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Vivian waives privilege but WP can't sue because Pinky says government is behind it

winnipegjets

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Dr Balakrishnan's statement in Parliament was not just his personal opinion, the Prime Minister said, but the government's official position which the Cabinet had approved.

And we thought Ms Vivian had integrity, thus he waived parliamentary immunity on his statements. Now, we know that he did it knowing that he was being protected by the government.

When the WP sues, it will have to sue the government as well. So, public money will be wasted to defend the government. More of our tax dollars wasted if the WP sues.

SL and PS can and should make hay from this revelation. The WP will not sue because it does not want taxpayer's money to be wasted on unnecessary civil lawsuit.

If LHL and VB will dare to call SL and PS dishonest on a personal basis, then it will be a different ball game. Will LHL and VB do so?
 

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Pinky got to come out to shield VB. PAP using old tactics to stir up attack on opposition. Unfortunately majority of sinkies already see thru this nonsense and few are maintaining any attention on the state controlled media.

Pinky should wonder if a tree is falling in a forest, will it make any sound if no one is there to listen?
 

wendychan

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obviously someone is an important team player
 

steffychun

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Pinky got to come out to shield VB. PAP using old tactics to stir up attack on opposition. Unfortunately majority of sinkies already see thru this nonsense and few are maintaining any attention on the state controlled media.

Pinky should wonder if a tree is falling in a forest, will it make any sound if no one is there to listen?

Suddenly PM cares for Vivian on this issue. Other Vivian issues? PM stay silent
 

Semaj2357

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Pinky got to come out to shield VB. PAP using old tactics to stir up attack on opposition. Unfortunately majority of sinkies already see thru this nonsense and few are maintaining any attention on the state controlled media.

Pinky should wonder if a tree is falling in a forest, will it make any sound if no one is there to listen?

to paraphrase, will it make any difference if there's noise but no one there to listen? As they say, why look but cannot see, why hear but cannot listen....
 

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Suddenly PM cares for Vivian on this issue. Other Vivian issues? PM stay silent

Ha ha... let the whole pappy gang behind Vivian for this petty $7,200 issue.
We, voter will decide who have the biggest integrity issue.
Most importance is that WP should not be dragged into this kind of gutter politics.
Remember... "entrapment".
 

winnipegjets

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Suddenly PM cares for Vivian on this issue. Other Vivian issues? PM stay silent

Vivian managed to get the focus out of AIMgate while the others did not succeed.
 

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By Philip Ang

I refer to PM Lee’s statement on Aljuneid-Hougang-Punggol East Town Council cleaning incident.

Having raised the stakes too high in Parliament, the People’s Action Party (PAP) appears to have painted itself into a corner.

From a cleaning issue, it became one of integrity and now, its about good politics? When will this circus end? Has Parliament not already wasted 36 minutes of taxpayers’ money?

The longer the PAP tries to salvage whatever is left of its image, the more comments it will invite from netizens, mostly negative ones.

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong says we have honest, upright people in politics who can be trusted to uphold the public interest and to admit mistakes when things go wrong.

Question: Was public interest even a consideration when Parliament rammed through the Population White Paper?Is overcrowded public transport in our interest?When MND minister screwed up year after year with Singaporeans now having to pay sky high prices for public housing, did we hear our minister admitting his repeated mistakes, and apologising, or simply repeatedly telling us there would be enough land?

A list of instances of PAP admitting to mistakes should be provided to back PM Lee’s claim because there have been extremely few in Singaporeans’ collective memory.

PM Lee then made some motherhood statements on trust and speculated on Singaporeans’ expectations in politics.

He further went on to say what he would have done, insinuating that the opposition should have done likewise. From cleaning, to integrity, to good politics and the issue keeps evolving into who-knows-what.

The mistake in this case is Minister Vivian Balakrishnan’s when he waived his Parliamentary privilege. He upped the stakes too high and it appears there is no way of turning back the clock, dragging his boss PM Lee into the fray. Resorting to legal means is really old school and would have worked in the pre-internet era. Presently, most Singaporeans view this as a bullying tactic.

The WP has the right to disagree with the ‘evidence’ as the dossier was compiled by the PAP. The PAP has a track record of selective amnesia or cherry picking to bolster their argument eg public housing affordability (highlighting the one or two cases), healthcare affordability ($8 for a major operation) etc.

Minister Balakrishnan insisted on a ‘yes or no’ answer from Sylvia Lim in Parliament, essentially calling her a liar but without realising that he had put himself on a pedestal about to collapse. Let’s not forget the PAP has been evasive on a host of questions raised in Parliament, answers which are important to Singaporeans. This is not good politics as far as many are concerned.

The court of public opinion decides whether it is detrimental for Mr Low Thia Kiang to “leave these grave doubts about the integrity of his fellow MPs unresolved”. PM Lee does not decide what sort of politics Singapore needs. This is also decided by well educated Singaporeans, not the PAP, WP or any political party.

When 60 per cent voters receive 90 per cent Parliamentary representation, PM Lee’s definition of our First World Parliament really stretches the imagination.
Just like the extremely vague MDA licensing scheme, ‘good politics’ is also subjective and without any clear definition.

Good politics to many would mean addressing NEA’s failure in preparing for the haze crisis, finding a long term solution for frequent train breakdowns, according respect to the elderly by finding them alternative employment instead of doing mainly cleaning work, etc.

Reframing a cleaning issue into one of integrity or something else certainly isn’t. The definition of this is wasting everybody’s time.

- http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2013/07/painting-the-party-into-a-corner/
 

Satyr

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"When a man proclaims his honor loudly at the table , the faster we count the spoons".
Dr Samuel Johnson
 

steffychun

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actually what is parliamentary priviledge
 

Debonerman

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"When a man proclaims his honor loudly at the table , the faster we count the spoons".
Dr Samuel Johnson

I just counted. $387 million worth of YOG brand toothpicks had gone missing.
 

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And we thought Ms Vivian had integrity, thus he waived parliamentary immunity on his statements. Now, we know that he did it knowing that he was being protected by the government.

When the WP sues, it will have to sue the government as well. So, public money will be wasted to defend the government. More of our tax dollars wasted if the WP sues.

SL and PS can and should make hay from this revelation. The WP will not sue because it does not want taxpayer's money to be wasted on unnecessary civil lawsuit.

If LHL and VB will dare to call SL and PS dishonest on a personal basis, then it will be a different ball game. Will LHL and VB do so?


hi there


1. aiyoh!
2. this is called "all-in-one-familee" mah:biggrin:
3. protected and guaranteed.
4. must need a papa pinky bear to back it up.
 

3_M

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It just a replay of the James Gomez saga. If people didn't buy that,I don't see why should they this time round.
 

escher

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What is the fucking point of sueing when you all know the kangaroos will perform to PAP maggots and cockroaches

ALL THOSE BASTARDS HAVE NO FUCKING INTEGRITY OF ANY KIND

VOTE THEM ALL OUT OUT OUT IN 2016 IS THE BEST WAY TO DEAL WITH THOSE KIND OF TURD HEADS
 

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lianbeng says: how can citizens sue govt one? :rolleyes:
 

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Davinder singh the father of all defamation suits stands in the way n he does it pro bono for PAP gahmen...... who can match? Even Bill Gates cannot tahan.
 

Hans168

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Pinky got to come out to shield VB. PAP using old tactics to stir up attack on opposition. Unfortunately majority of sinkies already see thru this nonsense and few are maintaining any attention on the state controlled media.

Pinky should wonder if a tree is falling in a forest, will it make any sound if no one is there to listen?

It is naive for PAP to even think the votes are dumb n stupid........ unable to see thru what is being orchestrated. It will backfire.

Even if WP did goofed, voters will see it from the "honest mistake" angle invented by PAP.. Voters will never let PAP bring down WP becos it is the only hope they got left after being repeated cheated by gahmen such as CPF withdrawal age of 55 yrs
 
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Hans168

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It just a replay of the James Gomez saga. If people didn't buy that,I don't see why should they this time round.

PAP so scare of losing GE2016 that it is planning n taking actions now.
I wont be surprised many have bought big properties overseas JIC............ Yakult will balek USA with is US citizen sons counting money
 
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