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Waterway Punggol 4-Rm PHole - $300k. Affordable?

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Coffeeshop Chit Chat - HDB asking more than $300K for 4-rm BTO!</TD><TD id=msgunetc noWrap align=right> </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=msgtable cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="96%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=msg vAlign=top><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgbfr1 width="1%"> </TD><TD><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead vAlign=top><TD class=msgF width="1%" noWrap align=right>From: </TD><TD class=msgFname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt_89 <NOBR></NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>Jul-14 7:48 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>ALL <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (1 of 11) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>36091.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>HDB asking more than $300,000 for 4-room BTO flats in Punggol

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July 14th, 2010 |
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Author: Your Correspondent
http://www.temasekreview.com/2010/07/14/hdb-asking-more-than-300000-for-4-room-bto-flats-in-punggol/

In yet another sign that the prices of HDB flats are spiralling out of control, HDB’s latest premier project in Punggol Waterway Terraces is asking between $300,000 to $376,000 for four-room flats which are 12 times oversubscribed.
Five room flats, which range from $374,000 to $458,000 are 5 times oversubscribed as well. A similar size flat in nearby Sengkang fetched only about $200,000 10 years ago.
The prices of new flats are pegged to that of resale flats which have grown by more than 10 percent in this year ago.
The astronomical prices are caused partly by the shortage of new flats and rising demand fueled by the relentless influx of foreigners thanks to the lack of foresight on the part of HDB to built sufficient flats to meet the needs of the growing population.
The PAP had made known its ambitious plan to increase Singapore’s population to 6.5 million via immigration as early as 2005.
However, only slightly more than 11,000 new flats were built between the years 2006 – 2008 when there were over 90,000 PRs and 20,000 new citizens alone in 2008:
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[Source: HDB Financial Report 2008/2009]
Below is a graph illustrating how the rise in the prices of resale flats coincides with the rise in the number of foreigners in Singapore between the years 2000 and 2008, courtesy of Kojakbt, the moderator of 3in1kopitiam:
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Due to the ruling party’s pro-foreigner liberal immigration policy, foreigners now made up 36 per cent of Singapore’s population, up from 14 per cent in 1990.
Though prices of HDB flats have sky-rocketed in recent years, the median salary of the average Singapore worker remains stagnant at $2,400 monthly.
Despite widespread disgruntlement on the ground, National Development Minister Mah Bow Tan insists that HDB flats are “affordable” and even chides home buyers for being “fussy”.
The hugely unpopular Mr Mah is likely to face stiff competition from the opposition in his ward of Tampines GRC in the next general election, prompting PAP strongman Lee Kuan Yew to comment that Singaporeans are “daft” if they (dare) cast a protest vote against Mr Mah over rising HDB flat prices.

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<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%"><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD><TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead vAlign=top><TD class=msgF width="1%" noWrap align=right>From: </TD><TD class=msgFname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt_89 <NOBR></NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate width="30%" noWrap align=right>Jul-14 7:49 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT height=20 width="1%" noWrap align=right>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname width="68%" noWrap>kojakbt_89 <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (2 of 11) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft rowSpan=4 width="1%"> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>36091.2 in reply to 36091.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt><CITE class=fn>ANTI- FOREIGNERS:</CITE>
July 14, 2010 at 11:50 am
I just want to share my thoughts…
MBT and company probably did not calculate the monthly installments the couple needs to pay thru their CPF for a flat before pricing them at 350K (base on average for a 4rm flat). A quick calculation would review that the couple would need to pay close to 1k every month with their CPF.
But how many young couples has combine CPF of 1K in Singapore? So, in a nutshell, my interpretation of our Govt’s intention are:
1. Do not support the idea of early marriage (Between age 25 – 30) until you have money.
2. To control the birth rate of Singapore for not supporting the idea of early marriage.
3. With the low birth rate, the Govt can “officially” blame Singaporean for not “working hard” thus has an excuse to bring in more foreigners.
4. The flats are built to supply to the FT because they have the money to pay.
5. They don’t give a damn to your housing problem.
An older resale flat could well be an option for the young couples but HDB has a set of regulation that says… if you are a first timer and you purchase a resale flat, the next time when you want to purchase a brand new flat, you need to pay a levy. And because of this regulation, most of the young couple prefers to wait.
How many years would one need to work, from on the day they step into society, in order to have 40K in their CPF Ordinary Account?
An average Joe may probable earn 1.4K monthly for his first job?
By the time he save enough and get married he probably be in his mid 30s. So his next worry is if he has a child now, by the time his child due for university, he will be in his late 50s…. can he still be physically and financially capable to support his children. Not everybody is like our MM who take nutrition food everyday and refuse to leave..
At the end of the day, some may choose not to have children. So whose fault?
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July 14, 2010 at 5:47 pm
@ ACACIA: (July 14, 2010 at 11:26 am)
Has anyone any information is the rate of foreigners has slowed down. I hear from the grapevine, it has.
The rate of influx of foreigners has NOT slowed down.
Instead, they are getting even better deal.

For those uninformed, (I heard from some NUS-NTU sources, please can someone verify) those Parasites-FT that comes to NUS or NTU for master degree and above, are given living expenses, PREVIOUSLY SGD$1800 per month, and since this year march, raised to SGD$2500, that is an increased of 700 dollars (per month) per person. If they give birth of a child, the child is also given living expenses too……….. all these without any bond !!!
Why does sg government dont offer these scholarship to jobless (middle-age) graduates ??? These retrenched PMET can get skill-upgrading, and this living expenses of $2500 can help them to tie over the hardship too, and after graduation, these PMETs can still work in singapore.
Why give money to parasites-FT who will not work (no need to, no bond) in singapore?
To MCYS, if living expenses for FT-PARASITES can be raised 700 dollars a month, why not provide more than 380 dollars for the poor people in singapore??
Can TR or TOC do a special write-up for the benefits our IMMORTAL-Government showered on those parasites-FT ??
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