MBT Admits Tampines Is Very Dirty

[Ramseth]

马宝山自爆：淡滨尼很脏　考虑换承包商并增聘清洁工


<!-- END story title --><!-- story -->淡滨尼居民发现住屋环境很肮脏，枯萎的大片叶子掉满草地，多天没人清理。

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<!--end storyhighlight--><!-- ~RENDER PAGE MARKER~ --><!-- CONTENT : start -->国家发展部长马宝山在网上自爆，他管辖的淡滨尼选区很脏，考虑更换清洁承包商，并增聘清洁工人。
马宝山上周二到选区区视察时，发现居民对居住环境诸多不满。
他过后在个人的Facebook社交网站上说：“可能需要换承包商，增加监督及工人。这证明我们有多依赖清洁工，尤其是外劳。”
他还在留言后放了张“苦脸”。
一些居民对部长的建议，表示欢迎。穆拉利说，原本的清洁工很勤奋，现在换了一批人，清洁度每况愈下。
另一居民法立也说：“我们得换承包商，或许也可采用机械，代替人工清理组屋区。”
马宝山欢迎居民随时向他提出改善组屋区清洁的建议。

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

The problem doesn't stop at "dirty". The cleaners are actually clearing rubbish chutes late at night, sometimes till 12 am!

Apparently, some people cut corners...

Goh Meng Seng

 

[BusNo64]

MBT doing a fuckup job in tampines...Cpt Goh Meng Seng say taking care of tampines estate is not his priority... TAMPINES IS SCREWED!!!

 

[Queen Seok Duk]

The problem doesn't stop at "dirty". The cleaners are actually clearing rubbish chutes late at night, sometimes till 12 am!

Apparently, some people cut corners...

Goh Meng Seng

MBT 'pang zhan' you.

 

[Ramseth]

The problem doesn't stop at "dirty". The cleaners are actually clearing rubbish chutes late at night, sometimes till 12 am!

Apparently, some people cut corners...

What do you care? I thought you say it's not important, not of priority? Go Parliament and fight over national policy?

My auntie and uncle Tampines residents asked me, am I sure that my friend Cpt. GMS is of sound mind when he said caring for wards isn't important and is of lower priority? I didn't know how to reply. I just said I'd check with him. They were classic half-baked Chinese educated heartlanders, can't read much English and never served the net. But their son, i.e. my cousin, raised the concern to them and me. What's GMS talking about?

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

What do you care? I thought you say it's not important, not of priority? Go Parliament and fight over national policy?

My auntie and uncle Tampines residents asked me, am I sure that my friend Cpt. GMS is of sound mind when he said caring for wards isn't important and is of lower priority? I didn't know how to reply. I just said I'd check with him. They were classic half-baked Chinese educated heartlanders, never served the net. But their son, i.e. my cousin, raised the concern to them and me. What's GMS talking about?

Just sack the Town Council manager if he or she cannot get the job done.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[Ramseth]

Just sack the Town Council manager if he or she cannot get the job done.

You have to place confidence in the electorate first before the electorate place you in that position to sack town manager and councillors. Once again, don't put the horse before the cart. Confidence has to be earned.

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

You have to place confidence in the electorate first before the electorate place you in that position to sack town manager and councillors. Once again, don't put the horse before the cart. Confidence has to be earned.

There is no such thing as confidence without concrete experience involved. And I will say it again, taking of the ward's cleanliness is the Town Council estate manager's responsibility. A MP at best, is the custodian of the Town Council, deciding who to hire and fire for the job to be done.

There will be Town Councilors to be appointed to give feedback on the Town. The MP will have to walk around the Town, meeting the people on the ground. He may give direct instructions if he sees something wrong with the place. But ultimately, the instructions will be given to the estate managers to get problems solved.

You try asking any PAP MPs who are lawyers, doctors or directors of companies or the Ministers to take care of the town... They may not even know what is happening down there!

For opposition MPs, it is just too exaggerated to say that they "take care" of the ward. They may be full time MPs but their priority is to attend parliament to debate on policies. Running of Town Councils are done by employing estate managers. Most probably opposition MPs spend more time going around the estate to meet the people, talk to them etc. Opposition MPs could do a better job if they go on full time MP, spending more time interacting with the voters. Taking care of them? How? Write letters for them? How many cases could you really solve with the civil service bureaucratic system in place? Put it simply, even PAP MPs or Ministers could not solve the problems of many of their constituents by writing letters!

Don't delude ourselves to think that there are superman powers to "take care" of the wards. Simply put, don't try fool voters just to get their votes. Most Singaporeans are not stupid.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[Cruxx]

GMS not a good politician. He doesn't know how to "spin".

 

[Seee3]

There is no such thing as confidence without concrete experience involved. And I will say it again, taking of the ward's cleanliness is the Town Council estate manager's responsibility. A MP at best, is the custodian of the Town Council, deciding who to hire and fire for the job to be done.

There will be Town Councilors to be appointed to give feedback on the Town. The MP will have to walk around the Town, meeting the people on the ground. He may give direct instructions if he sees something wrong with the place. But ultimately, the instructions will be given to the estate managers to get problems solved.

You try asking any PAP MPs who are lawyers, doctors or directors of companies or the Ministers to take care of the town... They may not even know what is happening down there!

For opposition MPs, it is just too exaggerated to say that they "take care" of the ward. They may be full time MPs but their priority is to attend parliament to debate on policies. Running of Town Councils are done by employing estate managers. Most probably opposition MPs spend more time going around the estate to meet the people, talk to them etc. Opposition MPs could do a better job if they go on full time MP, spending more time interacting with the voters. Taking care of them? How? Write letters for them? How many cases could you really solve with the civil service bureaucratic system in place? Put it simply, even PAP MPs or Ministers could not solve the problems of many of their constituents by writing letters!

Don't delude ourselves to think that there are superman powers to "take care" of the wards. Simply put, don't try fool voters just to get their votes. Most Singaporeans are not stupid.

Goh Meng Seng

Never seen a more screwed reply. You are definitely not getting my vote.

 

[Ramseth]

There is no such thing as confidence without concrete experience involved. And I will say it again, taking of the ward's cleanliness is the Town Council estate manager's responsibility. A MP at best, is the custodian of the Town Council, deciding who to hire and fire for the job to be done.

Practically the whole electorate knows that. You're still bent on hard to win for the first time. How did JBJ, CST, LTK, LHD and CCC win for their first times? You're still shirking responsibility of MP before even winning. Appointing Town Council Manager and Councillors is a very important job, not just a rubber stamp.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

GMS not a good politician. He doesn't know how to "spin".

Hahahah. You mean GMS don't know how to.......

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

Practically the whole electorate knows that. You're still bent on hard to win for the first time. How did JBJ, CST, LTK, LHD and CCC win for their first times? You're still shirking responsibility of MP. Appointing Town Council Manager and Councillors is a very important job, not just a rubber stamp.

Yes, appointing Town Council manager very important job but that doesn't amount to "taking care of the ward". This is an over-statement and taking too much credits.

This is why PAP has to twist the "taking care of the ward" concept into pork barrel politics of providing HDB upgrading. As opposition candidates, could we possibly fight according to that basis? I will fool no one, definitely not myself into thinking of that.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Practically the whole electorate knows that. You're still bent on hard to win for the first time. How did JBJ, CST, LTK, LHD and CCC win for their first times? You're still shirking responsibility of MP before even winning. Appointing Town Council Manager and Councillors is a very important job, not just a rubber stamp.

Mister Kuang, for the first time I agree with you. The opposition is criticizing the parliament as a rubber-stamping parliament (PAP), but now GMS is saying it is OK to have a rubber-stamping town council management system. That is not consistent. :p

 

[Ramseth]

Yes, appointing Town Council manager very important job but that doesn't amount to "taking care of the ward". This is an over-statement and taking too much credits.

If being elected by the constituents doesn't amount to a responsibility to "taking care of the ward," then I don't know what does. There's no overstatement or credit, it's just a job you stood to get elected for.

Please don't tell me some PAP MPs don't take care of their wards. If they don't, you're supposed to spot that opportunitity and win their wards over.

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

If being elected by the constituents doesn't amount to a responsibility to "taking care of the ward," then I don't know what does. There's no overstatement or credit, it's just a job you stood to get elected for.

Please don't tell me some PAP MPs don't take care of their wards. If they don't, you're supposed to spot that opportunitity and win their wards over.

The appropriate word to use is "Look After", not taking care. They do not do the job of the estate managers. They are just custodians.

That is what PAP wants everyone to think, when you are elected, you are supposed to "take care of the ward". This is so that they could add on what constitute as "taking care" of the ward, like HDB upgrading.

Opposition members will most probably be better in "looking after" the ward than any PAP MPs, but not in terms of "taking care" of the ward when it comes to HDB upgrading and such.

Get this clear in your mind. You are supposed to be more politically aware person and should not fall so easily into such mind traps.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[Ramseth]

The appropriate word to use is "Look After", not taking care. They do not do the job of the estate managers. They are just custodians.

Nobody argued with that, not me, not the voters. You're just arguing against your own mastery the language and politcal implication. Even I think it's not that. You're just arguing for your ego. Is it so hard to accept and admit that you've made a slip, say sorry and rectify it? Instead of digging on and on a moot point?

I'll defend you against malicious groundless allegations by others. But if you want to DIY, I can't help you. Go ahead, by all means.

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

Nobody argued with that, not me, not the voters. You're just arguing against your own mastery the language and politcal implication.

To put it simply, the main primary, sole, important job of MP is legislation. Don't be distracted by PAP's pork barrel politicking. We should be taking care of the whole Singapore by debating on the policies rather than just taking care of our own wards.

Goh Meng Seng

 

[Ramseth]

To put it simply, the main primary, sole, important job of MP is legislation. Don't be distracted by PAP's pork barrel politicking. We should be taking care of the whole Singapore by debating on the policies rather than just taking care of our own wards.

It's alright. I'll accept your right to your interpretation of the constitution. You're the candidate, not me.

 

[Queen Seok Duk]

Yes, appointing Town Council manager very important job but that doesn't amount to "taking care of the ward". This is an over-statement and taking too much credits.

This is why PAP has to twist the "taking care of the ward" concept into pork barrel politics of providing HDB upgrading. As opposition candidates, could we possibly fight according to that basis? I will fool no one, definitely not myself into thinking of that.

Goh Meng Seng

GMS, you have enlightened me with the above post. I'm not being sarcastic.