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Why America is afraid of China

TeeKee

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Many atheists claim that religion is evil and, as such, cannot be from God. It is true that there are many examples of evil committed in the name of Christianity. In the past, those who disagreed with "official" church doctrine, such as Galileo were persecuted or killed. Many other Christians were brought before the Inquisition because they were teaching from the Bible instead of from "officially sanctioned" Roman Catholic Church materials. In addition, the Crusades resulted in "holy" wars between "Christians," Jews, and Moslems. In more modern times, wars have been fought between Catholics and Protestants in Northern Ireland and between Jews and Arabs in the Middle East. However, common to all this violence was an underlying struggle for power. Today, some people kill abortionists in the name of God. Are these people unwilling pawns of religion or using religion to justify their own evil agendas?
History of human atrocities

Therefore, I absolutely agree with atheists and others who say that many atrocious things have been done in the name of God, and even in the name of Christianity. However, these atrocities were not perpetrated by God, but by evil human beings. If we look at the history of democide (which includes genocide, politicide, and mass murder, but not war-dead) prior to the 20th century, we find that millions of people were killed by people groups who wanted the other people groups eliminated. Note that these numbers do not include those killed through wars.

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What percentage of these killings were due to religious democide? It is less than 3% of the totals. The surprising thing is that these killings occurred during a period of time when virtually all the peoples of the world were involved in some sort of religion. Here is the data for the 20th century:

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Vox Day, in The Irrational Atheist, lists 22 atheistic regimes that committed 153,368,610 murders in the 20th century alone:

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What percentage of this democide was due to religious conflict? It turns out that religious democide doesn't even make the top 20 (although I am sure there is some in the "lesser murderers" category. Still, the total religious killings is less than 2%. In fact, the top two killers were specifically atheistic states (which had never existed before in human history). Should atheism be blamed for more than 50% of the atrocities committed during the 20th century? The answer of course is No! If one examines the nature of the regimes that committed these atrocities (even the religious ones), the key factor is absolute power (see Figure 1, right). According to Professor R.J. Rummel, in the 1816-2005 period there were 205 wars between non-democracies, 166 wars between non-democracies and democracies, and 0 wars between democracies. Lord Acton's warning that "power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely" seems to be more than just a trite saying.
What about Christians who commit evil?

Jesus Himself addressed the issue of "Christians," performing evil deeds in a rather chilling prophecy:

"Many will say to Me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?' And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.'" (Matthew 7:22-23)

One should note that Jesus said that "many" people who think they are His followers will be rejected by Jesus when at the judgment when they attempt to claim that they are His disciples. Not all who claim the name of Jesus are actually His disciples. My guess is that in even the best of Christian churches only about half of the people have been truly born again (see John chapter 3).1 Christianity should be judged on the basis of what Jesus said and did, not on the basis of the actions of people who merely claim to be Christians. Foxe's Book of Martyrs details the deaths of Christians who were killed because of their faith in Christ, in many cases by people claiming to be Christians.
How do you know if a person is a Christian or not?

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We cannot know for certain whether a person is or is not a true Christian (only God can makes such a determination).2 However, the Bible describes the nature of a person who is indwelt by the Holy Spirit3 (which happens at the point a person accept Jesus as Lord and Savior):

But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control. Against such things there is no law. (Galatians 5:22-23)

In addition, the true believer does what is right and demonstrates love toward others.4 Even non-believers can readily see who the true Christians are. Ultimately, the behavior of those who claim to be Christians but practice evil should not be a consideration in determining if the claims of Christ are true or not.
Conclusion

Yes, "Christians" have committed atrocities against other religious and non-religious people. However, atheists have committed far more atrocities than all religious groups combined. Even so, the key factor in these atrocities has been totalitarian power, rather than religion, which has resulted in these hundreds of millions of murders. The Bible says that people are evil (and the statistics on this page support this claim), but that they can become transformed through the power of the Holy Spirit to live lives of love, joy and peace.
 

TeeKee

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Who says they are . Anyway it's just the ruling party in USA !

I think Hu will have a hard time making China a social harmonious place with a no God believing population with a totalitarian regime.

The world next greatest tragedies will involve China by looking at the statistics.
 

Watchman

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Religion is mainly a widespread belief to calm the public masses exploiting the compassionate nature of men .

Religion minimize public hysteria and riots .
 

TeeKee

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Religion is mainly a widespread belief to calm the public masses exploiting the compassionate nature of men .

Religion minimize public hysteria and riots .

Atheist & Totalitarian regime provides the most lethal combination.

That will cause great harm to itself...:biggrin:
 

Frankiestine

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Americans are afraid of the Chinese because if the Chinese decides to let all the PRC mei loose on them...the entire American continent will be drown in pussy juice...
 

singveld

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these evil people are more religious than you. so being closer to your god mean becoming more evil, then you are getting there too.
 

commoner

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haha,,,,,,,, did anyone actually questions the figures?

from 221BC to 19BC, democide of China is 33,519,000,,,, not 33520,000 or 33,518,000,,,,

how do they supposedly to get the numbers, and who states who is an atheist or not,,,


is Stalin an atheist? so if the one commits the democide is a "christian", but then again

In addition, the true believer does what is right and demonstrates love toward others.4 Even non-believers can readily see who the true Christians are. Ultimately, the behavior of those who claim to be Christians but practice evil should not be a consideration in determining if the claims of Christ are true or not.

so it is not considered christian,,,,, how marvellous,,,,,

people do forget the "christian" GOD commits genocide in His heydays as stated in his Old Testament......
 

TeeKee

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these evil people are more religious than you. so being closer to your god mean becoming more evil, then you are getting there too.

you are confused....Jesus stands for love not evil...

evil comes from our sins, and are associated with SATAN..

anything that is not from Jesus is with SATAN...i.e. everything else the world everybody are pursuing now, it's very easy to go to the dark side.......:biggrin:
 

TeeKee

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haha,,,,,,,, did anyone actually questions the figures?

yes do questions, even better, do your own figures, the overall results points to the same thing...:biggrin:

like those physicists, after spending billions of taxpayers monies trying to find out the creator of the Universe is none other than God...:smile:

while at the same time 1 billion of people going hungry now even as we are speaking...:(
 
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