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Software used in 737 Max crashes linked to Indian software companies
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Through an investigative journalism work, Bloomberg published an article today (‘Boeing’s 737 Max Software Outsourced to $9-an-Hour Engineers‘, 29 Jun) establishing that the Boeing’s 737 Max software had been outsourced to Indian software engineers working for only US$9 an hour in India, compared with US$35 to $40 for those in the U.S. on H1B visa or more for a full-time US software engineer.

Bloomberg also found that Boeing’s subcontractors and suppliers were also outsourcing software work to India, in order to keep the cost down and to maximize profits.

Longtime Boeing engineers whom Bloomberg spoke to, revealed that the problematic Max software which was plagued by issues, was developed at a time Boeing was laying off experienced engineers and pressing suppliers to cut costs. Hence, there was a push to outsource work to lower-paid contractors. This led to the reliance on temporary workers making as little as US$9 an hour to develop and test software, often from countries lacking a deep background in aerospace – notably India.

Two Indian software companies were found by Bloomberg to be linked to the Max software development – HCL and Cyient (formerly known as Infotech). The coders from HCL were typically designing to specifications set by Boeing, said a former Boeing software engineer. Still, “it was controversial because it was far less efficient than Boeing engineers just writing the code,” he said. Frequently, “it took many rounds going back and forth because the code was not done correctly,” he recalled.

Another former Boeing engineer, a flight controls developer who was laid off in 2017, told Bloomberg, “Boeing was doing all kinds of things, everything you can imagine, to reduce cost, including moving work from Puget Sound, because we’d become very expensive here. All that’s very understandable if you think of it from a business perspective. Slowly over time it appears that’s eroded the ability for Puget Sound designers to design.”

Outsourcing has long been a sore point for Boeing engineers, who, in addition to fearing job losses say it has led to communications issues and mistakes.

Boeing: HCL and Cyient not involved

In response to Bloomberg’s enquiry, Boeing said that it did not rely on engineers from HCL and Cyient “for the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System”, which has been linked to the Lion Air crash last October and the Ethiopian Airlines disaster in March, both involving the 737 Max planes. Boeing claimed it didn’t rely on either firm for another software issue disclosed after the crashes: a cockpit warning light that wasn’t working for most buyers.

“Boeing has many decades of experience working with supplier/partners around the world,” Boeing said. “Our primary focus is on always ensuring that our products and services are safe, of the highest quality and comply with all applicable regulations.”

In a statement, HCL added that it “has a strong and long-standing business relationship with The Boeing Company, and we take pride in the work we do for all our customers. However, HCL does not comment on specific work we do for our customers. HCL is not associated with any ongoing issues with 737 Max.”

HCL linked to Max’s flight-display software

However, investigations from Bloomberg revealed that, based on resumes posted on social media, HCL engineers had helped develop and test the Max’s flight-display software, while employees from Cyient handled software for flight-test equipment.

In one post, an HCL employee summarized his duties with a reference to the now-infamous 737 Max model, which started flight tests in January 2016, “Provided quick workaround to resolve production issue which resulted in not delaying flight test of 737-Max (delay in each flight test will cost very big amount for Boeing).”

Also, Bloomberg found out that a Boeing’s subcontractor, Rockwell Collins, which makes cockpit electronics, had been outsourcing significant work to India. By 2010, HCL employed more than 400 people at design, development and verification centers for Rockwell Collins in Chennai and Bangalore.

That same year, Boeing opened what it called a “center of excellence” with HCL in Chennai, saying the companies would partner “to create software critical for flight test.”

Rockwell Collins won the Max contract for cockpit displays, and it has relied in part on HCL engineers in India as well as those in the U.S. on H1B visa. Then, contract engineers from Cyient helped test the flight test equipment.

With regard to the 2 crashes, federal investigators suspected that the 737 Max MCAS system pushed the planes into uncontrollable dives because of bad data from a single sensor. That design violated basic principles of redundancy for generations of Boeing engineers, and the company apparently never tested to see how the software would respond, sources told Bloomberg.

Boeing also has disclosed that it learned soon after Max deliveries began in 2017 that a warning light that might have alerted crews to the issue with the sensor wasn’t installed correctly in the cockpit flight-display software.

Singapore’s SGX outsources to HCL too

In 2010, the Singapore Exchange (SGX) and HCL signed a five-year IT infrastructure outsourcing agreement worth S$110 million.

Under the agreement, HCL provided SGX with infrastructure support and management services including the exchange’s Reach initiative. The S$250 million Reach initiative was aimed to create the “world’s fastest trading engine, establish a state-of-the-art data centre” offering co-location facilities and seamlessly connect trading communities in global financial hubs to Singapore.

HCL said its architecture for SGX is powered by a dynamic two-pronged strategy comprising ‘Change the Business’ and ‘Run the Business’ services.

Then Mr Bob Caisley, EVP and CIO at SGX said, “HCL is an important partner for SGX in enabling the Reach initiative to provide customers with the fastest access to Asia, and in enhancing the efficiency and effectiveness of our operations on a daily basis. The implementation of Reach will ensure that SGX’s position as a leading listing venue for international issuers and the unparalleled trading venue for Asian products is fortified and future-proofed.”

Mr Kiran Bhagwanani of HCL said, “It is our privilege to be associated with SGX as it continues to improve its customer offerings. Our aim is to enable transformation of data centre and network operations at SGX to bring in enhanced efficiency and clear business benefits.”

Five years later in 2015, Bob Caisley quietly left SGX. His departure came after SGX suffered 2 serious trading disruptions late in 2014 and was rebuked by the Monetary Authority of Singapore (‘MAS raps SGX for market outage lapses‘).

The outages were said to have been caused by a software error and a power failure as SGX grappled with falling trading volume.

Meanwhile, under India–Singapore Comprehensive Economic Cooperation Agreement (CECA), Singapore welcomes Indian software companies to “invest” in Singapore even though they mostly employ their own Indian software engineers from India. The engineers can be transferred to work in Singapore easily under the inter-company transfer arrangements agreed in CECA without the need for market testing.
 
Boeing Outsourced Its 737 MAX Software To $9-Per-Hour Engineers
The software at the heart of the Boeing 737 MAX crisis was developed at a time when the company was laying off experienced engineers and replacing them with temporary workers making as little as $9 per hour, according to Bloomberg.

In an effort to cut costs, Boeing was relying on subcontractors making paltry wages to develop and test its software. Often times, these subcontractors would be from countries lacking a deep background in aerospace, like India.

Boeing had recent college graduates working for Indian software developer HCL Technologies Ltd. in a building across from Seattle's Boeing Field, in flight test groups supporting the MAX. The coders from HCL designed to specifications set by Boeing but, according to Mark Rabin, a former Boeing software engineer, “it was controversial because it was far less efficient than Boeing engineers just writing the code.”

Rabin said: “...it took many rounds going back and forth because the code was not done correctly.”

Boeing CEO Expects 737 Max to Return to Service This Year


In addition to cutting costs, the hiring of Indian companies may have landed Boeing orders for the Indian military and commercial aircraft, like a $22 billion order received in January 2017. That order included 100 737 MAX 8 jets and was Boeing’s largest order ever from an Indian airline. India traditionally orders from Airbus.

HCL engineers helped develop and test the 737 MAX's flight display software while employees from another Indian company, Cyient Ltd, handled the software for flight test equipment. In 2011, Boeing named Cyient, then known as Infotech, to a list of its “suppliers of the year”.

One HCL employee posted online: “Provided quick workaround to resolve production issue which resulted in not delaying flight test of 737-Max(delay in each flight test will cost very big amount for Boeing).”

But Boeing says the company didn’t rely on engineers from HCL for the Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System, which was linked to both last October's crash and March's crash. The company also says it didn’t rely on Indian companies for the cockpit warning light issue that was disclosed after the crashes.



A Boeing spokesperson said: “Boeing has many decades of experience working with supplier/partners around the world. Our primary focus is on always ensuring that our products and services are safe, of the highest quality and comply with all applicable regulations.”

HCL, on the other hand, said: "HCL has a strong and long-standing business relationship with The Boeing Company, and we take pride in the work we do for all our customers. However, HCL does not comment on specific work we do for our customers. HCL is not associated with any ongoing issues with 737 Max.”

Recent simulator tests run by the FAA indicate that software issues on the 737 MAX run deeper than first thought. Engineers who worked on the plane, which Boeing started developing eight years ago, complained of pressure from managers to limit changes that might introduce extra time or cost.

Rick Ludtke, a former Boeing flight controls engineer laid off in 2017, said: “Boeing was doing all kinds of things, everything you can imagine, to reduce cost, including moving work from Puget Sound, because we’d become very expensive here. All that’s very understandable if you think of it from a business perspective. Slowly over time it appears that’s eroded the ability for Puget Sound designers to design.”

Rabin even recalled an incident where senior software engineers were told they weren't needed because Boeing's productions were mature. Rabin said: “I was shocked that in a room full of a couple hundred mostly senior engineers we were being told that we weren’t needed.”



Any given jetliner is made up of millions of parts and millions of lines of code. Boeing has often turned over large portions of the work to suppliers and subcontractors that follow its blueprints. But beginning in 2004 with the 787 Dreamliner, Boeing sought to increase profits by providing high-level specs and then asking suppliers to design more parts themselves.

Boeing also promised to invest $1.7 billion in Indian companies as a result of an $11 billion order in 2005 from Air India. This investment helped HCL and other software developers.

For the 787, HCL offered a price to Boeing that they couldn't refuse, either: free. HCL "took no up-front payments on the 787 and only started collecting payments based on sales years later".

Rockwell Collins won the MAX contract for cockpit displays and relied in part on HCL engineers and contract engineers from Cyient to test flight test equipment.

Charles LoveJoy, a former flight-test instrumentation design engineer at the company, said: “We did have our challenges with the India team. They met the requirements, per se, but you could do it better.”
 
Press Release in 2005
For immediate release
HCL signs Software Development Agreement with Boeing for the 787 Dreamliner program
Noida, February 8, 2005: HCL Technologies (HCL), a leading global IT and Product engineering solutions provider, today announced that it has been selected by The Boeing Company (Boeing) as a software development partner for the 787 Dreamliner (formerly known as the 7E7) program. A multi- year, multi-million dollar software development agreement has signed between Boeing and HCL.
Under this contract HCL will provide software services to Boeing as well as its Tier 1 systems suppliers for the 787 program, which opens a new chapter in HCL’s aerospace services practice. The 787 integrates diverse leading edge technologies to deliver an environmentally preferred solution with hitherto unmatched efficiency, for medium capacity long-range aircraft.
HCL has initiated several projects relating to this program and is currently working on providing a hosting platform for the flight test computing system. In addition, HCL engineers are working at a systems requirements definition level for some of the Line Replaceable Units (LRU’s) with some of Boeing’s Tier 1 systems suppliers for the 787 program.
Commenting on the development, Mr. Shiv Nadar, Chairman & CEO, HCL Technologies, said, “We consider it a great privilege to be working on the critical aspects of the Boeing 787 Dreamliner. HCL was chosen after a significant due diligence, by the Boeing team from amongst several potential suppliers. Our selection endorses the fact that HCL’s inherent capabilities are robust enough to contribute effectively to such mission critical systems, and further consolidates our position as India's leading Aerospace product-engineering services organization."
Under the agreement signed with Boeing, HCL will provide services in the areas of software & hardware development, as well as verification & validation, to Boeing and their Tier 1 systems suppliers for the 787 program.
Aerospace being one of HCL’s key verticals the signing of this landmark agreement augments HCL’s existing position as the leading aerospace software and hardware services supplier from India, and will firmly position HCL in the list of preferred services providers to the Aerospace industry worldwide.
The HCL aerospace vertical has been in operation since the late 1990s. HCL engineers have strong domain expertise across the entire product lifecycle, in safety and mission critical real time avionics systems - both airborne avionics systems and ground-based systems. HCL has also demonstrated its software and hardware development capability, complying with safety and airworthiness requirements as per stringent aerospace and military standards. Currently HCL counts several global leaders in aerospace amongst its key customers, to whom it provides services in hardware, embedded software, CAD/CAE and application development, and has a long-standing relationship with them, based on proven expertise and solutions delivery. HCL is the first organization in India with SAE AS 9100 certification, which are the globally accepted quality system requirements for suppliers to the aerospace industry.
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About HCL Enterprise
HCL Enterprise is one of the leading Global Technology and IT enterprises with annual revenues of around $2.0 billion, with IT Products and Services contributing to revenues of $1.1 billion. The HCL enterprise comprises of two companies listed in India, HCL Technologies & HCL Infosystems . The 29 year old group founded in 1976, is one of India’s original IT garage start up companies. Its range of offerings span Product Engineering, Technology and Application Services, BPO, Infrastructure Services, IT Hardware, Systems Integration, and distribution of technology and telecom products. The HCL team comprises 24,000 professionals of diverse nationalities, who operate from over 26 offices across 15 countries including 170 offices in India. HCL has global partnerships with several leading Fortune 1000 firms, including several IT and Technology majors.
About HCL Technologies
HCL Technologies is one of India’s leading global IT services company, providing software- led IT solutions, BPO and infrastructure management services. Making a foray into the services domain in 1997-98, HCL Technologies focuses on technology and R&D outsourcing, working with clients in areas at the core of their business. The company leverages an extensive offshore infrastructure and its global network of 26 offices in 15 countries to deliver solutions across select verticals including Banking, Insurance, Retail & Consumer, Aerospace, Automotive, Semiconductors, Telecom and Life Sciences. For the twelve month period ended 31st December 2004, HCL Technologies along with its subsidiaries had revenues of $ 664 million and 20,249 employees. For more information, please visit www.hcltech.com
About The Boeing Company
Boeing is the world’s largest aerospace company, with customers in 145 countries and suppliers and partners worldwide. It is a global leader in commercial jetliners, military aircraft, satellites, launch services, human space flight, missile defense, moving-platform connectivity, and network-centric solutions for defense and homeland security.
Forward Looking Statements
Certain statements in this release are forward-looking statements, which involve a number of risks, and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those in such forward-looking statements. The risks and uncertainties relating to these statements include, but are not limited to, risks and uncertainties regarding fluctuations in earnings, our ability to manage growth, intense competition in IT services including those factors which may affect our cost advantage, wage increases in India, our ability to attract and retain highly skilled professionals, time and cost overruns on fixed-price, fixed-time frame contracts, client concentration, restrictions on immigration, our ability to manage our international operations, reduced demand for technology in our key focus areas, disruptions in telecommunication networks, our ability to successfully complete and integrate potential acquisitions, liability for damages on our service contracts, the success of the companies/ entities in which we have made strategic investments, withdrawal of governmental fiscal incentives, political instability, legal restrictions on raising capital or acquiring companies outside India, and unauthorized use of our intellectual property and general economic conditions affecting our industry. The company does not undertake to update any forward-looking statement that may be made from time to time by or on behalf of the company.
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HCL Technologies Ltd, A 10-11, Sector-III, NOIDA-201301, India.
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Who developed the Boeing 737 Max’s flawed software? Low-paid temp workers and recent college grads, according to report
June 30, 2019
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As the Department of Justice reportedly expands the scope of its investigation into Boeing from the 737 Max to the 787 Dreamliner, Boeing engineers are reporting another miscalculation inside the beleaguered airline company.

Bloomberg’s Peter Robison reported on June 28 that Boeing and its suppliers outsourced some of its 737 Max software development and testing to temporary workers. These temp workers, some of whom were recent college graduates, were employees or contract workers for Indian tech firms HCL Technologies and Cyient Ltd.

Some of the testers and developers made as little as $9, the longtime engineers told Bloomberg. Former Boeing flight controls engineer Rick Ludtke said the move to outsource was centered on cost-cutting.

“Boeing was doing all kinds of things, everything you can imagine, to reduce cost, including moving work from Puget Sound, because we’d become very expensive here,” Ludtke told Bloomberg. “All that’s very understandable if you think of it from a business perspective. Slowly over time it appears that’s eroded the ability for Puget Sound designers to design.”

Faulty software on the Boeing 737 Max has seemingly contributed to two fatal crashes, which killed 346 people between October and March. The 737 Max was grounded around the world after the March crash, leading Boeing to a first-quarter loss of $1 billion.
Read more: American Airlines just ordered 50 new Airbus planes – and it’s a huge blow to Boeing

Former Boeing software engineer Mark Rabin told Bloomberg that a manager said at an all-hands meeting that senior engineers were no longer required at the company.

“I was shocked that in a room full of a couple hundred mostly senior engineers we were being told that we weren’t needed,” Rabin told Bloomberg.

However, Rabin said the code was often “not done correctly” and that a lot of “back and forth” was required to get the code accurate. The coders from HCL were working to specifications established from Boeing engineers.

A Boeing spokesperson told Bloomberg that safety is always the primary focus, including when working with outside partners.

“Boeing has many decades of experience working with supplier/partners around the world,” the spokesman said. “Our primary focus is on always ensuring that our products and services are safe, of the highest quality and comply with all applicable regulations.”
 
Bloomberg reports [Boeing’s 737 Max Software Outsourced to $9-an-Hour Engineers](Boeing’s 737 Max Software Outsourced to $9-an-Hour Engineers)

It remains the mystery at the heart of Boeing Co.’s 737 Max crisis: how a company renowned for meticulous design made seemingly basic software mistakes leading to a pair of deadly crashes. Longtime Boeing engineers say the effort was complicated by a push to outsource work to lower-paid contractors.
The Max software -- plagued by issues that could keep the planes grounded months longer after U.S. regulators this week revealed a new flaw -- was developed at a time Boeing was laying off experienced engineers and pressing suppliers to cut costs.
Increasingly, the iconic American planemaker and its subcontractors have relied on temporary workers making as little as $9 an hour to develop and test software, often from countries lacking a deep background in aerospace -- notably India.
In offices across from Seattle’s Boeing Field, recent college graduates employed by the Indian software developer HCL Technologies Ltd. occupied several rows of desks, said Mark Rabin, a former Boeing software engineer who worked in a flight-test group that supported the Max.
The coders from HCL were typically designing to specifications set by Boeing. Still, “it was controversial because it was far less efficient than Boeing engineers just writing the code,” Rabin said. Frequently, he recalled, “it took many rounds going back and forth because the code was not done correctly.”​
 
It won't be just problem with only 1 737 MAX model thus!

It will be EVERY MODEL! MAGA!
 
wow. thanks for the exposee.

1st Chinese hardware crap killing people. Now Indian software crap killing people. All for some stupid $ savings. Boeing should be sued till pants drop.

Perfect storm if they cooperate with Indian software running Chinese hardware.
 
Thats typical ang moh trying to lay the blame on others.
Who was in charge of max project. He should be fired. I am sure he is not a indian.
Sorry. Project manager should be charged for manslaughter snd criminal negligent. If VW was fined tens of billions for rigged software to lower emission during tests, boeing should be similarly charged.
 
Thats typical ang moh trying to lay the blame on others.
Who was in charge of max project. He should be fired. I am sure he is not a indian.
Sorry. Project manager should be charged for manslaughter snd criminal negligent. If VW was fined tens of billions for rigged software to lower emission during tests, boeing should be similarly charged.
agree, except that whoever did boeing should do jail time at the very minimum for negligent manslaughter.
 
Another biggest lies from chao angmoh putting blames on another country, India. This new plane was exact replica of old oge except for the engine...

John 8:32 ye shal know the truth, the truth shall set you free....

 
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