

The issue with EV cars touch screen panel is that one needs to touch on an icon, (1 second), then scroll thru numerous pages & options ( 2 seconds), then touch the appropriate icon to select the adjustments to the car ( 2 seconds). Add it up, it is 5 seconds if one is converse with the icons, & more if one forgets to memorize the 200 page manual to operate the car, or press the wrong icons.

Total it up, it is an average at the least 5 seconds. MANY, many issues will happen on the road even within just 1 second - turns in roadways, closeness to another car, tailgating, unaware pedestrian or wildlife crossing the streets, etc. And thus, accidents happen....

If anyone presumes that 5 seconds is relatively fast, just perform a simple & safe experiment - walk across a shopping centre floor with EYES CLOSED & count after me - one thousand, two thousand, three thousand, etc & then find out HOW MANY other shoppers. shops, etc you would have bumped into.....

With simple knobs & buttons, a driver needs not scroll thru entire pages of a touch screen - just simply press the often used knobs WITHOUT even looking at such knobs. Car operations were meant to be simple, but sadly, entrepreneurs thru foolish ideologies of HI TECHNESS, replaced such with DANGEROUS touch screens....
It's a matter of safety that touch screens are more distracting than physical buttons..
 
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