There you go. You are stuck when challenged by me n date not answer a simple n basic question.
Nope, me no believe I came from wave of hand.
Where in the Bible did it say I came from the wave of a hand? Please show us sir
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Darwin Theory of Evolution has been proven scientifically
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There you go. You are stuck when challenged by me n date not answer a simple n basic question.
Nope, me no believe I came from wave of hand.
Where in the Bible did it say I came from the wave of a hand? Please show us sir
man need so much effort to create one single watch.
how could random events create a more complicated universe, with man and watch inside them?
there must be higher intelligence (higher than aliens) involved.
why should evolution care about morality and intelligence?
who is controlling natural chaos? how could evolution create a stable state?
if you don't discipline your kids and let them run wild, how can you ensure they be good and behave themselves??
thereby achieving a stable state? science can explain what is being observed. but can science explains its creation?? NO!!
how could random events create a more complicated universe, with man and watch inside them?
there must be higher intelligence (higher than aliens) involved.
why should evolution care about morality and intelligence?
who is controlling natural chaos? how could evolution create a stable state?
if you don't discipline your kids and let them run wild, how can you ensure they be good and behave themselves??
thereby achieving a stable state? science can explain what is being observed. but can science explains its creation?? NO!!
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If not by the wave of the hand, how did god do it?
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Fook Seng,
Evolution is indeed a fact, a scientifically proven fact now. That is the reason why the authoritative voices of the christian community have endorsed evolution as a scientifically proven fact. The Jews, the Catholic Church and the mainline protestant churches have made official acceptance of evolution. The strongest opponents remaining are the Johevah Witness and a small minorities of radical evangelism christians. Coincidentally, Miss kinana happened to be a follower of Pastor Rony Tan, Lighthouse Evangelism. How I know? God made the revelation personally to me
. You have to believe because it is from God.The creationist Scientists who are experts in the field are unable to refute the evolutional fact. In this forum, we have a segment of forummers with little knowledge in Science, less evolution trying to make rebuttal. OMG! LoL. There are people choosing to live in denial with their heads in the sand. It is their perogative! There are people still believe that the world is flat. There are people still believe that earth is the center of the universe. There are people still believe the bible is 100% accurate despite the many irrfutable holes.
You are right, Adam was created by a magician hand from a piece of substance that is similar in nature to a ROCK. She as christian has to tell us the bible, and not the other way round
. And it would be wise that you not be lead and drag by kinana to create a pile of trivia into the thread. Simply ignore her at the appropriate junction.
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I asked first n answered your question.
You haven't answered my question though..why runaway my fren. Why are you so unsure of your own beliefs? You scared n coward my fren? Confused?
StJohn
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Hello world.
What facts or which facts are you talking about? The only so-called evidences are those dead fossils million and million years ago that evolutionists alwasy bring out. At best, these fossils just tell us that there were some living animals many, many years ago and they looked something like this or like that....and excuse me.....not million years. Use your commonsense, the earth crush is very, very, very active. The whole earth is moving every second due to volcanic and other geological factors. Just buried a dead elephant in a mountain and in less than 500 years, you would not be able to locate even the biggest of it's bones. The simple earth moving would have shifted the bones and its remains beyond recognition! So, use your commonsense, how could fossils of 250 million stilll remains so intact. At most, only few thousand years ago.
Theory of Evolution is simply speculative and no one really know how long a fossil is. Being falling into the area of historical science, one cannot really know exactly what these creatures were in terms for their 'evolutive' premise. However, the current science - i.e. operational science - can testify that life can never come from non-life, let alone from a piece of rock or from nowhere. Every living organism must have the life-giving gene known as DNA and this can never be evolved. Being the language of life it has to come from a mind, no different from any written language. That's why astro-scientists are trying to detect some sounds from outer space and hopefully they could one day detect sounds that give some numerical, musical or pictorial pattern. Only then can this can prove there are intelligence beings in outer space. The meteroites that crushed onto the earth will, at best, provide science some kind of prove whether life is possible in other planets by analysing the chemical contents. If they discovered that the metorite debris has some water content, for example, they may just deduce that life could possible exist. That much they do. They cannot examine the debris to conclude that they are life in the outer space but only when they have received some radio or sound waves that indicate some logical patterns then they could infer that they might intelligent beings in the outer space. I am sure many of us know the project SETI. This project that cost million or even billion of dollars is design just to do that - ie. to capture, hopefully, some logical sound waves. Even a very simply signal like 1,3,5,7,9 will give a strong clue that they are possible life in the outspace.
So, my dear atheists, evolution is not a fact. It can never be because historical science can never be repeated, and in order to prove it a fact, you have to repeat the findings. Hence, a total impossibllity to prove that fossil A was evolved from fossil B, and human was evolved from fossil Z.
Psalm23
I got it! God created the elements. They were there after 7 days. Oil and coal are elements too? We can reverse engineer them? Energy problems solved!....LOL
Don't give me the shit of who ask first. Anyway my question is different from your question and it is OK to answer a question with a question as it can lead to the eventual answer.
So you believe you came from rocks? It's a simple yes or no answer bro.
Don't run away again. Stand by your belief
You are SungSongPunggol, coming back as a different persona after all the 10 points of the article you posted was dissented and rebutted point by point. Why you cannot counter-rebut the rebuttals before posting further?
The reason we know watches are designed is because WE BUILD THEM. I can go out and find instructions on how to make one. I can speak to people who have made them, or watch someone make one. I can learn to make one myself if I want, and I can go ahead and actually build one after learning. We don't judge whether something is designed or not based on its complexity, we judge based on the fact that we're the builders.
Psalm23,
Firstly, evolution is a branch of natural Science. Astronomy, cosmology, geology, paleontology and archaeology are some of the branches of historical science. This is not my self constructed opinion.
The very basic principle you are wrong. Yet you are trying to rebute a scientific theory using your own conceived reasoning that is wrong. How do you expect the remaining of your argument to stand water?
If evolution is not a fact, why would your catholic church endorse the theory of evolution officially and made known publicly?
You mean the pope and catholic church clergy are so dumb in endorsing a falsism? Can you answer this Question? It is important to clarify the air.
PS: Most of the mainline protestant churches already accepted evolution, why? You believe they are being fooled? You are at one level above?
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Secondly, you got another set of fact wrong. And you are trying to refute evolution using them.
Look at this picture, the display of Ming dynasty shipwreck artifacts 600 years ago at Victoria & Albert Museum in London. Underwater archaeologists are able to uncover many complete pieces from thousand of meters under the sea. One such complete piece is good enough to dispel you self-made claim -"Just buried a dead elephant in a mountain and in less than 500 years, you would not be able to locate even the biggest of it's bones."
Porcelain is made of more fragile material than the bones of elephant, I doubt you are using commonsense. You are just doing circular reasoning to fix the desired conclusions. That is not very scientific!
Psalm23, have you seen a fossil before? Or, have you worked in the field for the past 30 years? If you are an expert working the field, it would be unreasonable not to believe in you. If you are not, please provide backup or the source of info.
Psalm23,
The authoritative voices of the catholic church and the various mainstream christian churches would first need to satisfy themselves with the many evidences and proofs of evolution presented to them before making the officially endorsement.
Psalm23,
Are you trying to say the clergy failed miserably in doing their due deligence?
Or you are in a better position than them to get hold of the relevant authorised materials?
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Why God create dinosaurs?
Evolutionists believe dinosaurs create god
Evolution is scientifically proven, just as the theory of Gravity!
1. The Clergy Letter Project is a signed statement by 12,808 (as of 28 May 2012) American Christian clergy of different denominations rejecting creationism organized in 2004.
2. Molleen Matsumura of the National Center for Science Education found, of Americans in the twelve largest Christian denominations, at least 77% belong to churches that support evolution education
These are the facts, not made or claimed by an anonymous forummer called Toronto. Rather, by the official and establish entities of Christian clergy and Molleen Matsumura.
Miss Kinana, you mean you are wiser than them on evolution? Or, what you say carry more weight?
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