Why GST for Medical & Education bill?

[makapaaa]

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If your answer is NO! Please read this, http://www.moh.gov.sg/mohcorp/mediaforums.aspx?id=12430
I have been in and out of hospital due to old age sickness, after studying the bill I notice that I'm Charged with with GST. I have no choice but to visit a hospital because I'm sick.
GST is a broad-based consumption tax levied on the import of goods, as well as nearly all supplies of goods and services in Singapore. The only exemptions are for the sales and leases of residential properties and most financial services.
Furthermore our 3 local varsity just increased their fees. (inclusive of prevailing GST?)
The increase was announced on Thursday in a press statement from NTU. Students entering non-business undergraduate courses will have to pay about four per cent more, while those in business programmes will have to pay almost seven per cent more.
<TABLE border=1 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR><TD style="FONT-SIZE: 12px" class=bodytext width="34%" align=middle>2010 Cohort</TD><TD style="FONT-SIZE: 12px" class=bodytext width="33%" align=middle>Fees for non-business programme (S$)</TD><TD style="FONT-SIZE: 12px" class=bodytext width="33%" align=middle>Fees for business programme (S$)</TD></TR><TR><TD style="FONT-SIZE: 12px" class=bodytext width="34%" align=middle>Singapore citizens</TD><TD style="FONT-SIZE: 12px" class=bodytext width="33%" align=middle>

6,890​

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7,490​

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Singapore PRs with tuition grant​

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8,270​

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8,990​

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11,030​

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11,990​

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NTU stated that its fee revision will not affect current students.

Removing GST on Medical and Education will help reduce the burden of rising cost.
What is ruling party's say on this?

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[makapaaa]

The FAPee TRAITORS mentioned before that 'it's costly and not practical' to differentiate the goods and services and these CCBs are the BEST PAID in the world. Yet in large functional countries, there's no GST on basic necessities, books, healthcare and education and their ministers are 'poorly paid'. Go figure. The next GE is really the only and last opportunity for Sporns to bring the FAPee TRAITORS to JUSTICE after a century of LEEGALIZED CORRUPTION and BETRAYAL of Sporns!

 

[Shi Jin]

Now you know why they made such a big issue out of education and healthcare :p

 

[Unrepented]

Should the question be "why collect GST from citizens for Med and Edu bills?" ?

I guess the reply will be "There is GST rebate given back to the tax payers".

 

[johnny333]

Yet in large functional countries, there's no GST on basic necessities, books, healthcare and education and their ministers are 'poorly paid'!

Which other gov't taxes its citizens on food & medicine

They claim GST is to help the poor Poor MPs

Vote for more opposition if you want to stop such PAP abuses.

 

[halsey02]

Which other gov't taxes its citizens on food & medicine

They claim GST is to help the poor Poor MPs

Vote for more opposition if you want to stop such PAP abuses.

Of course the GST is to help the POOR...the poor thing Minister's who have to give up their miilion dollars or billion dollars careers or business to serve you...and "cheaper, better & faster too"..

The are making a huge sacrifice....and they come with a bargain..so POOR thing, these minsters..

That is why the GSt was to help the POOR thing!

 

[Muthukali]

Again...............

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[halsey02]

Question is, is SINkingpore...YOUR SINGAPORE! the only country on this planet!, charges GST on Education & Medical?

I understand Canda doesn't...

and the highest paid HEAD OF STATE also!

 

[Unrepented]

In a nut shell;

1) every country needs money to run and administer the country

2) therefore need to tax the tax residents

3) if directly tax everyone with flat rate, lower income not happy because belief rich must kana tax more.

4) if direct progressive tax on rich, rich not happy and may not stay or invest

5) so strike balance, direct tax rate lowered to the extend just acceptable by all.

6) Supplement by indirect tax base on value and pattern of consumption lor. In theory, rich will spend more and on higher value goods and services. So more tax on them lor.

7) With total tax collected, spend on building infrastructure, training, etc. So poor also get to enjoy the benefits derived from the GST collected from the rich. That is where "Poor will also benefit from the rise in GST" (me think)

8) ok ok, poor complain some more. Ok give you all GST rebate.

9) Now, want reduced scope of GST, no want rise in income tax. So direct tax cannot go up (if up may not be attractive for the business, indirect tax also need to be reduced).

What is the solution? Say I am a voter sitting on the fence making a decision.......

If someone must take up an issue, have sufficient ammo and firepower.
The alternative or solution need not be perfect if an alternative party is presenting it (bec all know the restricted resources available to them) but must be at least cogently presented. Otherwise, all the lightning and thunder up front but wither into a small gust of wind against a wall.

Calls to vote this person out or that party out will ensure a better tomorrow? If life and this world is that simple. Voters are more interested in the "HOW?"

Pls don't flame me.... I am just sharing my thoughts. I too want my family, friends, relatives to have a good live.

To improve decision making, productivity etc. we do need checks and balances even in companies and businesses, to keep everyone alert and on their toes. Otherwise, there will be complacency and oversight in the processes leading to detrimental consequences. That is the reason for giving my 2cents here.

Which other gov't taxes its citizens on food & medicine

They claim GST is to help the poor Poor MPs

Vote for more opposition if you want to stop such PAP abuses.

 

[johnny333]

I'm a simple man so pardon if I got simple solution.


PAP must live within a budget & forget about the high life. No more multi-millionaire salaries for sons & daughters. Retirement means only one retirement pay, No director fees, no extra salary from here & there.

MPs should start paying taxes. Why should they get a free ride?

When you cut the number of politicans, pay, bonuses,... you reduce the $$$ needed. When you consider that LKY alone receives how many times Obamas pay, doesn't have to pay taxes, number of bodyguard,... You eliminate the MM you can help many poor.

Don't have to be a regional superpower. If you look at our neighbours they are cutting defence because priority goes to the peoples welfare. Time for Spore to follow the same. Can save billions by reducing $$$ on defence.

If Spore got friends no need to be the big bully of the region like Israel. The US, Australia, NZ,... are our friends & if Spore faces an external threat you can expect them to help another DEMOCRATIC country.

We got too many bright scholars wasting time thinking of ways to extract money from Sporeans. If you start cleaning up the mess in gov't these scholars can be freed to join the private sector & make millions.

The above can already save billions. PAP will have of course have to tighten their belts & start working but no one is forcing them to be in the gov't.

In a nut shell;

1) every country needs money to run and administer the country

2) therefore need to tax the tax residents

3) if directly tax everyone with flat rate, lower income not happy because belief rich must kana tax more.

4) if direct progressive tax on rich, rich not happy and may not stay or invest

5) so strike balance, direct tax rate lowered to the extend just acceptable by all.

6) Supplement by indirect tax base on value and pattern of consumption lor. In theory, rich will spend more and on higher value goods and services. So more tax on them lor.

7) With total tax collected, spend on building infrastructure, training, etc. So poor also get to enjoy the benefits derived from the GST collected from the rich. That is where "Poor will also benefit from the rise in GST" (me think)

8) ok ok, poor complain some more. Ok give you all GST rebate.

9) Now, want reduced scope of GST, no want rise in income tax. So direct tax cannot go up (if up may not be attractive for the business, indirect tax also need to be reduced).

What is the solution? Say I am a voter sitting on the fence making a decision.......

 

[Lord Imperious]

Nothing wrong with keeping things simple. In fact, the cabinet should be simplifed.