Which universities will really impress the boss?

[yinyang]

Which universities will really impress the boss?
By Sean Coughlan BBC News education and family correspondent

• 12 September 2018

The graduations are over but which are the best universities for job hunters?

What's the best university name in the world to put on a job application?
It's the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) in the US, according to an international league table for how much universities are likely to boost the future careers of graduates.

The Graduate Employability Rankings, based on the views of 42,000 employers, shows the universities most likely to impress graduate recruiters.
The league table is produced by the QS group that publishes the annual World University Rankings - and reflects that students are considering future job prospects as well as academic achievement.
Employers were asked where they recruit their most "competent, innovative and effective" graduates.
The rankings also take into account employment statistics for former students, where high-flying graduates in top jobs studied and the range of partnerships between universities and employers.

Polishing the CV
US universities take the top four places, with MIT, Stanford, University of California, Los Angeles (UCLA), and Harvard, whose graduates are seen as the most sought after.

MIT has been ranked as the university most likely to impress employers

MIT is known for its high status in technology and innovation and can claim former students such as the astronaut Buzz Aldrin, former UN secretary-general Kofi Annan who died last month, and Amar Bose, the sound engineer and billionaire founder of the audio equipment firm.
Stanford, in second place, has been the academic cradle of much Silicon Valley technology research, with former students including Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin and Netflix founder Reed Hastings.


This league table shows Australia's rise in employability, with the University of Sydney and the University of Melbourne in fifth and sixth places.
Neither university is in the top 30 in the equivalent academic league table, the World University Rankings, but they are seen as high-flyers for the jobs market.


Competing for jobs
Ben Sowter, research director at QS, said that universities which have big global research reputations are not necessarily "those that do most to nurture student employability".
He said that the cost of tuition fees and a competitive jobs market meant that students were increasingly "concerned about the likelihood that their prospective university will help them thrive afterwards".

Tsinghua University in China is now one of the most employer-friendly universities

Cambridge is the highest UK-ranked university in seventh place, with Oxford in 10th. University College London is in 18th place.
On the strength of their reputations with employers, Cambridge and Oxford were the highest rated. But UK universities slipped back on partnerships with employers and graduate employment rates.


The economic rise of China is reflected in Tsinghua University taking ninth place and the University of Peking appears in 20th place.
From the top 500 universities for employability, 102 are from Asia, catching up on 144 from Western Europe. The United States has 83 universities in the top 500, including 13 of the top 30.

Cambridge is ranked as best for jobs in the UK

Top 30 for employability

1. Massachusetts Institute of Technology, US
2. Stanford University, US
3. University of California, Los Angeles, US
4. Harvard University, US
5. University of Sydney, Australia
6. University of Melbourne, Australia
7. University of Cambridge, UK
8. University of California, Berkeley, US
9. Tsinghua University, China
10. University of Oxford, UK
11. New York University, US
12. University of Toronto, Canada
13. University of Hong Kong, Hong Kong
14. Yale University, US
15. ETH Zurich, Switzerland
16. Princeton University, US
17. Columbia University, US
18. University College London, UK
19. University of Tokyo, Japan
20. Peking University, China
21. Cornell University, US
22. University of Chicago, US
23. Seoul National University, South Korea
24. University of Pennsylvania, US
25. University of Michigan, US
26. (equal 25th) University of Waterloo, Canada
27. Fudan University, China
28. Waseda University, Japan
29. University of New South Wales, Australia
30. Ecole Polytechnique, France

 

[AhMeng]

Not a single sinkie uni in the list

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Not a single sinkie uni in the list

Even uni of HK better than singkieland uni

 

[po2wq]

how can sinkielan u not inside list? ... list muz b from dubious sos 4 sure ...

 

[frenchbriefs]

Funny the Australian unis are ranked.but I digress,in edmw they tell u NUS is the best!!!

 

[borom]

In Singapore, Southern Pacific University ranked first, followed by any Indian Universities, any Chinese Universities and then any Pinoy Universities.
I come to this conclusion based on the huge number of Indian nationals , PRC Chinese and Pinoys working here.
They must be ranked higher than Harvard ,Stanford, MIT, Oxford, Cambridge, Tokyo University ect2 as I rarely see any graduates form these universities here.

 

[AhMeng]

In Singapore, Southern Pacific University ranked first, followed by any Indian Universities, any Chinese Universities and then any Pinoy Universities.
I come to this conclusion based on the huge number of Indian nationals , PRC Chinese and Pinoys working here.
They must be ranked higher than Harvard ,Stanford, MIT, Oxford, Cambridge, Tokyo University ect2 as I rarely see any graduates form these universities here.

Lol, I agree absolutely. I have added to your points!

 

[zhihau]

A full scale study into the absence of any Sinkiestani University in this list shall be launched. How else to claim that Sinkiestan has the best education system in the world?

 

[po2wq]

sinkielan universities now haf ze unenviable distinction of top universities wif top unemployability ...

despite having colorful, glossy facades, sharp i-d, down 2 earth bosses noe dey r rotten inside ...

 

[winnipegjets]

Ah Tiong university #9, University of HK #13 ....NUS ?????

How much money we spent on foreigners to work in NUS and they cannot bring us any glory?

 

[halsey02]

Ah Tiong university #9, University of HK #13 ....NUS ?????

How much money we spent on foreigners to work in NUS and they cannot bring us any glory?

Most likely fake lists compiled by a PRC, sure? so many Chinese Universities in that list? how about those in ROC or even Stinkerpore NANTAH? NUS ? fake news...NUS IS THE BEST.

 

[AhMeng]

Ah Tiong university #9, University of HK #13 ....NUS ?????

How much money we spent on foreigners to work in NUS and they cannot bring us any glory?

Please not...Tsinghua is the top uni in ATB land. My ATB girlfriend is from there! Please don't compare those crappy sinkie unis with Tsinghua. Lol

 

[halsey02]

Please not...Tsinghua is the top uni in ATB land. My ATB girlfriend is from there! Please don't compare those crappy sinkie unis with Tsinghua. Lol

Why does your ATB girl friend work as , with that prestigious qualification from Tsinghua? Not 'greasing poles' I hope?

 

[AhMeng]

Why does your ATB girl friend work as , with that prestigious qualification from Tsinghua? Not 'greasing poles' I hope?

Lol she's more intelligent / wealthier than me. Already made it to the top in her career at 35 while I was nowhere near the top when I was at 35

 

[yinyang]

Thought this was an interesting related read on U experience over the years. From Oasis music to mobile phones then

A-levels and what to do next: How university life has changed since 1997
By Christian HewgillBBC

Hamant Verma, Chinelo Awa and Lauren Taylor who went to uni in 1997, 2007 and 2017

One of life's most exciting moments? Or downright terrifying?
For thousands of A-level students opening their results today, university will be on their minds.
The uni experience has changed a lot in the past 20 years, most notably with the introduction of tuition fees across the UK in 1998.
Newsbeat's been speaking to three students who started uni in 1997, 2007 and 2017.
What's changed over the decades? What's stayed strangely similar? And if you're going, what should you expect from university life?

1997

Liam Gallagher, arguably at the height of Oasis's fame in 1997

It was a year of Tony Blair's New Labour and Britpop on the radio. Men In Black and Titanic were on the big screen.
As students started uni in September Elton John was number one with Candle in the Wind. He'd recorded a version of the song in tribute to Princess Diana, who was killed in a car crash in August

Hamant Verma, now 39, started at Leicester's De Montfort University in 1997.
On day one he borrowed £20 from his dad to take the person in the room opposite for a drink.
That could probably have bought the whole block a pint back then.

Changing times, changing phones: Hamant's 1997 Nokia N5110, Chineo's Nokia N97 from 2007
and Lauren's iPhone 7 from 2017

If you're off to uni this year, your experience will have a soundtrack you look back on. Hamant remembers a lot of Oasis, Blur, R&B and bhangra.
If you were discussing politics in bars or lecture theatres, it was a different time but some topics will sound familiar.
"Russia was no longer a big threat, China hadn't really emerged. So there was talk about the EU, and why it was a good thing," he explains.
"Stopping wars, working together on things like the environment.
"It was seen as something positive and quite cool to be part of all these nations."

Tony Blair at the start of his successful 1997 election campaign
Money is never far from campus conversation, but financially Hamant had fewer worries than today's students.
"You didn't pay tuition fees, you had a maintenance grant and banks were throwing overdrafts at you.
"You could enjoy the social experience more than now."

The internet may seem like it's been around forever, but the web and mobiles were just warming up 20 years ago.
"We weren't sure if we could trust what we were reading," Hamant says.
"You were still having to go to the library and read through books. Having no IT skills wasn't a great stress."
Facebook wasn't online until 2004 and Twitter came along two years after that.
Texting was becoming more common, but at 10p a text Hamant recalls arranging to meet at a specific place and time more often than he does now.

 

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2007

Chinelo Awa initially struggled to settle at University of Hull, but after making friends they all figured out uni life together

Fast forward to 2007 and it was Spiderman 3 and the Transformers doing battle in the cinemas, while Sean Kingston was singing about Beautiful Girls. What a time for music.

Sean was top of the Official Chart when international student Chinelo Awa, now 30, arrived from Nigeria to study commercial law in Hull. But the first song she heard in the UK was by the Scissor Sisters.

"Bashment was also reigning at the time," she tells Newsbeat. "All this skanking, I feel so old saying that!

"Dancehall music was popular too, and we had that guy who sung Superman, Soulja Boy!"

Chinelo says I Don't Feel Like Dancing was on the radio constantly in 2007

People queuing outside a Northern Rock at the height of the banking crisis in 2007

Money dominated the news and cash had become a bigger worry in more ways than one.

"It was all, 'The economy, will it or won't it crash?' Then of course by 2008 it all happened," Chinelo remembers.

"There were a lot of people saying 'This is such an unfortunate time for you to be approaching graduation'."

By this point students had to pay tuition fees to study.

In 1998, you'd pay a maximum of £1,000 a year. That tripled in 2006 to a maximum of £3,000, and rose again in 2012 to £9,000.

As a foreign student, Chinelo was paying around £7,000 a year in 2007.

As for texting friends - WhatsApp didn't exist in 2007 so you'd need a text bundle from your mobile phone company.

"I got 300 texts," Chinelo says.

"Landline bundles were really popular too. Between 10am and 6pm you could call free for an hour, so you'd hang up every 59 minutes."

 

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How do tuition fees work around the UK?

• Universities can charge up to £9,250 per year
• Students do not pay this up front, but can borrow the full amount
• They can also take a loan for living costs
• Disadvantaged students can borrow more for living costs, on the assumption that better-off students are supported by their parents
• Interest of up to 6.1% is charged on loans from when students start at university
• Students begin to repay loans once they earn £21,000, with this threshold being raised to £25,000
• Any unpaid debts are written off after 30 years
• In Scotland's universities, there are no fees for Scottish students
• In Northern Ireland, fees are up to £4,030
• In Wales, fees are up to £9,000 with plans for higher levels of maintenance support

 

[yinyang]

2017

Lauren Taylor at the University of Lincoln

For the class of 2017 and probably 2018 too, it's the era of grime, rap and hip-hop, according to Lauren Taylor.

The 19-year-old started studying media production last year.

She and her mates listen to Cardi B, Drake and Kanye. Taylor Swift was number one on her first day and they love 90s and 2000s club nights.

Star Wars: The Last Jedi was the most popular film in cinemas in 2017

Like Hamant did 20 years ago, Lauren and her mates talk about the EU a lot.

"You would think people our age aren't really invested in Brexit, but we are.

"The majority of people my age wanted to remain. We felt we'd get more trading opportunities and be able to find more jobs abroad.

"My tuition fees cost £9,250 and my rent last year was £5,155.

"Last year I had a maintenance loan of £7,000 so I had enough to live on, but I did still struggle with the price of food.

"It's hard as I know I'm going to be in so much debt but I think it's worth it and my course is value for money."

Debt has become more of a worry for today's students

Life after uni
Chinelo says university was the best opportunity of her life. She now combines running a cake business with working in construction law.

Hamant works in finance and loved exploring Leicester. Lauren still has another two years in Lincoln to go.

"So far its been a rollercoaster with some amazing highs," she says.

"I've met incredible life-long friends, and while there have been low times, this past year has been the best of my life."

 

[halsey02]

Lol she's more intelligent / wealthier than me. Already made it to the top in her career at 35 while I was nowhere near the top when I was at 35

Qualification is one thing, one thing I learn in life is connections, network & the last one LUCK. I started my working life with connections, where my family know this & that &....so doors were opened quietly & quickly, not that no qualifications was needed. I managed to wean myself away from that & used networking to find jobslater on in life..with that, you can find doors opening too, but the Ultimately you need LUCK to land the job, you want.

Education plays a very minor role...what is bloody use use if you have qualification from some jaw dropping institution & you have to submit CV go for countless interviews, for your family or connection is...The difference is...like this " Your....graduated already, tell your... come see my tomorrow & I see what I can find a position for your..." or " Hello!...George, your company needs people...oh!..your..., tell...come see me tomorrow"..

Qualification will get your somewhere...but where & when....??!!

 

[AhMeng]

Qualification is one thing, one thing I learn in life is connections, network & the last one LUCK. I started my working life with connections, where my family know this & that &....so doors were opened quietly & quickly, not that no qualifications was needed. I managed to wean myself away from that & used networking to find jobslater on in life..with that, you can find doors opening too, but the Ultimately you need LUCK to land the job, you want.

Education plays a very minor role...what is bloody use use if you have qualification from some jaw dropping institution & you have to submit CV go for countless interviews, for your family or connection is...The difference is...like this " Your....graduated already, tell your... come see my tomorrow & I see what I can find a position for your..." or " Hello!...George, your company needs people...oh!..your..., tell...come see me tomorrow"..

Qualification will get your somewhere...but where & when....??!!

Well said