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YOUNG COUPLES Of Singapore, Can You AFFORD A Home? THE ANSWER IS NO!

CAN AFFORD OR CANNOT?

  • LUN CHEOW CAN AFFORD

    Votes: 8 50.0%
  • CAN AFFORD BCOS I EARN $1,000,000 A YEAR

    Votes: 1 6.3%
  • FUCK MABOCHEE AND HIS NONSENSE OF AFFORDABILITY

    Votes: 12 75.0%

  • Total voters
    16
  • Poll closed .

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GMS, TSH, and numerous others say CANNOT!

But Ministar MABOCHEE says affordable.

Who you believe?


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</td></tr> <tr><td class="msgtxt">I have been writing a lot on HDB policies and the ills of it recently basically because I am keeping up the pressure on the Minister of National Development to do something about it.

Mr. Mah Bow Tan has been very hardworking recently. I should say that he has made his utmost efforts recently to appear in Main Stream Media (MSM) to explain his HDB pricing policy is still "affordable".

Mr. Leong Sze Hian of TOC (The Online Citizen) has written quite a number of comments and queries on HDB policy. He has made many valid points and HDB has so far unable to provide satisfactory answers to all the questions raised so far.

According to Mr. Mah Bow Tan and his statutory board HDB, HDB flats are still "affordable", citing the "fact" that most Singaporeans are using less than 30% of their income for their HDB mortgage payment.

However, I should point out here that the Minister and his people have missed the point totally. They have based their "affordability" argument on a mortgage of 30 years. When I bought my HDB flat, I have tried to choose to go a mortgage of 15 years instead of 25 years. We settled for a 20 year mortgage instead.

My reason for a shorter mortgage is that the longer mortgage you have, the more interests you pay. And the increase of interests is not linear but rather compounded. Furthermore, imagine if you buy your flat at the average age of 27, if you go for 30 years of mortgage, it would mean that you could only pay off your mortgage at the age of 57! And if you use all your money in CPF to pay the mortgage, you will have no money for your retirement!

So what happen if you don't have enough savings for your retirement? In fact, the problem of insufficient retirement financing is surfacing slowly. The extend of the problem will explode in the next two decades when 3 generations of Singaporeans have spent all their money in financing their mortgage (for 3 decades) and have nothing left for retirement at all.

Now PAP government will tell you that oh, you can actually do a reverse mortgage of your flat! How nice of that, right? But it would mean that after slogging for 30 years, you will have nothing left to leave for your children!

In fact, the kind of "precision mathematics" that the PAP government has laid out for most Singaporeans is that most of us will be enslaved by the whole system! You will be slave to your HDB mortgage for all your working life and please make sure that you don't lose your job during this 30 years period else you will be living like those campers at Sembawang Park, Changi Beach, East Coast Park... without a roof over your head. But the best thing is this, even if you managed to pay off your mortgage for the 30 years of your productive life, you will be left with nothing for retirement!

Thus, the PAP government will OFFER you to reverse mortgage your HDB flat! Meaning that you have paid hefty interests (believe me, the total amount of interests you are paying may even be 50% of the loan if you loan from banks!) in paying for your HDB flats, you will end up selling it away cheap cheap to the government or banks! And if you die early, the government of bank will have the last laugh in taking your whole flat without paying anything further!

It means that, we will practically become SLAVES of our HDB mortgage! I would advise my young readers that if you are looking for a flat, make sure that you could pay off your mortgage in 15 years at your comfort zone... preferably 25% of your total household income. At the very worst, take only 20 years of mortgage and nothing more than that. If you can't, you better consider other alternatives. Don't be enslaved by this system, this myth of "affordability".

I will continue to fight the PAP, urging people of Tampines to vote Mah Bow Tan out, to send a strong signal to PAP that we do not want to be enslaved by the very system that they have built. We don't want our children to pay crazy prices for just a PUBLIC HOUSING which will in the end enslave them for the rest of their lives. We want to tell the PAP government that they could no longer fool us with such flawed argument and mathematical calculations. Most importantly, we want change to the way on how our lives are being governed.

Goh Meng Seng

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Oppositions should give young sgplians a reality check

To pay half a million for a pigeon hole is definitely financially taxing for a young couple with a small family of 4!

Family breakdown because of arguments over financial matters!!


So the ruling government is teaching you and adding spurs to your side .

They want you to be aspiring millionaires, proud home owner of leased apartments .


Because you are soon to be paying for million dollar HDBs .
 
No laughing matter this.....
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When I in my teen. I live in tampines, I forgot how much my father brought but maybe $70000 102m sq for a 3 room flat in 1987

Then I upgraded to est $140000 140m sq for a 5 rooms flat 1993.

The I downgraded to (open market )$ 370000 108 m sq for a 4 rooms flat 1999.

Recently my niece bought a flat est $220000 90m sq for 4 rooms.

Another one bought a flat est $190000 76m sq for 3 rooms.

The area has decrease significantly and the price has increase significantly over the year.... I dun think the means salary has increase that much?

MBT tell you that you have a 5 rooms but give you a 3 room area and charge you a 7 rooms price and singaporean BITE ????? !!!!!!! ????? !!!!!!! The only one who has pay increase on par with HDB price is the PAP MPs and ministera.


AND people still vote for PAP...

Recently LKY tell a stewardess she know what to do at next coming election because she got a flat in his estate ( My guess 90m sq for $300000)..

I think she smile because of her work and point her imaginary middle finger at him. HE IS THE REASON BOTH HER HUSBAND AND HER HAS TO WORK THEIER ASS OFF FOR THE NEXT 25 YEARS.


YOU KNOW WHAT TO DO AT NEXT COMING ELECTION WILL BE THE SLOGAN FOR NEXT COMING ELECTION. WAKE UP SINGAPOREAN
 
Still can but both must slog hard in their lifetime with little or no savings.
 
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