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Chitchat TSMC most advanced plant ready in Arizona!

Better than CCP style of 9-9-6 slavery, or the PAP cult of 'tripartism'. :cool:

USA and amdk style is not better for Fab operations.

Semiconductor fab is like military operation. Down time means $mil losses. Do the idealistic west have iron to perform such operations?
 
USA and amdk style is not better for Fab operations.

Semiconductor fab is like military operation. Down time means $mil losses. Do the idealistic west have iron to perform such operations?
they have been doing it with viet migrants and refugees since the 70s. sillycon valley always have migrant workers from asia. first the taiwanese, then the viets, followed by flips, then many jiuhukias and jiuhubus, now the tiongs. these fabs won’t hire niggers and hispanics. after working in sillycon valley for decades i haven’t seen one nigger nor hispanic working in a semicon fab. not one fecking strike from these submissive subservient asians. and they don’t unionize. walk into any fab in sillicon valley (amd, intc, nvda) or system assembly factories (hp, ibm, smci) and you’ll see more than 69% of the workforce are east asians (cecas work in software, east asians in hardware). that’s the recurring theme in the valley for decades. i walk past the supermicro campus everytime i visit lowe’s for diy tools and i still see asian coolies makan on the roadside with their lunch boxes. the company execs are so cheap to workers that they don’t have a decent cafeteria for a proper sit down lunch. hundreds of workers have their meal breaks on the roadside or in their parked cars by the curb. the taiwanese bosses force workers to park on the street. campus parking is only allowed for execs and delivery trucks.
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they have been doing it with viet migrants and refugees since the 70s. sillycon valley always have migrant workers from asia. first the taiwanese, then the viets, followed by flips, then many jiuhukias and jiuhubus, now the tiongs. these fabs won’t hire niggers and hispanics. after working in sillycon valley for decades i haven’t seen one nigger nor hispanic working in a semicon fab. not one fecking strike from these submissive subservient asians. and they don’t unionize. walk into any fab in sillicon valley (amd, intc, nvda) or system assembly factories (hp, ibm, smci) and you’ll see more than 69% of the workforce are east asians (cecas work in software, east asians in hardware). that’s the recurring theme in the valley for decades. i walk past the supermicro campus everytime i visit lowe’s for diy tools and i still see asian coolies makan on the roadside with their lunch boxes. the company execs are so cheap to workers that they don’t have a decent cafeteria for a proper sit down lunch. hundreds of workers have their meal breaks on the roadside or in their parked cars by the curb. the taiwanese bosses force workers to park on the street. campus parking is only allowed for execs and delivery trucks.
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Yes in past.

The thing is now its reversed. Asians or anyone will work in USA fabs only if they are well paid(with good benefits)

Fab jobs tough, but i seriously don't think the workers come cheap or need to sit by road side with lunch box. Their cafeteria could easily put many restaurants to shame
 
In before USA workers strike, want more pay and more vacations
The state of Arizona is preferred for semicon plants because of their anti unionist laws. Also their dry desert climate is great for semicon fab processing.

Those aside it's still a challenge to compete with Taiwan, Malaysia or Vietnam for productivity and cost efficiency
 
Yes in past.

The thing is now its reversed. Asians or anyone will work in USA fabs only if they are well paid(with good benefits)

Fab jobs tough, but i seriously don't think the workers come cheap or need to sit by road side with lunch box. Their cafeteria could easily put many restaurants to shame
you have to see it to believe it. many shady chink and tiong tech biz in sillycon valley. set up a company and hire their friends and relatives from tw and prc. smci kena delisting warning from nasdaq as they can’t even string together an audit report for 2024. bunch of shenanigans happening with these cheats. many have been shortchanging their employees in base pay yet employees continue to work for them hoping for a stock option windfall. many even withold pay or not pay at all for months, breaking state and fed labor laws.

case in point. alexandr wang founder of scale ai is accused of shortchanging his employees.
https://www.sfgate.com/tech/article/sf-tech-startup-scale-ai-sued-wage-theft-19976761.php

and this is an ai software startup. so many talented engineers kena duped. in hardware, it’s worse. many chinks, viets, tiongs, thais, and jiuhukias work for so called chip startups in the valley, and they have low base pay with promises of big gains in stock if they go ipo. the number of undocumented and illegal tiongs working in the valley is eye popping. they are the ones who will work below minimum wages and compensated on paper in other ways so as not to break state labor laws. but the state doesn’t care nor enforce unless workers whistleblow. but so far very few do as they are afraid of cases escalating to the fed level and kena deported. i’m not surprised these illegal tech slaves will form a beeline to az to look for work with tsmc.
 
tech sweat shops in sillycon valley. if you live here for over 36.9 years you will understand and be enlightened. sillycon valley is not always the high wage high moral high tech wonderland that you imagine and read from mainstream media.

https://revcom.us/a/v22/1052-059/1054/silicon.htm

the article below is proof why tech companies especially those doing hardware assembly do not want to hire latinos, as they will gang up and form unions (to strike). asian workers seldom form unions and hardly go on strike. they suffer in silence.

https://truthout.org/articles/up-ag...tory-of-silicon-valley-s-high-tech-workers-2/
 
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USA and amdk style is not better for Fab operations.

Semiconductor fab is like military operation. Down time means $mil losses. Do the idealistic west have iron to perform such operations?
This is same for other industries.
 
This Arizona plant could be the fuse that restart US re-industrialisation.
there’s a lot of advanced automation thus run of the mill workers are not needed. what are needed are skilled and well trained workers who can operate highly sensitive and advanced lithography machines. in a typical tsmc plant you won’t find plenty of labor. these techs and engineers are highly paid and hard to let go as only the best are retained. high “yield” with less waste cums with sexperience and the superior fab machines they design. the new american industrialization is a hybrid model of robotics, ai, and skilled labor. those typical blue collar unionized workers don’t stand a chance to be hired.
 
amazon’s first of its kind robotic fulfilment center. 5 types of specialized robots. may soon reach 6.9 types. in modern advanced semiconductor plants, over 69% of plant is automated. tsmc may already reach 90%.
 
there’s a lot of advanced automation thus run of the mill workers are not needed. what are needed are skilled and well trained workers who can operate highly sensitive and advanced lithography machines. in a typical tsmc plant you won’t find plenty of labor. these techs and engineers are highly paid and hard to let go as only the best are retained. high “yield” with less waste cums with sexperience and the superior fab machines they design. the new american industrialization is a hybrid model of robotics, ai, and skilled labor. those typical blue collar unionized workers don’t stand a chance to be hired.
You can say that this is the norm for every new industrial plant. WHether it's in Chips. Or making cars or food produce.
Hence the falling middle classes wages and the eventual disappearance.
China plants making EV's and batteries are almost fully automated Despite its huge labour force.
 
You can say that this is the norm for every new industrial plant. WHether it's in Chips. Or making cars or food produce.
Hence the falling middle classes wages and the eventual disappearance.
China plants making EV's and batteries are almost fully automated Despite its huge labour force.
eventually atb prostitutes will be jobless too when sexbots becum the norm.
 
eventually atb prostitutes will be jobless too when sexbots becum the norm.
Yes. Once the middle classes are wiped out. I wonder who will become consumers for these products. We can deduce the falling car sales as a result of rising resentment from the ground due to high prices of products and the killing of the insurance CEO the start if s revolution against the ruling elites.
 
Yes. Once the middle classes are wiped out. I wonder who will become consumers for these products. We can deduce the falling car sales as a result of rising resentment from the ground due to high prices of products and the killing of the insurance CEO the start if s revolution against the ruling elites.
it’ll be robots and ai serving elites. anybody lower will be jobless, homeless, penniless. pest control robots will be designed and produced to remove them.
 
so ze fab in arizona iz 3nm or 2nm 1? :sneaky:
Probably reason they chose Arizona because of abundant silica.normally it would be California silicon valley before democrats made it hostile to businesses.
 
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