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[k1976]

There were way more secrets before 1500 years ago. The histories of mankind have been erased multiple times to serve the agenda of the rulers

Why u can say something so make perfect sense?

 

[duluxe]

Your one paragraph describes exactly your mental ungratefulness of the Arab and islamic world's contribution to the math and sciences development.
Nothing surprising from a race of ungrateful people.

There is different between given credit to the rightful person and alluding to a discerning person. Macam some of the grassroots leaders alluding their hardworks to their MPs who did nothing but got the credits.

 

[duluxe]

So, the hadiths merely took the info from scientific and medical sources when it became available (i.e., 360 joints in the human body) and then attributed it to the prophet?

The arab muslim physicians Al-Zahrawi and Ibn Sina did have some anatomical breakthroughs on the study. Al-Zahrawi was born CE 936 CE and Ibn Sina was born CE 980. 2 greek physicians predated them on the study. Hippocrates (born BCE 460) and Galen (born CE 129).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Zahrawi

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avicenna

Al-Zahrawi and Ibn Sina were both influential medieval Muslim physicians and scientists. Al-Zahrawi is known as the "Father of Operative Surgery", while Ibn Sina is known as Avicenna.

Al-Zahrawi

• Born in 936 AD in Zahra, Andalusia (now Spain)
• Served as a court physician to the caliph Al-Hakam II
• Known for his surgical knowledge and expertise
• Designed over 200 surgical instruments, including the scalpel, forceps, and surgical needle
• Pioneered the use of catgut for internal stitches
• First to identify the hereditary nature of hemophilia
• First to describe an abdominal pregnancy

Ibn Sina

• Also known as Avicenna
• Author of al-Qanun fi al-Tibb (The Canon of Medicine), one of the most influential medical texts of its time

Abu Ali Al-Hussein Ibn Abdullah Ibn Sina, known in the West as Avicenna, was one of the most eminent Muslim physicians and philosophers of his days whose influence on Islamic and European medicine persisted for centuries. He was named by his students and followers as “Al Shaikh Al Ra'ees” or the master wise man.

 

[glockman]

https://history.stackexchange.com/questions/68736/how-old-is-the-idea-that-humans-have-360-joints

Whoever has a louder voice can just claimed “Mine is real”, “Yours is fake”

As human civilization goes a long history and burning books was an ancient way of rewriting history, we won’t be able to really tell who were the 1st person who had found the truth of this.

The modern way of rewriting history are Google, Wikipedia and others owned by the Jews

So Dong Zhongshu in the 2nd century BC was the first to come up with this 360 joints notion. And islam copied it during 9th century AD, and inserted it into the hadiths.

 

[Truthspeak]

So Dong Zhongshu in the 2nd century BC was the first to come up with this 360 joints notion. And islam copied it during 9th century AD, and inserted it into the hadiths.

We won’t know the truth, we can only speculate

 

[glockman]

No. Let me re explain.

This is what the prophet mentioned as narrated by Ibn Abbas in the books of the Hadiths:
"There are 360 joints and each of them owes sadaqa every single day." (Sadaqa=charity)

That was 1500 ago.

It appears that a brilliant chink was the one who came up with this 360 joints thingy in the 2nd century BC. Your prophet picked it up from studying chink writings and claimed it as his own. But it is good that he used this info to get followers to be charitable 360 times daily, and I hope he did not use this info to fleece his followers 360 times daily.

 

[duluxe]

So Dong Zhongshu in the 2nd century BC was the first to come up with this 360 joints notion. And islam copied it during 9th century AD, and inserted it into the hadiths.

Yes! The idea that humans have 360 joints is actually much older than the muslim prophet. But I think unlikely it was transmitted from China to Arab during the time of the Prophet. Probably it was from the collective and accumulated works of Hippocrates and Galen to muslim scientists Al-Zahrawi and Ibn Sina. They just alluded it to him in the hadiths. And they claim the authenticity process of the hadiths is very scientific, hmmm.....

 

[crimsondue]

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[eatshitndie]

there were 6.9 sextra joints missing after early humans lost their tail bones. and 1 sextra joint is added when unker has a boner.

 

[duluxe]

there were 6.9 sextra joints missing after early humans lost their tail bones. and 1 sextra joint is added when unker has a boner.

bro, I don't understand you. Possible to sexplain again without any 69?

 

[duluxe]

Accuracy is paramount.
According to Dong Zhongshu, humans have 366 small joints, which is similar to the number of days in a year. A big error in science and medicine.
Also books from china in the Arab peninsula? And read by an illiterate?
Right....

Who wrote that hadith and when? Is the writer illiterate too? You said accuracy is paramount, did the writer heard it from one of the hafiz who were supposed to have memorized the koran word for word?

 

[crimsondue]

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[GOD IS MY DOG]

An illiterate man in the middle of the desert?
Got university, school and library in the desert?

Quote a manuscript that is older than 1000 years ago that described this. You won't find any.

the conman was a travelling businessman.............just as i thought ..............even though i never bothered to read up on that bastard for decades.........

that's how he created the Frankenstein death cult called I-SLUM..........he took stories and info from older religions and other people..........

the only things he was good at were.........robbing, killing, raping kids and stealing wives from his own adopted sons.............

 

[crimsondue]

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[GOD IS MY DOG]

You are entitled to your opinion but christian academic scholars would disagree

X'tians ah..................those guys that worship a made-up fictional character ?

 

[crimsondue]

Nil

 

[duluxe]

Good questions.
Get a christian to ask and research it himself and post the results on the web.
It'll be a big scoop if it is proven false.
Muslim scholar (al Albani) who researched it has ascertained it is authentic and I trust his work and conclusion.

You dare not directly say out which year and this a piece of critical info, so you have to push to a christian. It is haram for muslims to criticize islam negatively. Muslims have an invisible bashphermy rope tied around their neck. Even if they spotted and confirmed a mistake, they cannot say it out.

If was really directly from the mouth of mohammed, it will be recorded in the koran right?

 

[eatshitndie]

bro, I don't understand you. Possible to sexplain again without any 69?

it’s tongue in cheek.

 

[duluxe]

the conman was a travelling businessman.............just as i thought ..............even though i never bothered to read up on that bastard for decades.........

that's how he created the Frankenstein death cult called I-SLUM..........he took stories and info from older religions and other people..........

the only things he was good at were.........robbing, killing, raping kids and stealing wives from his own adopted sons.............

Yes!, Muhammed was a traveling trader and not a Osteology physician. During medieval times, traveling traders have to cross custom check points similar to our modern days. They need to prepare and show traveling documents too, so muhammed may not be illiterate.

Muslim scholars tend to over emphasized muhammed is illiterate, eh very fishy and suspicious.......

 

[crimsondue]

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