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This report confirmed that Pinoys and Pinays are the new Malays.
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He could have got much more from a China girl.
Malay archipelago = Malaysia + Indonesia + Philippines
They belong to the same race. Most of us cannot tell them apart. Genetically they are also similar.
Race and IQ
They belong to the same race. Most of us cannot tell them apart. Genetically they are also similar.
Race and IQ
Yes, Malay refers to brown people of this region. They are only separated by their religion. Only in Singapore and Malaysia do they have a twisted definition to say Malay is someone who practices Islam as well.
Are Filipinos Malays?
ARCHIVES 2013By MT Webmaster On Feb 27, 2013
Yet Philippine hero Dr. Jose Rizal is often called the “pride of the Malay race.” Malaysian opposition leader Anwar Ibrahim, for instance, has recognized Rizal as the “greatest Malayan,” calling Rizal an “Asian Renaissance Man.”
Mong Palatino, The Diplomat
If asked about their race, most Filipinos would identify as being Malay. Filipinos are taught in schools to be proud of their Malay heritage and encouraged to strengthen their ties with other Malays in Southeast Asia.
But Filipinos wishing to migrate in Singapore have to deny this fundamental identification because the Singapore government rejects the classification of Filipinos as Malay. But if Filipinos are not Malay, what ethnicity are they? Officially, Singapore recognizes immigrants from the neighboring Philippines as part of the racial category referred to as “Other.”
But why refuse the Malay background of Filipinos in the first place? Perhaps it has something to do with the special privileges accorded to the Malay minority in Singapore. Article 152 of the Constitution of Singapore states that the government “shall recognize the special position of the Malays, who are the indigenous people of Singapore, and accordingly it shall be the responsibility of the Government to protect, safeguard, support, foster and promote their political, educational, religious, economic, social and cultural interests and the Malay language.”
Some legal issues could arise if new immigrants from the Philippines are identified as Malays. They could be given special privileges as well. If this were to happen, the indigenous Malays in Singapore might not be in favor of it.
In fact, the recent publication of the government’s population strategy triggered a parliamentary discussion on the race status of Filipinos. Zainal Bin Sapari of Singapore’s Pasir Ris-Punggol district and a Malay-Muslim member of parliament asked for a clarification on the official race category for immigrants from the Philippines.
He said: “There are those who said that citizens from the Philippines (who are) accepted as Singaporean citizens will be categorized as Malays because historically they are considered to have the same roots as Malays. Is this true? If it is true, this would mean that even though the percentage is maintained, the identity and the meaning of the label ‘Malay’ will change.”
Singapore’s Immigration and Checkpoints Authority immediately replied: “This is not true. New Singapore citizens of Filipino origin are not classified as Malays. They are typically classified as ‘Others’ under the race category.”
https://www.malaysia-today.net/2013/02/27/are-filipinos-malays/
Pinoy, Malay and crow are all the same, all dark colour. However crows are slightly smarter among them
Yes, the Malays in Singapore and Malaysia have conflated ethnicity with religion.
The simple question to ask them is: before Islam entered the region in the 13th century - 800 years or 35 generations ago - what ethnicity were their forefathers, who were mainly Hindus and Buddhists (Sri Vijaya)?
Kafir? But this is an Arabic term for non-Muslims meaning 'infidel'! A religious, not an ethnic definition, usually used in a derogatory sense. So would today's Malays curse their great great great grand forebears as kafirs, I wonder?
Still the questions: even if these ancient inhabitants of the Malay archipelago were kafirs, what was their ethnicity?
I tell my Malay friends: Bang, bangsa ada beza dengan agama tau? Kalau kau tak percaya aku boleh tengok IC kau.
Everyone used to come from Samoa. Then a mass migration northwards followed, probably to escape from a volcanic/seismic cataclysm in the Pacific islands.
The Abrahamic religions they adopted were just an influence from the ruling class, the colonial masters or interactions with merchants and missionaries. It's a very recent invention.
Know your history and embrace your roots.
Samoan word for fire = afi
Maori word for fire = ahi
Malay word for fire = api
Filipino word for fire = apoy
The Abrahamic religions they adopted were just an influence from the ruling class, the colonial masters or interactions with merchants and missionaries. It's a very recent invention.
Know your history and embrace your roots.
Samoan word for fire = afi
Maori word for fire = ahi
Malay word for fire = api
Filipino word for fire = apoy
All are 山翻
Of course.. as mentioned countless times before, all these Muuds are Austronesians with aboriginal genes..:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austronesian_peoples
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malays_(ethnic_group)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipinos#Origins_and_genetic_studies
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Hence all are Muuds...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austronesian_peoples
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malays_(ethnic_group)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filipinos#Origins_and_genetic_studies
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Hence all are Muuds...
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You omitted sone Cambodians and Vietnamese and thais. Before Vietnam was created, there was the malay champa kingdom. Capital around DaNang.
US chose DaNang for it's airforce base during Vietnam War.
If Anwar Ibrahim says Jose Rizal was one of the greatest Malayans, then Filipinos are Malays. No Malaysian Malay has come close to matching the achievements of of Rizal.
By the way, Anwar once called out on Mahathir's Indian heritage and laughed at his attempts to pass off as Malay.
GOTCHA - Jarius Bondoc - The Philippine Star
December 30, 2022 | 12:00am
Not only Filipinos heroize Jose Rizal. Malaysians, Indonesians, Bruneians also study Rizal as central to their histories. Scholars glean from Rizal’s life and works a Malay racial consciousness.
Rizal mastered geography, among many fields. In his time, Spaniards born in Islas Filipinas called themselves “Filipinos.” Both Castilians and Filipinos derogated the natives as “Indios.” British, Dutch, French and Portuguese colonialists had other diminutives for their conquered Malay islanders.
On Rizal’s birth anniversary last year, Anwar honored Rizal with his article:
“‘Justice is the foremost virtue of the civilizing races. It subdues the barbarous nations, while injustice arouses the weakest.’ – Dr. José Rizal
“Today we celebrate the 160th birthday of one of the greatest Malayans, the Philippine National Hero, Dr. José Rizal who was truly an Asian Renaissance Man. A polymath, Rizal’s knowledge and scholarship was beyond measure and his contributions as a writer, thinker and artist was titanic. Dr. Rizal is the ultimate demonstration of how education can take anyone, regardless of race, religion or identity, to seize their moment in history, empowered to make for better tomorrows.
“To call José Rizal a revolutionary is disingenuous, for he denounced violent uprisings and referred to himself as a reformer. Without doubt, his efforts helped to launch the Philippines’ fight for independence from Spain, but his pen was mightier than the Spanish sword. The potential power given in his education, received from the West, helped him lead his community out of colonial slump. His two novels, Noli Me Tangere and El Filibusterismo, are a testament to global literature and demonstrate mastery of language, satirizing the Spanish colonial project with allusion to classic Spanish literature and history, judging the brutal methods used with their own mythology. In his essay, ‘The Philippines a Century Hence,’ Rizal’s foresight warned the Spanish Empire of the struggle ahead if reform is not pursued and predicted the US’s growing influence in the Pacific. His hope was to inspire peaceful reform and gradual transition, but Spain labelled him a traitor and, at the age of 35, he was executed by firing squad in Manila in 1896.
“Rizal’s efforts took him beyond acclaim in just one nation. He not only believed in the indigenous peoples of the Malay Archipelago, but demonstrated what they were truly capable of. He advocated the union of the Malay lands against colonialist rule. He saw education as the highest element of any society that would ensure its survival and prosperity into the future. ‘In my blood runs the wanderlust of the Malays’ was a saying of Dr. Rizal. Let us take his example and seek the betterment of ourselves and our neighbors to build better futures.
“Rizal’s message reverberates today in his concept of the Malayan world and those sentiments of community we need to embody. For international cooperation and regional partnership, we should all take a page from Dr. Rizal’s words. His message remains important as we still find ourselves plagued by poverty and injustices in Southeast Asia.”
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By the way, Anwar once called out on Mahathir's Indian heritage and laughed at his attempts to pass off as Malay.
Malaysian Prime Minister extols Rizal ‘among greatest Malayans’
GOTCHA - Jarius Bondoc - The Philippine Star
December 30, 2022 | 12:00am
Not only Filipinos heroize Jose Rizal. Malaysians, Indonesians, Bruneians also study Rizal as central to their histories. Scholars glean from Rizal’s life and works a Malay racial consciousness.
Rizal mastered geography, among many fields. In his time, Spaniards born in Islas Filipinas called themselves “Filipinos.” Both Castilians and Filipinos derogated the natives as “Indios.” British, Dutch, French and Portuguese colonialists had other diminutives for their conquered Malay islanders.
On Rizal’s birth anniversary last year, Anwar honored Rizal with his article:
“‘Justice is the foremost virtue of the civilizing races. It subdues the barbarous nations, while injustice arouses the weakest.’ – Dr. José Rizal
“Today we celebrate the 160th birthday of one of the greatest Malayans, the Philippine National Hero, Dr. José Rizal who was truly an Asian Renaissance Man. A polymath, Rizal’s knowledge and scholarship was beyond measure and his contributions as a writer, thinker and artist was titanic. Dr. Rizal is the ultimate demonstration of how education can take anyone, regardless of race, religion or identity, to seize their moment in history, empowered to make for better tomorrows.
“To call José Rizal a revolutionary is disingenuous, for he denounced violent uprisings and referred to himself as a reformer. Without doubt, his efforts helped to launch the Philippines’ fight for independence from Spain, but his pen was mightier than the Spanish sword. The potential power given in his education, received from the West, helped him lead his community out of colonial slump. His two novels, Noli Me Tangere and El Filibusterismo, are a testament to global literature and demonstrate mastery of language, satirizing the Spanish colonial project with allusion to classic Spanish literature and history, judging the brutal methods used with their own mythology. In his essay, ‘The Philippines a Century Hence,’ Rizal’s foresight warned the Spanish Empire of the struggle ahead if reform is not pursued and predicted the US’s growing influence in the Pacific. His hope was to inspire peaceful reform and gradual transition, but Spain labelled him a traitor and, at the age of 35, he was executed by firing squad in Manila in 1896.
“Rizal’s efforts took him beyond acclaim in just one nation. He not only believed in the indigenous peoples of the Malay Archipelago, but demonstrated what they were truly capable of. He advocated the union of the Malay lands against colonialist rule. He saw education as the highest element of any society that would ensure its survival and prosperity into the future. ‘In my blood runs the wanderlust of the Malays’ was a saying of Dr. Rizal. Let us take his example and seek the betterment of ourselves and our neighbors to build better futures.
“Rizal’s message reverberates today in his concept of the Malayan world and those sentiments of community we need to embody. For international cooperation and regional partnership, we should all take a page from Dr. Rizal’s words. His message remains important as we still find ourselves plagued by poverty and injustices in Southeast Asia.”
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With Pinoys the proportion of Malays in Sickipoora has increased from 15% to 20%.
India all so Malay?
This is not a Singapore problem. Pino want to move to msia they all so say u no moose limps u no Malay. Is it up to SG to tell msia who is Malay who is not like we know better?
Anwar's father is Tamil
Basically anwar is same as Dr m and halimah.
Basically anwar is same as Dr m and halimah.
Anwar has no Malay blood at all.
His father, Ibrahim bin Abdul Rahman, was an Tamil Muslim hospital porter turned MP.
His mother Che Yan was the daughter of a Chinese mualaf Yusof Long.
You mean Jiu hu melayu got tricked into thinking their PM is a Malay?
