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A Singaporean's guide to living in Thailand

chonburifc

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last batch of rice for distribution. 75 kg. in total, i distributed 300 kg of rice over the last week.. have another 300 kg in upcountry for own consumption.

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Charlie99

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Distributing rice, as a part of your donation or contribution to the needy?

Do you consume 300 kg of rice a year?

We consume 2 cups of rice a week.
 

Froggy

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What more need a man ask for every morning - a nice pickup truck, Thai country music, the freeway and maybe a ciggie between his fingers . . . . . . . . this is life

[video=youtube;5pDOtX8c0D4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pDOtX8c0D4[/video]
 

chonburifc

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Distributing rice, as a part of your donation or contribution to the needy?

Do you consume 300 kg of rice a year?

We consume 2 cups of rice a week.
we have been donating a small portion of our harvest to a few charity organisations. we also give away the rice to friends and associates, staffs and customers. difference is ours is freshly harvested rice or new rice.
 

chonburifc

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at my latest shop now. noe head big liaoz. just check thr computers and basic stuff. should be ok.

btw, staff suggest we hold the christmas party at my new shop. kns, its 4 day to go and how am i going to complete in 4 days. most likely i get a catering company to do it as i do not have enough chairs and tables.

those who happen to be in town are welcome to join in the fun on 24 december.

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Charlie99

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we have been donating a small portion of our harvest to a few charity organisations. we also give away the rice to friends and associates, staffs and customers. difference is ours is freshly harvested rice or new rice.

Very good of you.
Please enlighten me on freshly harvested rice compared to the rice at the retailer?
 

chonburifc

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no problem. freshly harvested rice are usually sold to middlemen for export or dosmeic consumption. as the harvest season are almost the same thought out the country, the rice are held at warehouse in a first in first out system. meaning the oldest rice in storage will be sold first. for many harvest, there is a likelihood of over production but the middlemen will still take in the excess rice and release it at the right time. by doing this, the price of rice will be very stable and won't drop too much when there is over production.

the warehouse also protect against sharp price increase if the harvest is bad as the warehouse has stock of previous harvest. that will be very old rice.
 

chonburifc

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What more need a man ask for every morning - a nice pickup truck, Thai country music, the freeway and maybe a ciggie between his fingers . . . . . . . . this is life

bro, u 24 december free boh? got a xmas party at my new shop. i take care of the hennesy. just come if you are free, ok.

this is my new office. only short of a secretary. :p

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chonburifc

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no problem. freshly harvested rice are usually sold to middlemen for export or dosmeic consumption. as the harvest season are almost the same thought out the country, the rice are held at warehouse in a first in first out system. meaning the oldest rice in storage will be sold first. for many harvest, there is a likelihood of over production but the middlemen will still take in the excess rice and release it at the right time. by doing this, the price of rice will be very stable and won't drop too much when there is over production.

the warehouse also protect against sharp price increase if the harvest is bad as the warehouse has stock of previous harvest. that will be very old rice.
left out something very important. there are also warehouses in the countries where the rice are exported. for eg. sg will have their own warehouse manage by the local importers. so by the time, it reach the consumers, the rice is really quote old.
 

rotikosong

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we have been donating a small portion of our harvest to a few charity organisations. we also give away the rice to friends and associates, staffs and customers. difference is ours is freshly harvested rice or new rice.

Sounds like you are an expert. Are there different types of hom mali rice? If so, what are some of the varieties that are highly valued or prized? Is the provenance (where it is grown) important in perceived quality i.e. is rice from the north better or north-east or central or south etc?

For example, with medium-grain rice (which is what I eat mostly), Japanese varieties like koshihikari, hitomebore are highly desired, much more expensive. Even with the same varieties, where the rice is grown is a large factor in how desirable it is.

Congrats on your new business!
 

yinyang

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noe head big liaoz. btw, staff suggest we hold the christmas party at my new shop. kns, its 4 day to go and how am i going to complete in 4 days.
Better put your nice boss desk to good use :p Btw, 1st pic kinda amm so so ..reminds us of some not so legit joint (like the 1 we missed out in afternoon at Sattahip) :p.

Still fondly remember me with other bloke in WS hanging on to your 5kg new rice. Had to "park" in a few bars, machiam talking point with puyings
 

chonburifc

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Sounds like you are an expert. Are there different types of hom mali rice? If so, what are some of the varieties that are highly valued or prized? Is the provenance (where it is grown) important in perceived quality i.e. is rice from the north better or north-east or central or south etc?

For example, with medium-grain rice (which is what I eat mostly), Japanese varieties like koshihikari, hitomebore are highly desired, much more expensive. Even with the same varieties, where the rice is grown is a large factor in how desirable it is.

Congrats on your new business!
Thanks Roti, please refer to the following website on the grades.

http://www.thai-hommalirice.com/ewt_news.php?nid=27

As for grading, it is quite subjective as it is graded by human using random sampling. For example, If I have 20 tonnes of rice, they will only selective test a few bags. The north east grains will be the better quality due to climate and geographical reasons. For example, the same grain, if planted in different region will be different.

Another factor is cultivation method. The northerner cultivated their rice crops on hills whereas the north eastener on flat land.
 

chonburifc

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Better put your nice boss desk to good use :p Btw, 1st pic kinda amm so so ..reminds us of some not so legit joint (like the 1 we missed out in afternoon at Sattahip) :p.

Still fondly remember me with other bloke in WS hanging on to your 5kg new rice. Had to "park" in a few bars, machiam talking point with puyings
Hehehe. Lucky you. This time round, the packaging size is 15kg per sack. :p

Will be holding a lelong session over the next few days as I do not need so much furniture.
 

rotikosong

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Thanks Roti, please refer to the following website on the grades.

http://www.thai-hommalirice.com/ewt_news.php?nid=27

As for grading, it is quite subjective as it is graded by human using random sampling. For example, If I have 20 tonnes of rice, they will only selective test a few bags. The north east grains will be the better quality due to climate and geographical reasons. For example, the same grain, if planted in different region will be different.

Another factor is cultivation method. The northerner cultivated their rice crops on hills whereas the north eastener on flat land.

Thanks. But the website you provided is about grades of rice (unbroken, color, degree of milling etc) not the varietals of rice. I guess with Hom Mali, they are not that discerning in terms of varieties as with Japanese short/medium rice. In Japan, when they sell rice, you get on display a choice of a wide variety of rice, subdivided by which region it is grown in, and harvest date is clearly printed. Same, to a lesser extent, with rice sold in the USA - more discerning customers buy very specific varietals of rice. In both markets, there is no differentiation on grade - there is only one grade sold which I assume is the top-level grade.

Also, there is a trend towards healthier unmilled rice. For example, genmai (brown) rice and haiga (brown rice with the germ intact) are widely sold and bought.
 

chonburifc

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On things rice, cbfc you right on middle men doing the rice trade (thai chinese?). And the socialist buy back scheme has economic repercusisons

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/326983/

Whilst at it, saw this piece which may warm tony chat's cockles: :p

http://www.bangkokpost.com/breakingnews/327153/transsexuals-steal-tourists-iphones
yes, dominated by the few families or cartels. the original khao san road was the place where rice merchants used to do their biz.

read a recent article the prc will be importing the rice but i doubt it is the top grade rice.
 

Froggy

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no problem. freshly harvested rice are usually sold to middlemen for export or dosmeic consumption. as the harvest season are almost the same thought out the country, the rice are held at warehouse in a first in first out system. meaning the oldest rice in storage will be sold first. for many harvest, there is a likelihood of over production but the middlemen will still take in the excess rice and release it at the right time. by doing this, the price of rice will be very stable and won't drop too much when there is over production.

the warehouse also protect against sharp price increase if the harvest is bad as the warehouse has stock of previous harvest. that will be very old rice.

For me I already got my new rice supply harvested last end last month. Sibeh pang ah, even the glutinous rice is also sibeh pang ah. No one outside Thailand can get this type of rice la.
 

rotikosong

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Another factor is cultivation method. The northerner cultivated their rice crops on hills whereas the north eastener on flat land.

As you know, in the past, I've spent some time in the north. I think mostly, rice is grown on small-plot, flat land paddy fields. At least in CR, Mae Sai, Chiang Khong and Chiang Saen area.
The hill-side rice is also grown, but is a different kind of rice altogether that does not require the same amount of irrigation. I believe they call this khao doi. I actually like it, it is nuttier and harder in flavor.
The north also grows a lot of glutinous rice (khao niao) since that's the staple diet. I think the ratio in growing khao suay/niao depends on what the farmer thinks will fetch a better price (futures market haha)

The farmers don't make a lot of money, not even when in prices of rice escalate. They middlemen set the prices which are different from the spot market and mostly the middlemen form cartels to price fix. Farmers have to accept the price because a) they need working capital for seeds/fertilizer/labor (mostly from Myanmar) for next season's growing b) they don't have warehousing capacity. Farmers have been forming collectives to try to get better prices but still lose out in leverage.

They mostly plant once a year although a lot of farmers now are beginning to upscale their farm sizes and are better trained with the next generation (e.g. agriculture degrees from the ubiquitous Rajabhat universities) so they can plant 2x/year.

I worked harvesting rice one time. Developed a rash all over my legs next day - those rice stalks can a cause a serious itch.
 

Froggy

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bro, u 24 december free boh? got a xmas party at my new shop. i take care of the hennesy. just come if you are free, ok.

this is my new office. only short of a secretary. :p

I will be in Jakarta from tomorrow. Thanks for the invite.

This type of office worker nice

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Froggy

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Sounds like you are an expert. Are there different types of hom mali rice? If so, what are some of the varieties that are highly valued or prized? Is the provenance (where it is grown) important in perceived quality i.e. is rice from the north better or north-east or central or south etc?

For example, with medium-grain rice (which is what I eat mostly), Japanese varieties like koshihikari, hitomebore are highly desired, much more expensive. Even with the same varieties, where the rice is grown is a large factor in how desirable it is.

Congrats on your new business!

I'm no expert here however one thing I do know and all Thais will know, the most expensive jasmine rice, Hom Mali, is from this very dry place in Isaan known as Thung Kula Rong Hai. Hom Mali from there are accredited by the authorities and many countries overseas to be the best and cannot copy. No one can call their rice Thung Lula Rong Hai Hom Mali unless it really from there just like Champagne. Its not easy to get this even if can pay that's what I heard.

As the name suggested Rong Hai in Thai means "cry", so the name of this place suggested crying in Thung Kula. Why? Thung Kula is one of the driest place in Thailand if you google the name you can probably see many photos of how dry it is, and whatever the farmers try to grow here it cannot grow as it is very dry and they could only cry and cry. But amazingly when they planted rice it produces the best rice in Thailand. This is the story I heard from a few Thai friends.
 
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