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Top US health official says the coronavirus is 10 times 'more lethal' than the seasonal flu

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Top US health official says the coronavirus is 10 times 'more lethal' than the seasonal flu
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GP: Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the NIH National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
Saul Loeb | AFP | Getty Images

A top U.S. health official said the worst is yet to come with the coronavirus outbreak that has already infected more than 1,000 people across the nation and resulted in at least 31 deaths.

“I can say we will see more cases and things will get worse than they are right now,” Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, told the House Oversight and Reform Committee on Wednesday at a hearing on the nation’s preparedness for the outbreak.

Fauci said COVID-19 is at least 10 times “more lethal” than the seasonal flu, even if the mortality rate drops far below the World Health Organization’s current estimate of 3.4%.

The 2003 SARS epidemic, which began in November 2002 and ran through July 2003, had a mortality rate of 9% to 10%, he said, meaning roughly 10% of the people who caught it eventually died.

Since COVID-19 emerged in China two and a half months ago, “it clearly is not as lethal ... but it certainly spreads better,” he said, adding seasonal flu has a mortality rate of 0.1%.

The WHO’s estimated mortality rate for COVID-19 started off at 2%, Fauci said. If you count all the estimated cases of people who may have it but haven’t been diagnosed yet, the mortality rate is probably closer to 1%, he said, “which means it’s 10 times more lethal than the seasonal flu.”

The H1N1 “swine flu” epidemic in 2009 was even less lethal than regular seasonal flu, Fauci said.

While COVID-19 cases are slowing in China, where the outbreak originated in December, it’s picking up pace across other parts of the world. Italy has the most cases outside of China with roughly 10,150 infections, followed by Iran with 9,000 infections and South Korea with more than 7,700, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. In the U.S., the number of cases erupted over the last week to more than 1,030 spread across at least 36 states, according to Johns Hopkins.

The COVID-19 outbreak is just weeks underway in the U.S. How much worse it gets depends on two things, Fauci said: containing the influx of infected people coming from other countries and containing local outbreaks within the U.S.

“Bottom line is it’s going to get worse,” he added.

Once there’s widespread community transmission, or if health officials can’t trace back the origin of localized outbreaks, that’s when the country won’t be able to “effectively and efficiently contain it,” Fauci said.

Local and state officials have taken various measures to try to contain the virus, including closing schools, canceling parades and other public events, and even, in New York, mobilizing the National Guard to the “containment zone” in the hard-hit community of New Rochelle.

When pressed by lawmakers for an estimate of eventual fatalities in the U.S., Fauci said it will be “totally dependent upon how we respond to it.”

“I can’t give you a number,” he said. “I can’t give you a realistic number until we put into the factor of how we respond. If we’re complacent and don’t do really aggressive containment and mitigation, the number could go way up and be involved in many, many millions.”

Dr. Robert Redfield, the director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, confirmed that COVID-19 has now killed 31 people in the U.S. Globally, there are more than 119,000 confirmed cases and at least 4,291 deaths, according to Johns Hopkins.

President Donald Trump summoned the panel of witnesses to an emergency meeting at the White House later Wednesday, cutting the hearing short, Committee Chairwoman Rep. Carolyn Maloney said at the top of the hearing.

“This morning we were informed that President Trump and Vice President [Mike] Pence have called our witnesses to an emergency meeting at the White House. We don’t know the details, just that it’s extremely urgent,” said Maloney, D-N.Y.

The White House didn’t immediately respond to CNBC’s request for comment. White House officials later told reporters the meeting was scheduled yesterday as “part of the administration’s ongoing whole-of-government response to the coronavirus.”

At the hearing, Democratic lawmakers accused Trump of “politicizing” the outbreak, criticizing him for wearing his presidential campaign’s “Keep America Great” hat during his visit to CDC headquarters in Atlanta on Friday.

“This hat! A campaign hat! In the middle of a crisis!” shouted Rep. Gerry Connolly, D-Va., showing a photo of Trump at the CDC wearing the hat.

— CNBC’s Kevin Breuninger contributed to this article.
 
Trust Trump. It is a hoax. Trump has a hunch that Covid-19 will be gone in a few weeks. People should just treat Covid-19 like the flu and get back to work.
 
the pro China media said that the USA seasonal flu evolved into the Wuhan virus, and someone planted it in Wuhan. it's USA virus, not China one.
 
Trust Trump. It is a hoax. Trump has a hunch that Covid-19 will be gone in a few weeks. People should just treat Covid-19 like the flu and get back to work.

Maybe people don't want to go back to work and are conveniently playing up to the fear mongering in the media. This could be the first global level strike by workers who realize this extended break isn't too bad after all... As long as somebody is paying the salaries.
 
If corona is 10x more lethal than regular flu, we should expect to see 80,000-200,000 if the pandemic runs for year. If it fizzles out after 3 months, then maybe expect 20,000-50,000 deaths in USA.

Say it costs 10x more to treat than the flu, the additional cost to the US will (only) be around $100bn if it lasts a year. Or 25bn if for 3 months. The feds could print that much money a week.

So of we all stayed calm, this could be much ado about nothing in the end.

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/flu-statistics

Here's a rundown of some important statistics based on the best available data.

5% to 20% -- Percentage of the U.S. population that will get the flu, on average, each year.

200,000 -- Average number of Americans hospitalized each year because of problems with the illness.

8,200 to 20,000 -- Number of people who die each year from flu-related causes in the U.S.

$10 billion+ -- Average costs of hospitalizations and outpatient doctor visits related to the flu.
 
the pro China media said that the USA seasonal flu evolved into the Wuhan virus, and someone planted it in Wuhan. it's USA virus, not China one.
aiyah, such stupid logic. flu virus is in a different family of viruses from coronaviruses which include sars, mers, covid, and the common cold virus. if covid evolves and or mutates from sars it’s more believable.
 
the pro China media said that the USA seasonal flu evolved into the Wuhan virus, and someone planted it in Wuhan. it's USA virus, not China one.

Not another face saving conspiracy theory. Covid-19 originated from Wuhan, China period. They were warned about their filthy habits eons ago by scientists. Fast forward we're back to where we started-denials and finger pointing. Farking chinks!!!!!:mad:
 
Having probably caught it and got better within 3 to 4 days I can assure everyone that the coronavirus is nothing like the flu which is far worse.

When I came down with the flu I literally felt like killing myself. On the other hand the corona virus wasn't even as bad as the cold virus.
 
Depends on whether healthcare system is overwhelmed.

If it is mortality is 3 to 5%. If it is not then 0.5%
 
Having probably caught it and got better within 3 to 4 days I can assure everyone that the coronavirus is nothing like the flu which is far worse.

When I came down with the flu I literally felt like killing myself. On the other hand the corona virus wasn't even as bad as the cold virus.

You should get tested and see.

I have been getting sick a lot lately. Severe cough. Low grade fever. Short of breath.

But I dont want to get tested because I do not want to be sued for being a doctor who got covid and still working.

Ignorance is bliss. As it is Alberta is only screening if you have travel history.

I had a colleague who got tested. She is negative.

I have never gotten sick so many times in a year since I came to Canada. Strange.
 
You should get tested and see.

I have been getting sick a lot lately. Severe cough. Low grade fever. Short of breath.

But I dont want to get tested because I do not want to be sued for being a doctor who got covid and still working.

Ignorance is bliss. As it is Alberta is only screening if you have travel history.

I had a colleague who got tested. She is negative.

I have never gotten sick so many times in a year since I came to Canada. Strange.

If I get tested and it's positive it will start a whole lot of drama and red tape plus they'll start contact tracing which might lead the authorities to discover that I've been having sex with a variety of hookers over the past couple of months.

Like you said ignorance is bliss. I just visited the same hooker I saw 3 weeks ago and she seems to be fine. Sex was just as good and she was equally enthusiastic so I am assuming that everything is OK. Just had her STD tests done too and got the all clear.
 
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Dont trust USA anymore under Trump.. They hv faked everything..

911 is a hoax where Iraq has no WMD bombs to excuse to destroy the country. Then apply sanction to the badly destroyed Iraq... this is double dip murder crime...
 
The mortality rate differs widely for different age groups. For the aged and the immuno-compromised, the WuFlu certainly seems more lethal than the common cold or the usual influenza strains. I guess this is partly because a large segment of the population has herd immunity against the common strains.

The young and the physically fit recover well from WuFlu, just as they would be expected if infected with common cold. That's good news for this group of people.

I think the old and infirm must stay home for the rest of spring and summer. They are at grave risk.
 
Time for Trump to fire him! Only believe your gut and Ivanka's CB!
 
QUOTE="hofmann, post: 3063868, member: 105465"]
If corona is 10x more lethal than regular flu, we should expect to see 80,000-200,000 if the pandemic runs for year. If it fizzles out after 3 months, then maybe expect 20,000-50,000 deaths in USA.

Say it costs 10x more to treat than the flu, the additional cost to the US will (only) be around $100bn if it lasts a year. Or 25bn if for 3 months. The feds could print that much money a week.

So of we all stayed calm, this could be much ado about nothing in the end.

https://www.webmd.com/cold-and-flu/flu-statistics

Here's a rundown of some important statistics based on the best available data.

5% to 20% -- Percentage of the U.S. population that will get the flu, on average, each year.

200,000 -- Average number of Americans hospitalized each year because of problems with the illness.

8,200 to 20,000 -- Number of people who die each year from flu-related causes in the U.S.

$10 billion+ -- Average costs of hospitalizations and outpatient doctor visits related to the flu.


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