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Would you lockdown a country because of flu or pneumonia?

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The death rate from COVID-19 is about the same as from pneumonia. And people also die from flu.
Should a government lockdown the whole country, paralyze the economy, and put businesses and people out of work because of death from illnesses?

Quote: "This rate of 0.2 per cent is comparable to catching pneumonia, he told the House. Every year, before the pandemic, about 4,000 patients would die as a result of influenza, viral pneumonia and other respiratory diseases."

S'pore could see 2,000 Covid-19 deaths yearly; Govt using vaccines, boosters to stem spread: Janil​

Dr Janil Puthucheary said Singapore's Covid-19 death rate is one of the lowest in the world at 0.2 per cent.


Dr Janil Puthucheary said Singapore's Covid-19 death rate is one of the lowest in the world at 0.2 per cent.PHOTO: ST FILE
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Timothy Goh

Nov 2, 2021

SINGAPORE - Singapore could eventually see about 2,000 Covid-19 deaths a year despite the best possible medical care, most of whom will be the elderly and those already unwell.
On its part, the Government seeks to use a combination of high vaccination rates, booster jabs and natural immunity from mild infections to stop the disease from spreading as an epidemic here, said Senior Minister of State for Health Janil Puthucheary in Parliament on Monday (Nov 1).
Dr Janil said Singapore's Covid-19 death rate is one of the lowest in the world at 0.2 per cent, compared with 3 per cent or higher in countries that experienced a surge in cases before vaccination. The country has seen 407 deaths as at Sunday (Oct 31).
This rate of 0.2 per cent is comparable to catching pneumonia, he told the House. Every year, before the pandemic, about 4,000 patients would die as a result of influenza, viral pneumonia and other respiratory diseases.
Responding to queries from The Straits Times, the Ministry of Health said there were 4,153 deaths from pneumonia and influenza in 2020. This compares with 4,442 such deaths in 2019, 4,387 in 2018, 4,216 in 2017 and 3,856 in 2016.
Dr Janil said Singapore is trying hard to avoid "excess mortality" due to an inability to provide adequate medical care.



"In other words, though we will have fatalities as a result of Covid-19, we will not see more overall deaths that we would in a normal non-Covid year. Nearly every other country that has arrived at that destination has paid a high price, in lives," he said.
This is why despite saying that Singapore is living with Covid-19, the nation cannot simply open up and risk having the number of cases shoot up, he added.
"Because more and more cases will translate into more and more ICU beds used, and beyond a certain point that will force us to accept a lower standard of care, and hence have more deaths that could have been prevented," he said.
Resignation rates among healthcare workers going up: Janil Puthucheary

Up until recently, the absolute number of deaths here has been kept small by ensuring that few people caught Covid-19 and also that those who were infected got good treatment and care, he said.
"Now that we have to live with Covid-19, we will continue to protect people from getting infected through vaccination and safe management measures, but this protection is not complete. That is why much larger numbers will get infected," he said.
Over time, the absolute number of deaths from Covid-19 will rise despite the best possible medical care, he noted, possibly resulting in 2,000 deaths per year.

Dr Janil added: "We must make sure that everyone who is infected with Covid-19 will receive proper medical care by our healthcare workers and hospital system, and be given the best chance to fight the disease."
He said: "The current situation will not last forever. We will eventually come out of this. Eventually enough of us will be vaccinated or will have been infected, that we will see the case numbers come down and the situation stabilise. But in getting there we should try to keep the number of deaths as low as possible."
 

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With vaccinations, lockdowns are passe and all progressive countries have agreed they do nothing.

All countries should get 90% of their population vaccinated and then open up. Living with Covid as an endemic disease is the way forward. Life has to go on...
 

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SG shouldn't open up while fighting covid at its peak. half-fucked opening up with strict covid measures.
 

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Forum: A healthy perspective vital when looking at raw Covid-19 numbers​


NOV 11, 2021

I found Straits Times journalist Timothy Goh's report "S'pore could see 2,000 Covid-19 deaths yearly: Janil" (Nov 2) helpful in providing vital context for interpreting the number of Covid-19 deaths.
The constant reports on Covid-19 cases and deaths, without the background to understand the figures, may be affecting the mental health of many Singaporeans.
The projected figure of 2,000 deaths is half the annual number of fatalities due to influenza, viral pneumonia and other respiratory diseases.
There were 4,153 deaths from pneumonia and influenza last year.
Why were we not anxious about these deaths? We were not constantly focused on the average of 12 daily deaths.
The most severe pandemic in recent history, the 1918 influenza pandemic, saw some 50 million deaths globally even without air travel spreading the virus.

Let us maintain a healthy perspective that Covid-19, while a major concern, is not as bad as the raw numbers would seem to suggest. We will then have better mental health and resilience for the next inevitable pandemic.

Albert Tay Beng Guan
 

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What Happened: Dr. Jay Bhattacharya On 19 Months Of COVID​

interview with Jay Bhattacharya
Thursday, October 21, 2021


From the very beginning of the COVID-19 crisis, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya has been on the front lines of analyzing, studying, and even personally fighting the pandemic. In this wide-ranging interview, Dr. Bhattacharya takes us through how it started, how it spread throughout the world, the efficacy of lockdowns, the development and distribution of the vaccines, and the rise of the Delta variant. He delves into what we got right, what we got wrong, and what we got really wrong. Finally, Dr. Bhattacharya looks to the future and how we will learn to live with COVID rather than trying to extinguish it, and how we might be prepared to deal with another inevitable pandemic that we know will arrive at some point.
Recorded on October 13, 2021
 
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