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Serious PAP Govt To Pay Insurance Coverage For All NSFs and NS-Men! Insure At Least $150k !

JohnTan

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SINGAPORE: Starting Jul 1, the Ministry of Defence (MINDEF) and Ministry of Home Affairs (MHA) will provide life and personal accident insurance coverage for all full-time National Servicemen (NSFs) and operationally ready National Servicemen (NSmen) in the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF), Singapore Police Force (SPF) and Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF).

In a joint news release on Tuesday (Jun 21), the ministries said the group insurance policy is one of 30 recommendations by the Committee to Strengthen National Service (CSNS) to "better recognise the contributions of National Servicemen to national defence and security, and to strengthen our care for them".

The group insurance coverage was announced in April, by Senior Minister of State for Defence Ong Ye Kung in Parliament, as one of three ways that the Government would be enhancing recognition of NSmen. The other two enhancements come in the form of better SAFRA facilities as well as gifts and vouchers.

Under the insurance scheme, MINDEF and MHA will fully pay for the premiums of S$150,000 in group term life and S$150,000 group personal accident insurance coverage for the period of the servicemen's full-time NS and operationally ready NS duties.

The same coverage will also be extended to both regulars, during their period of employment, and volunteers, during their official duties, from both ministries.

Those under the scheme who wish to further insure themselves outside these periods or insure their dependants can purchase additional coverage on a voluntary basis at "competitive premiums", the authorities said.

The voluntary scheme will be made available from Jul 1 for MHA personnel and Oct 1 for MINDEF personnel. Unlike the core insurance coverage, which ceases when the insured person's service or employment ends, those insured under the voluntary scheme may continue to be covered after the completion of their service or employment is over, the ministries said.

This scheme covers up to S$1 million for group term life insurance and up to S$600,000 for group personal accident insurance.


For those who are currently policyholders under either ministry’s existing insurance scheme, existing coverage will also be ported over to the voluntary scheme so there will not be a gap in insurance coverage, they said, adding that they will work with appointed insurance company Aviva to ensure a smooth transition and conduct briefings and roadshows to those eligible for the new coverage.

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(Infographic: MINDEF, MHA)

SCHEME WOULD REASSURE SERVICEMEN, FAMILIES: VIKRAM NAIR

MINDEF director of National Service affairs Simon Lim said National Servicemen form the backbone of the Singapore Armed Forces and perform "valuable service" to the nation.

"The provision of this group term life and group personal accident insurance, which is on top of our current welfare and compensation frameworks, is our way to thank them for their contributions to national defence," Colonel Lim said.

MHA director of NS affairs Rupert Gwee added that the group insurance was one of "many ways" in which the authorities look after the well-being of officers "as they go about their duties to keep Singapore safe and secure".

Meanwhile, Chairman of the Government Parliamentary Committee for Defence and Foreign Affairs Vikram Nair said the scheme would go a long way towards reassuring servicemen and their families about the level of coverage they would receive.

He also emphasised that this was not rolled out in response to increased risk of accidents in the training of servicemen.

"It's a recognition of their contribution and I think the reality is that no matter how many precautions you take, accidents could happen ... the risks of accidents are always there and we try and make training as safe as possible while keeping it realistic," he said.

"I think it's good for these NS men and their families to know that there is this level of insurance coverage available should something happen."

INSURER LOOKING TO ENHANCE SYSTEMS FOR NS PERSONNEL: CEO

Aviva's chief executive officer Nishit Majmudar noted that the company has been providing insurance coverage for SAF servicemen since 1983, and that it was a "strong vote of confidence" to be chosen as the appointed insurer once again for MINDEF while also being appointed as the insurer for MHA.

Mr Nishit said that with the latest change in the scheme, the insurer's existing dedicated portal for MINDEF and SAF personnel's servicing and purchase needs would be extended to MHA personnel. He added that Aviva has a dedicated team of relationship consultants for MINDEF and MHA personnel, and is in the midst of mapping out enhancements and new features for the portal that will benefit the personnel of both ministries.

He also revealed that the company recently digitised the claims process for group insurance policyholders, launching a mobile application and portal called ClaimConnect.

Other than allowing users to submit their medical claims electronically, the system is expected to shorten turnaround time for claims to be processed, Mr Nishit said. In addition, users can access their coverage details and claims history to manage their medical expenses and claims with "more clarity", he said.

Mr Nishit said the insurer is looking to roll out ClaimsConnect to MINDEF and MHA personnel under the group insurance scheme.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/all-national-servicemen/2891146.html?cid=fbcna
 

batman1

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Re: PAP Govt To Pay Insurance Coverage For All NSFs and NS-Men! Insure At Least $150k

What is the difference between Group Term Life (GTL) Policy and Group Personal Accident (GPA) Policy ?
 

halsey02

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What is the difference between Group Term Life (GTL) Policy and Group Personal Accident (GPA) Policy ?

It is like this, they sell you a box of LEGO, at a discount, but in order to complete whatever the :.for example, "fantastic four" figurine, you have to pay extras for the rest of bricks...or you can just get the freebie...with parts missing....it will still function but..... get it, that's the difference, with the PAP marketing...the beautiful word now is "CORE"...you bet, it it 'rotten to the core'....

You will still end up paying more for whatever the difference in the policy....as if you do not know the PAP..so good?:rolleyes:
 

shittypore

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You will still end up paying more for whatever the difference in the policy....as if you do not know the PAP..so good?:rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Its another way of saying, you still get screwed by PAP.
 

frenchbriefs

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every year the taxpayers give 14 billion to the military to keep this elephant afloat and they cannot even set aside something for the soldier's life insurance?

just set up a small endowment fund like 100 million or so,use the investment returns and interest to pay all the nsf who got killed or injured or disabled in the course of duty,wtf is 100 mil?that is not even the cost of 1 fighter jet.is the lives of 50,000 soldiers cheaper than 1 fighter jet?
 

johnny333

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Re: PAP Govt To Pay Insurance Coverage For All NSFs and NS-Men! Insure At Least $150k

Are cronies with ties to the insurance companies going to make $$$ from this:confused:
 

zhihau

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Altogether now!!! Huat ah!!!
 

winnipegjets

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For this extra, they will squeeze some blood out of you.
 

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Re: PAP Govt To Pay Insurance Coverage For All NSFs and NS-Men! Insure At Least $150k

Wow the PAP really is the best of the best. No other country treats its citizens so well and takes such good care of them.

The 70% were right on the money.
 

scroobal

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It always takes some parent or some segments of Singaporeans to raise an issue before the Govt acts.. The Govt will never admit it should have done better and then wait for things to quieten down and then claim that they made the changes from the goodness of their heart.

Note that this scheme has been extended to MHA - SPF and SCDF. Together with SAF, they are parties that cannot be sued once the Govt has paid out some compensation based on a formula. The mother of Dominique Sarron Lee actions led to the change.

The committee was formed to reverse engineer the outcome. People like Vikram Nair are as useless as they come - never made a sound when the issue of death of Pte Dominique Sarron Lee was all the rage and now acting as a concerned person.

Its a disgrace that it took 48 years for Mindef to provide adequate coverage. And of course the premium has to be paid by the Govt as it is conscription and they only get an allowance.
 

greedy and cunning

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Re: PAP Govt To Pay Insurance Coverage For All NSFs and NS-Men! Insure At Least $150k

Wow the PAP really is the best of the best. No other country treats its citizens so well and takes such good care of them.

The 70% were right on the money.

:mad::mad: insurance companies no bussiness izzit ?
:biggrin::biggrin: need garberment to donate money to them ?

how many cases of serious injury and death per year ?

min-deaf , hom-a-fare can easily provide the compensation
without having to go to the insurance companies.

the insurance companies will receive more than what they pay out. :o:o
 

FangSinGuek

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to star with, NSmen shud hv their insurance paid for since day one...... they are forced into NS so it made no sense that they pay for their own insurance coverage!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

johnny333

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Re: PAP Govt To Pay Insurance Coverage For All NSFs and NS-Men! Insure At Least $150k

The PAP cronies in the insurance business are going to make a killing:rolleyes:

The PAP implemented Medishield Life & now they have insurance for NS men. Is Ho Ching or the famiLee now doing insurance & getting a cut:confused:
 

frenchbriefs

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Re: PAP Govt To Pay Insurance Coverage For All NSFs and NS-Men! Insure At Least $150k

The PAP cronies in the insurance business are going to make a killing:rolleyes:

The PAP implemented Medishield Life & now they have insurance for NS men. Is Ho Ching or the famiLee now doing insurance & getting a cut:confused:

going to buy some aviva stock now!!!!
 

Papsmearer

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Re: PAP Govt To Pay Insurance Coverage For All NSFs and NS-Men! Insure At Least $150k

Wow the PAP really is the best of the best. No other country treats its citizens so well and takes such good care of them. The 70% were right on the money.
No other country forces their male citizens to serve in the army in the absence of any noticeable threat.
 

Leongsam

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Re: PAP Govt To Pay Insurance Coverage For All NSFs and NS-Men! Insure At Least $150k

No other country forces their male citizens to serve in the army in the absence of any noticeable threat.

The reason why there is no noticeable threat is because Singapore has National Service.

Without NS the country would have ceased to exist a long time ago.
 

frenchbriefs

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The reason why there is no noticeable threat is because Singapore has National Service.

Without NS the country would have ceased to exist a long time ago.

like iv posted in another thread why NS is useless.

agreed,in order to win wars,u need to have steel resolves and unbreakable will,Islam is giving them a reason,a faith a believe to commit the worst atrocities in mankind,to do the unthinkable,without which their wills would have been broken long ago.SAF will not last 2 weeks going up against the islamibabis........we may have warheads and fighter jets and Leopard tanks but the islamics up north in malaysia and indonesia will slit our throats and gut our bellys chop off our cocks and make us eat it.they will lay vengence and fury greater then a thousand air strikes and 1000 tons of tnt.they are more ruthless and bloodthirsty than the african warlords that use child soldiers in sierra leone.when sinkies hear the sound of islamic music playing in the distance and the words "ALLLLLLLLLLAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHUUUUUUU AKKKKKKKKKKKKBAHHHHH!!!!!" they will be paralyzed with fear,a fear that pierces their soul,like a thousand needles in their heart.ALLAAAAHHHH UUUUUUU AKBAAAAHHHHH!!!!!!
 
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Papsmearer

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Re: PAP Govt To Pay Insurance Coverage For All NSFs and NS-Men! Insure At Least $150k

The reason why there is no noticeable threat is because Singapore has National Service. Without NS the country would have ceased to exist a long time ago.
The reason there is no noticeable threat is because there really is no noticeable threat. Get it, numbnuts?
 

Papsmearer

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Re: PAP Govt To Pay Insurance Coverage For All NSFs and NS-Men! Insure At Least $150k

What is the difference between Group Term Life (GTL) Policy and Group Personal Accident (GPA) Policy ?
This is a very good question. I did some research into this. THIS WHOLE SAF INSURANCE IS A USELESS PR TACTIC. Group term life means that if you die during the coverage period, your designated beneficiary will get the insured amount. The caveat is that you have to die. Personal Accident insurance is simply coverage in case you lose a limb, are injured, etc in an accident, but not resulting in death. You get insurance payout depending on the severity of the injury. For Aviva, according to their website, loss of a finger is as low as 15% of the coverage amount, depending on how much of the finger is lost. If you have lost a leg or arm, then you can get the full amount of the coverage. There are many things that are unclear, and I suppose the devil will be in the fine print. For example, if you look at the statistics (which the SAF will not reveal), many more SAF personnel (regulars, NSmen, and Reservists) are injured then are killed. Its possible that 20 times more personnel are injured versus the number actually killed. I know people that were paralysed, suffered broken arm, broken leg, etc. during NS and in regular service. But under this insurance, such things are not covered. You get no compensation if such things happen. You have to lose an appendage or limb to get pay out. So, this accident insurance is next to useless as most injuries are not classified as accidents in the SAF. The US Army uses a different insurance system, called traumatic injury protection. This is much more appropriate. If for example, you are shot accidentally, or during life artillery firing, you suffered shrapnel injury, or if you go hit by grenade shrapnel during grenade range training, these injuries that you suffer are called traumatic injuries. These are not "personal accidents" and hence will not be covered by Aviva. In which case, its next to useless. Also, on Aviva's website, personal accident coverage is not applicable in times of war or terrorism. which is strange, considering they are insuring soldiers. So, I would be very careful to celebrate this so called insurance. Aviva are not stupid, their actuaries have already calculated all the probabilities and deem the them to be remote. If they are serious about offering insurance for the SAF, I dare them to offer Traumatic Injury Insurance. Otherwise, they should fuck off and call the whole thing off with the SAF. By the way, am I alone in thinking $150K is pittance for a death pay out? What is $150K to a parent who gas lost the income earnings from their son? It should be at least $500K. Cheap fucking SAF.
 
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