The Truth Behind Dinesh Raman Death

[Scrooball (clone)]

Assuming he actually had the brains to graduate from ITE and earn $1,500 per month. His annual income contribution is $18,000 per year. After deducting for CPF, the amount is even lower. So what kind of bullshit compensation is the family asking for?

 

[TopSage]

y

Assuming he actually had the brains to graduate from ITE and earn $1,500 per month. His annual income contribution is $18,000 per year. After deducting for CPF, the amount is even lower. So theywhat kind of bullshit compensation is the family asking for?

they are aaking for justice not compensation...there is this tendency
for the regime.to.convert everything into money...every step
of the way the.family consistently pursuit the truth.as.for.coroner.investigation
...it.is the govt that.tried to close the whole issue with money

 

[Leongsam]

y

they are aaking for justice not compensation...there is this tendency
for the regime.to.convert everything into money...every step
of the way the.family consistently pursuit the truth.as.for.coroner.investigation
...it.is the govt that.tried to close the whole issue with money

Justice was served for the victims of this animal. He's dead. Good riddance.

 

[WongMengMeng]

Justice was served for the victims of this animal. He's dead. Good riddance.

Excuse me sir, do you know the meaning of justice?

Let me try to keep it short and in plain English:

1. Justice was already served. When A commits the crime of robbery or running a porn website and is convicted to say 6 months in the slammer that is justice served. Society in general and much less the ruffians in blue have no right to inflict further punishment for the original crime.

2. If A, be he Dinesh Whatever for robbery or Leongsam for running a porn website misbehaves when in the slammer, he ought to be dealt with according to prison rules.

3. Force may be used to subdue Dinesh Whatever or Leongsam, but only such force as is necessary to deal with the situation and thereafter subject him to punishment for misbehaviour in prison as per point 2 above.

4. If they use more force than is necessary and causes harm to Dinesh Whatever or Leongsam, then the prisoner or his estate (if he dies from the use of such unnecessary force) has the right to sue the Government.

5. When the Government is being sued, it is for all intents and purposes an ordinary litigant. In other words, it is not treated as superior or more likely to be believed and most importantly the Government must follow the procedures and principles which applies to cases put before the court. One of the most important principles is that commenting on a case that is before the courts may amount to interference with the judicial process and whoever does that should be charged for CONTEMPT OF COURT.

6. These general principles as stated above are for the protection of ALL, not just Dinesh Whatever or Leongsam and their strict enforcement is in the interest of society. Today it may be Dinesh Whatever, tomorrow it may be Leongsam’s issue (legal jargon for child) who suffers at the hands of ruffians in blue who had quarrels with their wives the previous night and need to take it out on somebody anybody and the easiest targets are those so-called scums under their custody. By the way, the ruffians in blue are enforcing that custody on behalf of the people and the prison grounds are not their personal playground.

Now, any more questions? Don't you think that I am at least as good if not better than the person whose face is on my avatar? Just kidding.

My apologies for being so curt and to the point but it pains me that Sinkies are so unaware of many concepts which are fundamental to democracy – one of the most important of which is RULE OF LAW.

 

[Semaj2357]

thanks for the explanation and insight into the judicial process that will benefit every ak kow, ah neh, ah mat and joe blow.
also, a good candidate for the diplomatic service / corps in all your quiet modesty, if I may say so :p

Now, any more questions? Don't you think that I am at least as good if not better than the person whose face is on my avatar? Just kidding.

My apologies for being so curt and to the point but it pains me that Sinkies are so unaware of many concepts which are fundamental to democracy – one of the most important of which is RULE OF LAW.

 

[jonahlomu]

Anyone who assaults his own mother should be hung by the balls for 48 hours before being smashed in the head with a brick.

You are being too nice. Both his hands should be crippled or severed!

 

[Leongsam]

Excuse me sir, do you know the meaning of justice?

Let me try to keep it short and in plain English:

1. Justice was already served.

Serving a sentence does not mean that justice is served.

Justice is only served when the punishment is befitting of the crime. In most cases, this does not happen.

This animal deserved a slow death. It came too swiftly as far as I'm concerned.

As for the "rule of law", it is meaningless if the laws are drafted in such a way that justice is not the intention in the first place.

 

[PhuaCheeBye]

Justice was served for the victims of this animal. He's dead. Good riddance.

Its Good that the PAP govt get rids of such Ah Neh Scums regardless of fuck concept of rule of law. Why waste taxpayers money on such scums.

 

[WongMengMeng]

Serving a sentence does not mean that justice is served.

1. It may not mean that justice is served from your point of view but it does mean that justice is served from society's point of view.

Justice is only served when the punishment is befitting of the crime. In most cases, this does not happen.

2. Again this is your view versus society's view. Society's view is legislated and in the Penal Code and it is society's view that must prevail. Let me give you an example. If you personally believe that all rapists should be hanged, it doesn't matter. Society has already legislated that rape cases will get maximum sentence of whatever is stated in the Penal Code.

This animal deserved a slow death. It came too swiftly as far as I'm concerned.

3. Please see points 1 and 2 above.

As for the "rule of law", it is meaningless if the laws are drafted in such a way that justice is not the intention in the first place.

4. For some of the laws of Sinkieland yes, especially the election laws and other things crafted especially to favour the Scums in White. The most ludicrous of which is one person can in certain situations amount to an illegal ASSEMBLY. Many such laws are probably unconstitutional but no judge has the balls to make the correct ruling. However, such questions do not arise in Dinesh's case. The issue is what happened in prison and whether there was abuse of prison officers' powers and not what happened BEFORE. Scums in White's favourite tactic is distraction and to them lawyers are a nuisance 'cos they are trained to think clearly otherwise how to conduct cases in court?

The other thing is the MHA's statement constitutes contempt of court and if it is not prosecuted, then indeed there is no rule of law.

 

[AktifSingh]

Bhai, please be informed that a lotus can emerge from muddy waters. I implore the authorities to segregate all peace loving bhai protestors from the undesirables for proper treatment. Namaste.

Lotus

Muddy Waters

 

[Leongsam]

2. Again this is your view versus society's view. Society's view is legislated and in the Penal Code and it is society's view that must prevail. Let me give you an example. If you personally believe that all rapists should be hanged, it doesn't matter. Society has already legislated that rape cases will get maximum sentence of whatever is stated in the Penal Code.

What is stated in the Penal Code does not necessarily reflect the views of society. It could be out of date or forced upon society by external influences.

Take the fucking of 17 year old whores as an example. A few years ago it was legal. It is now illegal. Singapore society has not changed and society never demanded the change. It was the result of external pressure.

Scores of men are sitting in prison cells for this crime as we speak while the whores who knowingly misrepresented their age get away scott free.

This may be the rule of the law but it certainly is not "justice".

 

[Scrooball (clone)]

The family should just accept the compensation. Seriously, if he wasn't dead, he would be in and of prison like we go to JB for petrol and cheap shopping.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

The family should just accept the compensation. Seriously, if he wasn't dead, he would be in and of prison like we go to JB for petrol and cheap shopping.

Please remember to say this the next time pap fucking murder your love ones...


First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.

 

[Scrooball (clone)]

Please remember to say this the next time pap fucking murder your love ones...


First they came for the communists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a communist.

Then they came for the socialists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak out because I wasn't a trade unionist.

Then they came for me,
and there was no one left to speak for me.

Pls use your brains. Just a little will do. We are talking about some fucking retard who tried to play punk even though he is in jail. And this brilliant piece of trash beat up his own mother. So if you ask me, a communist is far better.

 

[WongMengMeng]

What is stated in the Penal Code does not necessarily reflect the views of society. It could be out of date or forced upon society by external influences.

Take the fucking of 17 year old whores as an example. A few years ago it was legal. It is now illegal. Singapore society has not changed and society never demanded the change. It was the result of external pressure.

Scores of men are sitting in prison cells for this crime as we speak while the whores who knowingly misrepresented their age get away scott free.

This may be the rule of the law but it certainly is not "justice".

I think we are side tracking here. Your latest reply raises a number of issues none of which are related to Dinesh's case.

I try my best to deal with them:

1. Amendment of laws to better reflect current conditions is indeed necessary. Especially if Ministars are paid OUT OF THIS WORLD salaries. Our Penal Code is based on a 19th century Indian version. Yes, colonial India.

2. There must be a genuine consultative process to determine the views of society. Not just PAP imposing its views and morality on the populace.

3. Some legislation is so out of date that piece meal amendment is not adequate. Do we have a law reform commission that actually does heavy duty work like in UK and elsewhere? I think not.

Bottom line is the PAP has been around for 50 years. Any inadequacies with respect to the above points fall squarely on their shoulders. Sinkies should also bear a large part of the responsibility for not pushing them, not electing enough Oppo MPs, believing whatever is written in Shitty Times, etc.

Back to Dinesh's case. He had been punished for his original crime in accordance with the law as it was then. Remember the Woffles Wu case? The AG said they couldn't charge him under the perversion of justice clause because it was not in force at the time when the events happened.

His conduct when in prison is a separate matter from the crime which got him there in the first place. The punishment for misconduct is to be dealt with in accordance with prison rules - solidarity confinement, no exercise breaks, no remission for good behaviour, etc. Nobody authorized the prison guards to beat him to death for his conduct in prison. That my dear is the bottom line.

 

[Extremist]

Assuming he actually had the brains to graduate from ITE and earn $1,500 per month. His annual income contribution is $18,000 per year. After deducting for CPF, the amount is even lower. So what kind of bullshit compensation is the family asking for?

I doubt Dinesh would even completed ITE, much less found a stable job, but getting the family into problem. He has been in and out of prison many times and continue to exhibit unremorseful behaviour.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

Pls use your brains. Just a little will do. We are talking about some fucking retard who tried to play punk even though he is in jail. And this brilliant piece of trash beat up his own mother. So if you ask me, a communist is far better.

Discard your loved ones if they are convicts...
likewise i'm sure you send your aged parents to jb to die...or disown disabled love ones.
Pity for your family members.
You are indeed a pragmatic sinkie in the lky mould.

 

[numero uno]

Notice the race involved. Shit skin lawyer and shit skin criminal. It's typical as expected when shit skin criminal dies it's never his fault and the blame falls on someone else. Shit skin lawyer obviously helps criminal due to the fact that both are shit skins.

all these snakes are the same. give them an inch they want a mile. real bastards. in the first place the asshole ask for it and is a ganster. even threatenn and beat up his own mother that's why she took a protection order from Government/police against her own son asking them to protect her against this bastard. How ironic that now she turn around and said garmen killed her son. the garmen make a bad mistake. should not have issue any PPO and let this bastard whack his own motehr or killed her then charge him and hang him for cold blooded murder. ALL problems solved!!! that's why never help these snakes. never grateful and vindictive. now shit family probably asking for the sky ie millions in compensation for a life worth shit. If LKY was around such things would not happen. look at how he dealth with JBJ and the pilots. sigh. when he goes off chaos would ensue in sinkieland. no wonder so many rapes and for so long in India. my advice is just stay away from them and have nothing to do with them.
the mother is another snake and ungrateful bastard. the garmen/courts should not have issue any PPO for her. Protect her against her own son and this is what you get. real shitty mother. real snake.
as you see it all runs in the family. Now you knwo why the same shit skins in Malaysia get whacked by Mudland police and people there cheer the police for it. In india they rapes wantonly for so long until an innocent girl got killed and sodomised so violently, even the some stupid human rights group in India deplore the death sentence. Thats why they says these types are worse than snakes.

 

[PhuaCheeBye]

death to all ah Nehs!!!

 

[No_Collar]

Heard that he is under some medication. I dont know if this was true. Gotta wait for the court hearing to find out more..