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This guy says islam spread via violence.

JohnTan

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It was only in recent years that moslems said islam was spread by peace. It's because moslems are trying to outcompete Christians to see whose religion is older, more attractive, etc.

It's the "my dad is better than your dad in every single way" argument.
 

Loofydralb

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He can have his opinion. He was never a Muslim in the first place. He was Qadianni. A non muslim faith that has doctrines overlapping Islam.
However any logical thinker would come to the conclusion that it will all unravel if it really did spread by the sword and when that sword was eventually taken away.
But what happened was total opposite.
As what Allah has decreed in the Quran, there is no compulsion in religion.
 
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JohnTan

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He can have his opinion.
However any logical thinker would come to the conclusion that it will all unravel if it really did spread by the sword and when that sword was eventually taken away.
But what happened was total opposite.
As what Allah has decreed in the Quran, there is no compulsion in religion.

When was the sword of islam taken away? Most moslems face death, physical violence, loss of family and custody of their own kids if they renounce islam

Your hadith scriptures made it clear that if moslems leave islam, kill them. hadiths supercedes quran since they were written 200+ years after the first qurans appeared.
 

syed putra

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Western historians have a different opinion. That there was no coercion into Islam.
They based their finding on DNA analysis which revealed Arabic descent made up of less than 5% in persia and spain and places such as Afghanistan and further north and east.
 

syed putra

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ATTENTION MUSLIMS : Muhammad Hijab And Mufti Menke Discuss 24% Muslims In US Left Islam



This is actually a growing issue all around the Islamic countries. It is not just affecting Muslims living in the West. It also affects Muslims living inside Muslim countries.
And almost all these Muslims who leave Islam are not converting to Christianity or any other religion. Instead they are becoming atheists. You can just Google 'Atheism in Islamic Countries' and see for yourself the information available.
Iran is almost 100% Muslim. But in a 2020 survey only 40% of Iranians identify themselves as Muslims. The remaining 60% are not. There is also growing atheism in Egypt and Saudi Arabia (of all places).
The following video is less than one minute and it shows Muhammad Hijab and Mufti Menke discussing the issue of growing atheism among Muslims. Both Hijab and Mufti Menke are well regarded speakers and preachers of Islam. I have some comments after this
 

Loofydralb

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When was the sword of islam taken away? Most moslems face death, physical violence, loss of family and custody of their own kids if they renounce islam

Your hadith scriptures made it clear that if moslems leave islam, kill them. hadiths supercedes quran since they were written 200+ years after the first qurans appeared.
The only one killed because he came into Islam by deceit so that he could subvert from within.
He then ran away and left Islam after admitting trying to distort the Quran verses that the prophet told him to write down.
Basically a spy because he was never a Muslim in the first place.
There is no other instance of the prophet killing someone leaving Islam.
 

JohnTan

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The only one killed because he came into Islam by deceit so that he could subvert from within.
He then ran away and left Islam after admitting trying to distort the Quran verses that the prophet told him to write down.

Your own hadith scriptures said that your fake prophet agreed to the changes because it made his quran look better. That was when the scribe realised that the moslem prophet was full of shit and left islam. He was hunted down eventually and killed for renouncing islam.
 

duluxe

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He can have his opinion.
However any logical thinker would come to the conclusion that it will all unravel if it really did spread by the sword and when that sword was eventually taken away.
But what happened was total opposite.
As what Allah has decreed in the Quran, there is no compulsion in religion.
Islam spread by missionary? LOL.

Islam was spread by the SWORD, fact is fact. The history of ancient persian, afghan and north-west india will review how islam is spread by the bloody SWORD using the human crafted militant doctrines in the koran + hadiths to brainwash muslim soldiers to be fearless and violent in the conquest. History does not lie and the signs are in the 'holy' text.
 

syed putra

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Islam spread by missionary? LOL.

Islam was spread by the SWORD, fact is fact. The history of ancient persian, afghan and north-west india will review how islam is spread by the bloody SWORD using the human crafted militant doctrines in the koran + hadiths to brainwash muslim soldiers to be fearless and violent in the conquest. History does not lie and the signs are in the 'holy' text.
I don't think so.
 

Loofydralb

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Your own hadith scriptures said that your fake prophet agreed to the changes because it made his quran look better. That was when the scribe realised that the moslem prophet was full of shit and left islam. He was hunted down eventually and killed for renouncing islam.
Haha. Your fake stories don't add up.
If the Quran was changed, it would be full of contradictions like your bible.
 

oliverlee

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Haha. Your fake stories don't add up.
If the Quran was changed, it would be full of contradictions like your bible.
check which is the ur-text. the old testament, the torah predates the koran by a lot. Fact is fact, that the koran is a rewritten version of the OT? In fact, go look up the meaning of the Chinese transliterated name for Islam. Don't live in a well, and wield sword.
 

Loofydralb

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check which is the ur-text. the old testament, the torah predates the koran by a lot. Fact is fact, that the koran is a rewritten version of the OT? In fact, go look up the meaning of the Chinese transliterated name for Islam. Don't live in a well, and wield sword.
Again, if it were copied from the Torah and bible, it amazes all to find the mistakes not copied!
Why would anyone wants or needs to look up the transliterated meaning of an Arabic word in Chinese when clearly in Arabic is peace.
Do you scratch you left cheek with you right hand going behind your head? Duh! Talking about living in a well....
 

oliverlee

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Again, if it were copied from the Torah and bible, it amazes all to find the mistakes not copied!
Why would anyone wants or needs to look up the transliterated meaning of an Arabic word in Chinese when clearly in Arabic is peace.
Do you scratch you left cheek with you right hand going behind your head? Duh! Talking about living in a well....
ignoramus. you just showed me what a fucking flat head you are. The earth is flat of course, according to your family tree. Stop wasting my time. chee bai
 

Loofydralb

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ignoramus. you just showed me what a fucking flat head you are. The earth is flat of course, according to your family tree. Stop wasting my time. chee bai
Good job. Vulgarity sans logic wins the argument! Hahaha. Pathetic. The best you can do.
 
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