The problem with Covid is not the deaths

[Papsmearer]

From what I am reading, the fatality rate for Covid is something like 1.4% depending on the jurisdiction and country, and its high, higher then say seasonal flu which is at around 0.22%. The death rate is of course skewed towards the elderly and those with underlying ailments. We know all this. But where the health authorities around the world have not done is to communicate the consequences of Covid Infection. Everyone just wants to talk about the deaths.

According to some countries like Canada, the hospitalization rate is 7% for those infected with Covid. So, if 100,000 people are infected with Covid, on average 7,000 need a hospital bed. Of this 7,000 requiring hospitalization, about 2100 will require ICU/CCU. This is where the issue is. ICU/CCU beds in any country is a short commodity. If you are putting Covid patients into ICU/CCU units, then you have to in effect quarantine them, so it does not spread to other patients. Which means that other surgeries cannot take place because there is simply no beds available for post-op recovery. If you need a hip, knee, replacement, cancer surgery or some other surgery, well, those will be canceled until there is CCU beds available. This of course has a cascading effect. Some People whose surgeries were postponed due to lack of beds, will die waiting, Others will suffer as their conditions get worse. People who say Covid is not that bad ignore this fact. It is bad not from a direct impact point of view, but from its indirect impact on the ability for hospitals to deliver other healthcare services.

 

[eatshitndie]

sf general hospital reported a week ago that out of 30 icu beds 6.9 beds were used for ccp virus cases. that’s about 23%. majority cases in icu are attributed to heart attacks, strokes, accidents, gunshot wounds, opioid overdoses - even as of this week’s report. more deaths in sf are attributed to opioid overdoses over ccp virus. majority of deaths among ccp virus cases are hispanic and black.

 

[glockman]

From what I am reading, the fatality rate for Covid is something like 1.4% depending on the jurisdiction and country, and its high, higher then say seasonal flu which is at around 0.22%. The death rate is of course skewed towards the elderly and those with underlying ailments. We know all this. But where the health authorities around the world have not done is to communicate the consequences of Covid Infection. Everyone just wants to talk about the deaths.

According to some countries like Canada, the hospitalization rate is 7% for those infected with Covid. So, if 100,000 people are infected with Covid, on average 7,000 need a hospital bed. Of this 7,000 requiring hospitalization, about 2100 will require ICU/CCU. This is where the issue is. ICU/CCU beds in any country is a short commodity. If you are putting Covid patients into ICU/CCU units, then you have to in effect quarantine them, so it does not spread to other patients. Which means that other surgeries cannot take place because there is simply no beds available for post-op recovery. If you need a hip, knee, replacement, cancer surgery or some other surgery, well, those will be canceled until there is CCU beds available. This of course has a cascading effect. Some People whose surgeries were postponed due to lack of beds, will die waiting, Others will suffer as their conditions get worse. People who say Covid is not that bad ignore this fact. It is bad not from a direct impact point of view, but from its indirect impact on the ability for hospitals to deliver other healthcare services.

Good point. So, the pertinent question ought to be How many are actually sick and dying because they don't have covid?

 

[nayr69sg]

Good point. So, the pertinent question ought to be How many are actually sick and dying because they don't have covid?

A lot of people lah.

 

[syed putra]

sf general hospital reported a week ago that out of 30 icu beds 6.9 beds were used for ccp virus cases. that’s about 23%. majority cases in icu are attributed to heart attacks, strokes, accidents, gunshot wounds, opioid overdoses - even as of this week’s report. more deaths in sf are attributed to opioid overdoses over ccp virus. majority of deaths among ccp virus cases are hispanic and black.

Hispanics( of indigenous stock) and Africans are most susceptible as they are not from the trade route zones where all kinds of disease appear at random and spread.

 

[rushifa666]

0.002 fatality. Exclude shithole countries. Nothing works there. And if you really thinking there is hospital bed shortage google american nurse twerking in empty hospitals.

 

[nayr69sg]

From what I am reading, the fatality rate for Covid is something like 1.4% depending on the jurisdiction and country, and its high, higher then say seasonal flu which is at around 0.22%. The death rate is of course skewed towards the elderly and those with underlying ailments. We know all this. But where the health authorities around the world have not done is to communicate the consequences of Covid Infection. Everyone just wants to talk about the deaths.

According to some countries like Canada, the hospitalization rate is 7% for those infected with Covid. So, if 100,000 people are infected with Covid, on average 7,000 need a hospital bed. Of this 7,000 requiring hospitalization, about 2100 will require ICU/CCU. This is where the issue is. ICU/CCU beds in any country is a short commodity. If you are putting Covid patients into ICU/CCU units, then you have to in effect quarantine them, so it does not spread to other patients. Which means that other surgeries cannot take place because there is simply no beds available for post-op recovery. If you need a hip, knee, replacement, cancer surgery or some other surgery, well, those will be canceled until there is CCU beds available. This of course has a cascading effect. Some People whose surgeries were postponed due to lack of beds, will die waiting, Others will suffer as their conditions get worse. People who say Covid is not that bad ignore this fact. It is bad not from a direct impact point of view, but from its indirect impact on the ability for hospitals to deliver other healthcare services.

wah indirect impact......

everything should be face value.

too cheem lah.

 

[syed putra]

0.002 fatality. Exclude shithole countries. Nothing works there. And if you really thinking there is hospital bed shortage google american nurse twerking in empty hospitals.

Heard some hospitals going bust.

 

[tanwahtiu]

Never wasted money on top SAF puikia scholar on you.

Good critical thinking. U see it is a jungle but this puikia Sam see it is a forest...

From what I am reading, the fatality rate for Covid is something like 1.4% depending on the jurisdiction and country, and its high, higher then say seasonal flu which is at around 0.22%. The death rate is of course skewed towards the elderly and those with underlying ailments. We know all this. But where the health authorities around the world have not done is to communicate the consequences of Covid Infection. Everyone just wants to talk about the deaths.

According to some countries like Canada, the hospitalization rate is 7% for those infected with Covid. So, if 100,000 people are infected with Covid, on average 7,000 need a hospital bed. Of this 7,000 requiring hospitalization, about 2100 will require ICU/CCU. This is where the issue is. ICU/CCU beds in any country is a short commodity. If you are putting Covid patients into ICU/CCU units, then you have to in effect quarantine them, so it does not spread to other patients. Which means that other surgeries cannot take place because there is simply no beds available for post-op recovery. If you need a hip, knee, replacement, cancer surgery or some other surgery, well, those will be canceled until there is CCU beds available. This of course has a cascading effect. Some People whose surgeries were postponed due to lack of beds, will die waiting, Others will suffer as their conditions get worse. People who say Covid is not that bad ignore this fact. It is bad not from a direct impact point of view, but from its indirect impact on the ability for hospitals to deliver other healthcare services.

 

[tanwahtiu]

Hey puikia. Didn't u miss to see China setup 1000 beds in 7 days to cushion the impact?

That's the key reason why China succeeded to contain the spread.

Go lose more weight, fat man...

Good point. So, the pertinent question ought to be How many are actually sick and dying because they don't have covid?

 

[Papsmearer]

sf general hospital reported a week ago that out of 30 icu beds 6.9 beds were used for ccp virus cases. that’s about 23%. majority cases in icu are attributed to heart attacks, strokes, accidents, gunshot wounds, opioid overdoses - even as of this week’s report. more deaths in sf are attributed to opioid overdoses over ccp virus. majority of deaths among ccp virus cases are hispanic and black.

But in LA county, they have run out of ICU/CCU beds due to Covid cases occupying them. Different jurisdictions

 

[Papsmearer]

Good point. So, the pertinent question ought to be How many are actually sick and dying because they don't have covid?

There have been reports that people have died when their surgeries have been postponed due to a) fear of getting patient or staff infected with covid when they come in for their surgeries 2) no beds in ICU or CCU available due to covid cases occupying them

 

[Papsmearer]

Hispanics( of indigenous stock) and Africans are most susceptible as they are not from the trade route zones where all kinds of disease appear at random and spread.

That is probably why LA county is out of ICU/CCU beds due to the large number of Hispanic there. Bay Area not that many hispanics by comparison.

 

[eatshitndie]

But in LA county, they have run out of ICU/CCU beds due to Covid cases occupying them. Different jurisdictions

too many latinos. they’re approaching 69% of new case loads. in east and south san jose in the sillycon valley area, over 50% of hospitalization cases involve latinx (new politically correct term for hispanics and latinos). in san joaquin county in the central valley, icu capacities are swarmed, and they spill over to east and south san jose in santa clara county. central valley is agriculture and farming cuntry.

 

[eatshitndie]

Hispanics( of indigenous stock) and Africans are most susceptible as they are not from the trade route zones where all kinds of disease appear at random and spread.

that’s why mankind must sexplore and sleep around the world to acquire all shits of immunity.

 

[nayr69sg]

But in LA county, they have run out of ICU/CCU beds due to Covid cases occupying them. Different jurisdictions

@Papsmearer hey have a merry xmas and a good 2021!

Jolly!

 

[glockman]

Hey puikia. Didn't u miss to see China setup 1000 beds in 7 days to cushion the impact?

That's the key reason why China succeeded to contain the spread.

Go lose more weight, fat man...

Limpeh pui? You must be mad. My six-pack is as hard as my dick!

 

[tanwahtiu]

Braggart... Old fart can't hv 6 pack. 1 big lump...

Limpeh pui? You must be mad. My six-pack is as hard as my dick!

 

[eatshitndie]

Braggart... Old fart can't hv 6 pack. 1 big lump...

6.9-pack.

 

[glockman]

Braggart... Old fart can't hv 6 pack. 1 big lump...

6.9-pack.
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