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Vaccines - to mix or not to mix?

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Certainly, this thread is not for the anti-vaxxers.
The MTF and MOH has been silent so far on the mixing of vaccines. Looks like they are clueless.

Forum: Looking forward to official stance on mixing vaccines for booster shot​


Oct 5, 2021

On Sept 14, I received an SMS from the Ministry of Health inviting me to make an appointment for my booster shot, exactly six months after my second shot of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.
However, as I was travelling to Germany, I had to wait till I came back this week. I did consider getting my booster shot while in Germany.
There, one has the option to choose which vaccine to take as a booster: Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna, AstraZeneca or Johnson & Johnson.
I have read reports that seem to point to it being better to mix an mRNA and a non-mRNA vaccine.
In my case that would mean going for AstraZeneca's or Johnson & Johnson's shot as a booster, to complement the two shots of the Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA vaccine I had received earlier.
It is unclear what Singapore's strategy is on this.

Currently it appears that the only option is for Singaporeans to take a third shot of an mRNA vaccine.
It would be valuable for the Government to spell out its views on the relative efficacy of the same versus a complementary booster.
Perhaps the Government could consider fast-tracking the approval of non-mRNA vaccines like AstraZeneca's or Johnson & Johnson's, and give citizens more choice for the first and future boosters.
In the meantime, I have booked a slot for a Moderna booster as studies in the United States indicate it has a slightly higher and longer efficacy than Pfizer.

Rahul Patwardhan
 
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It would be valuable for the Government to spell out its views on the relative efficacy of the same versus a complementary booster.
Based on the govt's competent record of increasing cases after 80% vaxx, this guy is still asking the views of the govt. He is teaching me how to spell D_A_F_T in capital letters.
 
Based on the govt's competent record of increasing cases after 80% vaxx, this guy is still asking the views of the govt. He is teaching me how to spell D_A_F_T in capital letters.

Bro, both of us are anti-mRNA vax. But what's your take on non-mRNA vax like Sinovac and Sinopharm?
 
But don't let me interrupt . Keep discussing and let me feedback your reasons and opinions to my colleagues.

It's good to know what morons think so we can tweak policies .

Thanks in advance
 
oh we do ... we do...

but we let you try what you want first ... kekekekekeke

I already have a tried and tested method to cure Corvid. 6 old farts in their 60s and 70s have fully recovered from it It's not Ivermectin or any medication. It's something that's easily available in the stores. So I am not the least bothered with the virus.
 
I already have a tried and tested method to cure Corvid. 6 old farts in their 60s and 70s have fully recovered from it It's not Ivermectin or any medication. It's something that's easily available in the stores. So I am not the least bothered with the virus.
I hope your cure involves some sort of virgin sacrifice

otherwise so boring
 
I hope your cure involves some sort of virgin sacrifice

otherwise so boring

Ya, the concoction has some of Jinx's cunt juice in it. You should try it. Better and more potent than all vaccines combined.
 
Ya, the concoction has some of Jinx's cunt juice in it. You should try it. Better and more potent than all vaccines combined.
You must have spent a lot of effort licking all that out of her for your concoction

well done !
 
But what's your take on non-mRNA vax like Sinovac and Sinopharm?

I am not a doctor or scientist.

1. When you mix, you will experience more side-effects. Eg. according to WHO filings, you are unlikely to get fever from sinopharm (common side effect with other vaccines).

2. Research can proven that single dose of mRNA + AZ or JJ will boost your antibodies significantly. However, there are insufficient data on 2 doses of mRNA + Sinovac/Sinopharm.

3. Please do not take booster jabs when you are just vaxxed 6-9 months ago. When your antibody-levels are too high, it might trigger inflammation in weaker body organs.

4. Sinopharm is better than Sinovac.

5. In Singapore context, you are vaxxed if you took mRNA x 2 doses or Sinovac/Sinopharm x 2 doses.
  • AZ stockpile reached Singapore but not available. By and large, AZ should not be used on younger females.
  • J&J is not available here too.
  • If you take one mRNA + one sinopharm/Sinovac, you are still considered fully vaccinated after two weeks.
 
I am not a doctor or scientist.

1. When you mix, you will experience more side-effects. Eg. according to WHO filings, you are unlikely to get fever from sinopharm (common side effect with other vaccines).

2. Research can proven that single dose of mRNA + AZ or JJ will boost your antibodies significantly. However, there are insufficient data on 2 doses of mRNA + Sinovac/Sinopharm.

3. Please do not take booster jabs when you are just vaxxed 6-9 months ago. When your antibody-levels are too high, it might trigger inflammation in weaker body organs.

4. Sinopharm is better than Sinovac.

5. In Singapore context, you are vaxxed if you took mRNA x 2 doses or Sinovac/Sinopharm x 2 doses.
  • AZ stockpile reached Singapore but not available. By and large, AZ should not be used on younger females.
  • J&J is not available here too.
  • If you take one mRNA + one sinopharm/Sinovac, you are still considered fully vaccinated after two weeks.
Finally someone who did his homework.

antibody response is still highest with mRNA vaccines . Moderna seems to have the best booster response .

Sinovac and sinopharm is garbage . We have seen patients who mount a pathetic to almost nil response. That’s why people die like flies in Indonesia

Government allowed it because something is still better than nothing. And they still need the stupid peoples’ votes
 
  • If you take one mRNA + one sinopharm/Sinovac, you are still considered fully vaccinated after two weeks.
My impression is that above apply only to those allergic after 1st dose of mRNA
Can anyone assist in showing the link where I can find out more
TIA
 
My impression is that above apply only to those allergic after 1st dose of mRNA
Can anyone assist in showing the link where I can find out more
TIA
That’s in the early days .

Now I have many patients who are allergic to every fuck thing under the sun and have gone for mRNA vaccines with no ill effects

talk to your doctors . Don’t listen to the self deluded quacks here
 
My impression is that above apply only to those allergic after 1st dose of mRNA
Can anyone assist in showing the link where I can find out more
TIA

I am not from MOH, but you can trust me on this. You will still be considered vaxx in tracetogether app, if you take the free mRNA vax and pay for 2 doses of sinopharm/sinovac (but you only take one dose), without any doc excuse.

However, my point is, if you want to take this route (despite not having any allergic issues with mRNA), why not just take two jabs of sinopharm from the beginning. Sinopharm is ex-stock in Singapore now. Please please please, ignore sinovac.
 
Pfizer, moderna, sinovac? :biggrin:
See whats in stock inject what lo
Mixing differ pharma vaccine into body?
Sometimes mixed food eat can laosai
Mixed vaccine into human body?
 
Certainly, this thread is not for the anti-vaxxers.
The MTF and MOH has been silent so far on the mixing of vaccines. Looks like they are clueless.

Forum: Looking forward to official stance on mixing vaccines for booster shot​


Oct 5, 2021

On Sept 14, I received an SMS from the Ministry of Health inviting me to make an appointment for my booster shot, exactly six months after my second shot of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.
However, as I was travelling to Germany, I had to wait till I came back this week. I did consider getting my booster shot while in Germany.
There, one has the option to choose which vaccine to take as a booster: Pfizer-BioNTech or Moderna, AstraZeneca or Johnson & Johnson.
I have read reports that seem to point to it being better to mix an mRNA and a non-mRNA vaccine.
In my case that would mean going for AstraZeneca's or Johnson & Johnson's shot as a booster, to complement the two shots of the Pfizer-BioNTech mRNA vaccine I had received earlier.
It is unclear what Singapore's strategy is on this.

Currently it appears that the only option is for Singaporeans to take a third shot of an mRNA vaccine.
It would be valuable for the Government to spell out its views on the relative efficacy of the same versus a complementary booster.
Perhaps the Government could consider fast-tracking the approval of non-mRNA vaccines like AstraZeneca's or Johnson & Johnson's, and give citizens more choice for the first and future boosters.
In the meantime, I have booked a slot for a Moderna booster as studies in the United States indicate it has a slightly higher and longer efficacy than Pfizer.

Rahul Patwardhan
AZ is ceca brand. Ceca is to complement sinkapoor core no how can be wrong? :cool:
 
I am not from MOH, but you can trust me on this. You will still be considered vaxx in tracetogether app, if you take the free mRNA vax and pay for 2 doses of sinopharm/sinovac (but you only take one dose), without any doc excuse.

However, my point is, if you want to take this route (despite not having any allergic issues with mRNA), why not just take two jabs of sinopharm from the beginning. Sinopharm is ex-stock in Singapore now. Please please please, ignore sinovac.
Trust is the last thing with this dope. Always score own goal with his misinformation about vaccines.
 
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