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any free parking at temples during religious festivals?

bryanlim1972

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a friend called to report illegal parking at his estate near a mosque and was told by LTA officer they cannot issue summons to cars parked illegally now as "they have to be sensitive" to the parking issue (presumably because of fasting month)

i've heard from some christian friends LTA will close one eye for xmas services.

but is there such a thing for chinese religious occasions?
 
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Narong Wongwan

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Have la same same you see temple festival the cars also anyhow park outside/near temples.
What about those in opposition terrorities?
 

wikiphile

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Have la same same you see temple festival the cars also anyhow park outside/near temples.
What about those in opposition terrorities?

same same for oppo or PAP territory, mata and LTA will open and close one eye to mosques and temples. Churches not a problem, they have ample parking spaces and many different sessions over the weekend
 

zeddy

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Yes, Enforcement officers will close one eye.. Last time used to drive my late Ah Ma to a temple in Tampines..Parked my car at the side of the road besides the temple.. Other people would also parked their cars there.. While waiting for her to come out, I would smoke inside the car.. Usually Mat Cisco enforcement chaps would close one eye and just scooted off from the area with their Cisco scooters.. But there was this keling farker who was on the ball.. I believed he was a Malaysian Keling.. Tried to saman a car there, but was fucked upside down by one of the Uncle who was a helper at that temple.. Keling farker called for assistance from colleagues.. 2 Mat Cisco chaps came down again in their scooters and apologized to the driver of the car.. They then told the Keling not to saman the car.. Keling chap surprised by this.. All 3 of them later later ciao from the area..
 

hawker

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same same for oppo or PAP territory, mata and LTA will open and close one eye to mosques and temples. Churches not a problem, they have ample parking spaces and many different sessions over the weekend

Church in Hougang St 22. They seemed to have some sort of arrangement with LTA that allows them to park on the road outside even that road have double yellow lines. This is the practice even when this area is under PAP. Now this area is under WP, same practice is still allowed.
 

Cestbon

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Really hate this from 2 lane become one lane. One lane become half lane.
LTA/TP should do something. Is drag for too long. Normally will have parking lot that need to walk 200~500m away. Just that all too lazy cause inconvenient to others .
 
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wikiphile

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Church in Hougang St 22. They seemed to have some sort of arrangement with LTA that allows them to park on the road outside even that road have double yellow lines. This is the practice even when this area is under PAP. Now this area is under WP, same practice is still allowed.

I see a lot of cars there on Sat/Sun. The carpark beside it is not even adequate for the churchgoers. Another example would be the mosque at the cross junction in front
 

Agoraphobic

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a friend called to report illegal parking at his estate near a mosque and was told by LTA officer they cannot issue summons to cars parked illegally now as "they have to be sensitive" to the parking issue (presumably because of fasting month)

i've heard from some christian friends LTA will close one eye for xmas services.

but is there such a thing for chinese religious occasions?

I've noticed this too. And if the reason is "sensitive" then I wonder if this is more important than road safety consideration? If we live in a secular state, then religious zealots must abide by secular laws. I noticed cars parked bumper-to-bumper along where double-yellow lines are drawn leaving moving traffic to move along the right lane, unable to view people crossing the road; it's an accident waiting to happen - just because some people want to pray to their "God" or "Allah." If this benevolent deity were to have his/her say, I believe the statement would be give priority to human safety.

Cheers!
 

laksaboy

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a friend called to report illegal parking at his estate near a mosque and was told by LTA officer they cannot issue summons to cars parked illegally now as "they have to be sensitive" to the parking issue (presumably because of fasting month)

Bollocks. Parking is free outside all mosques every Friday, and not just on the month of Ramadan. Double yellow lines? Apa double yellow lines? :rolleyes:

'Being sensitive' is just a euphemism for being kiasi and humji, particularly when it involves Muslims/Islam. You see, the PAP govt does not want to unravel the artificially constructed racial/religious harmony societal narrative. In order to preserve the 'peace'. it bends over backwards to accommodate, appease and placate them.
 

sleaguepunter

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I see a lot of cars there on Sat/Sun. The carpark beside it is not even adequate for the churchgoers. Another example would be the mosque at the cross junction in front

This one got a flimsy excuse. Last time on Sunday, some church goers park inside the Hdb Carpark behind the church but residents complain as no enough lots for resident on weekend because of the church so Carpark become season ticket holders only. So the street 22 become a free for all. Anyway it BS, there plenty of parking lots, only need to walk 5-8min. Opposite the church at defu lane, plenty of lots as no one work on Sunday.

Treatment not the same for the Chinese temple 150m down the road. Cannot park roadside, confirm Kenna ticket. Then another 100m down to the mosque, a different rule again. Here Friday prayers and other mosque events become green light to park roadside.

No need to complain lah. Can't fight them then join them lah. I park many times on Friday noon time near mosque then go nearest makan place for lunch. Just make sure return by 1330hrs. It help to hang an Islam trinket on the rear view mirror. But not a must lah.
 

songsongjurong

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offender turn victim ? these church people are really one kind de




AUG 22, 2004 - The Sunday Times


Packed to the brim, all 160 lots in the Church of Our Lady of Perpetual Succour are often full on weekends. So some chuchgoers resort to parking along Siglap Hill. -- LAU FOOK KONG


To keep cars away, some residents have taken to placing traffic cones outside their gates. Others stand at their gates just before mass starts to fend off churchgoers. -- LAU FOOK KONG

Man disrupts church service because of parking woes
A churchgoer's car was blocking his front gate; man being investigated for disturbing assembly

By Ben Nadarajan

FED UP with churchgoers who parked their cars right in front of his house, a man stormed into a Catholic church in Siglap during mass and demanded that something be done about the problem.

A churchgoer at the Church of Our Lady of Perpetual Succour reported the incident to the Home Affairs Ministry, and police are now looking into it.

The man is being investigated for disturbing a religious assembly - an offence under the Penal Code. He is also under probe for uttering words that hurt the religious feelings of another person. If found guilty, he could be jailed for up to a year for each offence.

The man, who did not want to give his name, told The Sunday Times yesterday that he lost his temper during the incident two weeks ago. He wanted to go out but his front gate was blocked by another car.

He said he walked to the church along Siglap Hill and asked a staff member there to find the driver to move the car.

After waiting for 10 minutes in his two-storey terrace house, nobody came. The managing director of a construction and engineering company then barged into the church, just as the Reverend Gregorie Van Giang was about to read the Gospel.

The man, who is in his 40s and a freethinker, said: 'The church, as the host, should be responsible for its guests and not let them park anywhere they want.'

Some churchgoers sympathised with him. 'We can understand his frustrations. Many of us are also upset that our people are so inconsiderate,' said housewife Evelyn Ng, 34.

Residents along Siglap Hill, a quiet neighbourhood off Changi Road, have complained about parking problems to the police and Land Transport Authority (LTA) on many occasions in the past.

Some of the older residents said the problems had been around for 20 years, but worsened when the church finished renovation works a few years ago and more worshippers started attending mass.

Churchgoers park their cars along the road when all 160 lots in the church have been taken up, as they often are on weekends when more than 1,000 people attend services. Priests at the church have reminded churchgoers not to park along Siglap Hill as this obstructs traffic along the narrow two-way street, said members of the congregation.

The church even made arrangements for people to park at nearby Siglap View, in front of St Stephen's School. It is a five-minute walk away, but few churchgoers park there.

'Most of the cars which park along Siglap Hill are of those who are late and do not want to park far away,' said a church warden. 'Many are also too lazy to walk just a little bit.'

Some residents have taken to placing traffic cones outside their gates to keep cars away, while others stand at their gates just before mass starts to fend off churchgoers.

Although residents have put up with the problem, several new home owners are less tolerant.

Just last Sunday, a resident who moved in two years ago stopped his car in the middle of the road and refused to budge for 10 minutes, because his gate was blocked and he could not turn into his house.

Another frustrated resident, businessman Eric Chin, 47, said: 'When so many cars park along one side of the road, it leaves only one lane free in the two-way street. Very often, cars get stuck.'

Residents also complained about some arrogant car owners.

Madam Ngiam Lee Cheng, 64, confronted one last year.

'But the man told me he pays road tax so he had a right to park there,' she said.

To help end this stand-off between residents and churchgoers, the police have stepped up patrols in the area.

The LTA will also put in double yellow lines by the end of the week. Those caught parking illegally will be fined, given demerit points or have their cars towed away.

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Copyright @ 2004 Singapore Press Holdings. All rights reserved.
 

cunnilaubu

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You guys want to try parking outside the Kwan Im Theng Temple at Moulmein Rd during 1st or 15th of the lunar month?
The moment you walked into the temple, your car will be summoned. Try it!
 

Agoraphobic

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Maybe the time is right for Sunday Mass/Friday Mosque to be held over TV. Devotees only turn on their TV at the prayer times and the priest/iman appears on their screen (live telecast even), put their hands to the TV monitor to feel the glory of their God. Donations, just mail in the check. Solves all commuting and traffic woes.

Cheers!
 

Narong Wongwan

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You guys want to try parking outside the Kwan Im Theng Temple at Moulmein Rd during 1st or 15th of the lunar month?
The moment you walked into the temple, your car will be summoned. Try it!
some bigfuck elite stays around there that he needs roads to be cleared?
 

drifter

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next time you all buy house must buy near religious shelter ...then can save money on the monthly carpark fee :wink:
 

wikiphile

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This one got a flimsy excuse. Last time on Sunday, some church goers park inside the Hdb Carpark behind the church but residents complain as no enough lots for resident on weekend because of the church so Carpark become season ticket holders only. So the street 22 become a free for all. Anyway it BS, there plenty of parking lots, only need to walk 5-8min. Opposite the church at defu lane, plenty of lots as no one work on Sunday.

Treatment not the same for the Chinese temple 150m down the road. Cannot park roadside, confirm Kenna ticket. Then another 100m down to the mosque, a different rule again. Here Friday prayers and other mosque events become green light to park roadside.

No need to complain lah. Can't fight them then join them lah. I park many times on Friday noon time near mosque then go nearest makan place for lunch. Just make sure return by 1330hrs. It help to hang an Islam trinket on the rear view mirror. But not a must lah.

Ah yes the temple, i realized that they have to hold their activites at the Defu area right and not immediately around the temple vicinity.
 
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