The Earth IS NOT flat

[tobelightlight]

One more topic we want to address today, we never thought it would be necessary. A big enough part of the human population in 2024, still thinks and believes that the Earth is flat. This nonsense came from the Dark Entities to confuse humans and slowdown the advancement of science based on a false claim. We see your planet everyday and you need to believe us, it’s ROUND like your soccer ball. Just imagine on what would happen to Mother Earth, if it was flat, the gravity wouldn’t work, the poles would be imbalanced, the oceans wouldn’t stay and etc.

A planet needs to be round to rotate and spin in a circle in order to be able to exist in space. A flat Earth would immediately collapse in outer space. Also, if Gaia was flat, you would have by now heard about many accidents in the air by planes and ships in the oceans of running into some kind of a wall or planes flying of the planet and ships falling of the edge, as Mother Gaia would not be round, which means there would be a wall or an edge at south, north, east and west of the planet. This never happened.

 

[Leongsam]

The whole universe is flat so it goes without saying that the earth has to be flat too.

space.com
The Universe Is Flat — Now What?
Paul Sutter
8–10 minutes
Hubble Space Telescope eXtreme Deep field view
The Hubble Space Telescope accumulated approximately 555 hours of exposure time to capture this Hubble eXtreme Deep Field image. The area shown represents a seemingly empty patch of sky about the width of a toothpick when held at arm's length. The picture contains only two foreground stars (indicated by surrounding spikes). Every other object is a galaxy. The most distant galaxies' light is reddened by the expansion of the universe. We're seeing light that left them 13.2 billion years ago. (Image credit: NASA)

Paul Sutter is an astrophysicist at The Ohio State University and the chief scientist at COSI Science Center. Sutter is also host of Ask a Spaceman, RealSpace, and COSI Science Now.

Spoiler alert: The universe is flat. But there's a lot of subtlety packed into that innocent-looking statement. What does it mean for a 3D object to be "flat"? How do we measure the shape of the universe anyway? Since the universe is flat, is that…it? Is there anything else interesting to say?

Oh yes, there is.
Walk the line

First, we need to define what we mean by flat. The screen you're reading this on is obviously flat (I hope), and you know that the Earth is curved (I hope). But how can we quantify that mathematically? Such an exercise might be useful if we want to go around measuring the shape of the whole entire universe. [The History & Structure of the Universe (Infographic)]

One answer lies in parallel lines. If you start drawing two parallel lines on your paper and let them continue on, they'll stay perfectly parallel forever (or at least until you run out of paper). That was essentially the definition of a parallel line for a couple thousand years, so we should be good.

Let's repeat the exercise on the surface of the Earth. Start at the equator and draw a couple parallel lines, each pointing directly north. As the lines continue, they never turn left or right but still end up intersecting at the North Pole. The curvature of the Earth itself caused these initially parallel lines to end up not-so-parallel. Ergo, the Earth is curved.

The opposite of the Earth's curved shape is a saddle: on that surface, lines that start out parallel end up spreading apart from each other (in swanky mathematical circles this is known as "ultraparallel"). [I explore the possible shapes of the universe in this video.]

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The shape of the universe depends on its density. If the density is more than the critical density, the universe is closed and curves like a sphere; if less, it will curve like a saddle. But if the actual density of the universe is equal to the critical density, as scientists think it is, then it will extend forever like a flat piece of paper.

The shape of the universe depends on its density. If the density is more than the critical density, the universe is closed and curves like a sphere; if less, it will curve like a saddle. But if the actual density of the universe is equal to the critical density, as scientists think it is, then it will extend forever like a flat piece of paper. (Image credit: NASA/WMAP Science team.)

So there you have it: You can measure the "flatness" of a structure just by watching how parallel lines behave. In our 3D universe, we could watch beams of light: If, say, two lasers started out perfectly parallel, then their long-term behavior would tell us important things.
Flat as a (big) pancake

Remember that measuring the shape of the universe is a question for cosmology, the study of the entire universe. And in cosmology, nobody cares about you. Or me. Or solar systems. Or black holes. Or galaxies. In cosmology we care about the universe only at the very largest scales; small-scale bumps and wiggles are not important for this question.

The universe has all sorts of deformations in space-time where it varies from the perfectly flat. Any place where there's mass or energy, there's a corresponding bending of space-time — that's General Relativity 101. So a couple light beams would naturally collide inside a wandering black hole, or bend along weird angles after encountering a galaxy or two.

But average all those small-scale effects out and look at the big picture. When we examine very old light — say, the cosmic microwave background — that has been traveling the universe for more than 13.8 billion years, we get a true sense of the universe's shape. And the answer, as far as we can tell, to within an incredibly small margin of uncertainty, is that the universe is flat.
There is no spoon

Well, that settles that. But this article isn't over yet, which means there's more to the story.

Have you ever asked yourself if there's a difference between a cylinder and a sphere? More than likely not, but it's never too late to try new things.

Take out your piece of paper with two parallel lines on it. Go ahead, dig it out of the trash. Wrap one end around to meet the other, making a cylinder. Carefully observe the parallel lines — they remain parallel, don't they? That's because cylinders are flat.

You heard it here first: Cylinders are flat.

There's an important distinction between geometry, the behavior of parallel lines, and topology, the way a space can get all twisted up. While the geometry of the universe is very well measured (again, it's flat), the topology is not. And here's a bonus fact: not only can we not determine the topology of the universe from observations, but there are also no laws of physics that predict or restrict the topology.

With your 2D piece of paper, you can connect the ends a few different ways. Connect one of the dimensions normally and you have a cylinder. Flip one edge over before connecting and you've made a Mobius strip. Connect two dimensions, the top to the bottom and one side to the other, and you have a torus (aka a donut).

In our 3D universe, there are lots of options — 18 known ones, to be precise. Mobius strips, Klein bottles and Hantzsche-Wendt space manifolds are all non-trivial topologies that share something in common: if you travel far enough in one direction, you come back to where you started. In the case of flipped dimensions, when you come back to your starting point, you'll find yourself upside down without having tried to do so at all. [Watch: Explaining the Shape of the Universe.]

Of course we've looked to see if our universe is connected like this; we don't see any copies of galaxies, and we don't see the cosmic microwave background intersecting itself. If the universe is pretzeled-up, it's on scales far, far larger than what we can observe.

So don't get too excited by possibility of living in a real-life version of the "Asteroids" game — which, as you now know, is played on the surface of a donut.

 

[Truthspeak]

Observe it using your eyes, not mind

 

[Truthspeak]

Whoever claim that the earth is a ball without any scientific evidence, the burden of proof is on them.

Assumption is not a proof of scientific evidence.

And go observe who is trying hard to make you to believe you are living on a round earth without any scientific evidence

And to link all these assumptions with evolution theory and many other “theories”

Theories are not proof of scientific evidence

 

[laksaboy]

All your answers can be found in this book. It also tells you about what's really going on with the galaxies and in the universe.

Several pdf editions of the same book:
https://www.angelfire.com/realm3/oahspedownload/OAHSPE.pdf
https://www.globalgreyebooks.com/ebooks1/john-ballou-newbrough/oahspe/oahspe.pdf
https://oahspestandardedition.com/OAHSPE_Standard_Edition_for_Screen_Reading.pdf

Internet Archive:
https://archive.org/details/thewordsofjehovih/page/n7/mode/2up

Japan was the remainder of the sunken Pan continent. Ja-Pan, get it?

They know.

 

[Leongsam]

Observe it using your eyes, not mind

It may look round to the human eye but the curvature is an optical illusion caused by the bending of spacetime due to gravitational forces.

 

[Truthspeak]

It may look round to the human eye but the curvature is an optical illusion caused by the bending of spacetime due to gravitational forces.

There is no may. Only flat or not flat. For dumbfuck who still can’t comprehend why there is so much ridiculing and censorship about the shape of the earth from the government, mainstream media and controlled oppositions. Then they are just hopeless.

 

[sbfuncle]

Walau this kind of thing is easy to verify.
Just ask 1 person who thinks earth is flat and 1 person who think is not and a 3rd person who is unsure then take a space shutter out and clarify lor. We need a neutral person to be there in case the other 2 insist they are correct even after seeing the result.

 

[GOD IS MY DOG]

so all along it's an optical illusion ah........................so Amy Yip and Pamela Anderson.................they're actually also flat lah ???

 

[Truthspeak]

Walau this kind of thing is easy to verify.
Just ask 1 person who thinks earth is flat and 1 person who think is not and a 3rd person who is unsure then take a space shutter out and clarify lor. We need a neutral person to be there in case the other 2 insist they are correct even after seeing the result.

At least, you know there is a need to verify. For globetards, there is no need to verify but just “believe”. Trust the authorities

 

[sbfuncle]

At least, you know there is a need to verify. For globetards, there is no need to verify but just “believe”. Trust the authorities

Yeah the result can only be 3-0, 2-1 or 1-2 .
Make sure all these 3 person doesn't know each other and never discuss before in case the neutral person kana bribe.

 

[Leongsam]

Walau this kind of thing is easy to verify.
Just ask 1 person who thinks earth is flat and 1 person who think is not and a 3rd person who is unsure then take a space shutter out and clarify lor. We need a neutral person to be there in case the other 2 insist they are correct even after seeing the result.

The problem is that the human brain can easily be fooled so the person in the space shuttle might think he is seeing a sphere but in reality the earth is flat.

 

[Hightech88]

At least, you know there is a need to verify. For globetards, there is no need to verify but just “believe”. Trust the authorities

How about the moon? Does it look flat to you?

 

[Truthspeak]

How about the moon? Does it look flat to you?

Whatever evolves and happens above you has no bearing to the shape of the earth. This is exactly what a typical “globetard” love to cherrypick. We are discussing about the shape of the earth, not the moon.

 

[sbfuncle]

The problem is that the human brain can easily be fooled so the person in the space shuttle might think he is seeing a sphere but in reality the earth is flat.

This is true when the verification journey is not done in full completion.
At a certain distance, this illusion can happen until when the distant is far enough to see it as a ball. If at this stage still have doubt, the space shutter has to travel around it. If the earth is flat, at the turning angle we should be seeing narrower than the ground area of the earth.

 

[Hightech88]

Whatever evolves and happens above you has no bearing to the shape of the earth. This is exactly what a typical “globetard” love to cherrypick. We are discussing about the shape of the earth, not the moon.

Nobody here has definite experience to confirm the shape of earth unless one takes a space shuttle to observe.

Other than that, the only logical comparison with the closest celestial object to earth which is the moon.

If the moon looks round and spherical, isn't it reasonable to think that the earth is round and spherical too?

Unless you wish to argue for the sake or argument again that there is no evidence etc. LOL.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

Flat Earth is an archaic and scientifically disproven conception of the Earth's shape as a plane or disk. Many ancient cultures subscribed to a flat-Earth cosmography, notably including ancient near eastern cosmology. The model has undergone a recent resurgence as a conspiracy theory.[1]

The idea of a spherical Earth appeared in ancient Greek philosophy with Pythagoras (6th century BC). However, most pre-Socratics (6th–5th century BC) retained the flat-Earth model. In the early 4th century BC, Plato wrote about a spherical Earth. By about 330 BC, his former student Aristotle had provided strong empirical evidence for a spherical Earth. Knowledge of the Earth's global shape gradually began to spread beyond the Hellenistic world.[2][3][4][5] By the early period of the Christian Church, the spherical view was widely held, with some notable exceptions. In contrast, ancient Chinese scholars consistently describe the Earth as flat, and this perception remained unchanged until their encounters with Jesuit missionaries in the 17th century.[6] Traditionalist Muslim scholars have maintained that the earth is flat, though, since the 9th century, Muslim scholars tended to believe in a spherical Earth.[7][8]

It is a historical myth that medieval Europeans generally thought the Earth was flat.[9] This myth was created in the 17th century by Protestants to argue against Catholic teachings.[10] More recently, flat earth theory has seen an increase in popularity with modern flat Earth societies, and unaffiliated individuals using social media.[11][12] Despite the scientific facts and obvious effects of Earth's sphericity, pseudoscientific[13] flat-Earth conspiracy theories persist. In a 2018 study reported on by Scientific American, only 82% of 18 to 24 year old respondents agreed with the statement "I have always believed the world is round". However, a firm belief in a flat Earth is rare, with less than 2% acceptance in all age groups.[14]


Flat Earth map drawn by Orlando Ferguson in 1893. The map contains several references to biblical passages as well as various supposed refutations of the "Globe Theory".

In other words....

 

[Truthspeak]

Nobody here has definite experience to confirm the shape of earth unless one takes a space shuttle to observe.

Other than that, the only logical comparison with the closest celestial object to earth which is the moon.

If the moon looks round and spherical, isn't it reasonable to think that the earth is round and spherical too?

Unless you wish to argue for the sake or argument again that there is no evidence etc. LOL.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

Flat Earth is an archaic and scientifically disproven conception of the Earth's shape as a plane or disk. Many ancient cultures subscribed to a flat-Earth cosmography, notably including ancient near eastern cosmology. The model has undergone a recent resurgence as a conspiracy theory.[1]

The idea of a spherical Earth appeared in ancient Greek philosophy with Pythagoras (6th century BC). However, most pre-Socratics (6th–5th century BC) retained the flat-Earth model. In the early 4th century BC, Plato wrote about a spherical Earth. By about 330 BC, his former student Aristotle had provided strong empirical evidence for a spherical Earth. Knowledge of the Earth's global shape gradually began to spread beyond the Hellenistic world.[2][3][4][5] By the early period of the Christian Church, the spherical view was widely held, with some notable exceptions. In contrast, ancient Chinese scholars consistently describe the Earth as flat, and this perception remained unchanged until their encounters with Jesuit missionaries in the 17th century.[6] Traditionalist Muslim scholars have maintained that the earth is flat, though, since the 9th century, Muslim scholars tended to believe in a spherical Earth.[7][8]

It is a historical myth that medieval Europeans generally thought the Earth was flat.[9] This myth was created in the 17th century by Protestants to argue against Catholic teachings.[10] More recently, flat earth theory has seen an increase in popularity with modern flat Earth societies, and unaffiliated individuals using social media.[11][12] Despite the scientific facts and obvious effects of Earth's sphericity, pseudoscientific[13] flat-Earth conspiracy theories persist. In a 2018 study reported on by Scientific American, only 82% of 18 to 24 year old respondents agreed with the statement "I have always believed the world is round". However, a firm belief in a flat Earth is rare, with less than 2% acceptance in all age groups.[14]


Flat Earth map drawn by Orlando Ferguson in 1893. The map contains several references to biblical passages as well as various supposed refutations of the "Globe Theory".

In other words....

At this stage after covid, we still have globetards ridiculing flat earthers already tell us about your IQ.

https://www.courier-journal.com/sto...thers-hurting-covid-vaccine-rates/5797328001/

On one hand, no one can confirm the shape, on the other hand, assumption at it best

 

[Leongsam]

Nobody here has definite experience to confirm the shape of earth unless one takes a space shuttle to observe.

Other than that, the only logical comparison with the closest celestial object to earth which is the moon.

If the moon looks round and spherical, isn't it reasonable to think that the earth is round and spherical too?

Unless you wish to argue for the sake or argument again that there is no evidence etc. LOL.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth

Flat Earth is an archaic and scientifically disproven conception of the Earth's shape as a plane or disk. Many ancient cultures subscribed to a flat-Earth cosmography, notably including ancient near eastern cosmology. The model has undergone a recent resurgence as a conspiracy theory.[1]

The idea of a spherical Earth appeared in ancient Greek philosophy with Pythagoras (6th century BC). However, most pre-Socratics (6th–5th century BC) retained the flat-Earth model. In the early 4th century BC, Plato wrote about a spherical Earth. By about 330 BC, his former student Aristotle had provided strong empirical evidence for a spherical Earth. Knowledge of the Earth's global shape gradually began to spread beyond the Hellenistic world.[2][3][4][5] By the early period of the Christian Church, the spherical view was widely held, with some notable exceptions. In contrast, ancient Chinese scholars consistently describe the Earth as flat, and this perception remained unchanged until their encounters with Jesuit missionaries in the 17th century.[6] Traditionalist Muslim scholars have maintained that the earth is flat, though, since the 9th century, Muslim scholars tended to believe in a spherical Earth.[7][8]

It is a historical myth that medieval Europeans generally thought the Earth was flat.[9] This myth was created in the 17th century by Protestants to argue against Catholic teachings.[10] More recently, flat earth theory has seen an increase in popularity with modern flat Earth societies, and unaffiliated individuals using social media.[11][12] Despite the scientific facts and obvious effects of Earth's sphericity, pseudoscientific[13] flat-Earth conspiracy theories persist. In a 2018 study reported on by Scientific American, only 82% of 18 to 24 year old respondents agreed with the statement "I have always believed the world is round". However, a firm belief in a flat Earth is rare, with less than 2% acceptance in all age groups.[14]


Flat Earth map drawn by Orlando Ferguson in 1893. The map contains several references to biblical passages as well as various supposed refutations of the "Globe Theory".

In other words....

I'm one of the top 2% who believe the earth is flat because I cannot comprehend how a sphere can exist in a flat universe.

 

[Truthspeak]

If you have an IQ, it is the flat earthers who are the hardworking ones conducting the scientific experiments, not the globetards. All globetards do is to pull out misinformation from mainstream media site from NASA and Wikipedia.

 

[Leongsam]

Astrophysicists create the first accurate map of the universe: It's very flat, and probably infinite​

Astrophysicists have compiled the most accurate map ever of the universe. Spanning a distance of over six billion light years, the new map plots the location of 1.2 million galaxies with an accuracy of 99%. This means that the distance between galaxies on the map is accurate to within 1% of the actual distance -- an astonishing feat when you consider that we're doing the measuring from a single point of space and observing tiny specks of light that are trillions of miles away. The new map provides some of the best evidence that the universe is flat, and that it's "likely" the universe is infinite, extending forever into space and time.
By Sebastian Anthony January 9, 2014

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After analyzing more than three years of continuous observations from one of the world's widest-angle telescopes in New Mexico, astrophysicists have compiled the most accurate map ever of the universe. Spanning a distance of over six billion light years, the new map plots the location of 1.2 million galaxies with an accuracy of 99%. This means that the distance between galaxies on the map is accurate to within 1% of the actual distance -- an astonishing feat when you consider that we're doing the measuring from a single point of space and observing tiny specks of light that are trillions of miles away. The new map provides some of the best evidence that the universe is flat, and that it's "likely" the universe is infinite, extending forever into space and time.
This new map was created from the BOSS(Opens in a new window) -- Baryon Oscillation Spectroscopic Survey -- which is one of the projects being carried out by the Sloan Digital Sky Survey III on a 2.5-meter wide-angle reflector telescope at the Apache Point Observatory in New Mexico. The BOSS, which probably has the coolest name in all of science, stares up at the night sky looking for baryon acoustic oscillations -- waves of particles and energy that were created when the universe was young, and continue to spread like ripples in a pond. Without getting too deep into the physics of it, at some point during the universe's formative years, an overdense region of primordial plasma exploded outwards, sending baryons (another word for protons and neutrons) out into space. Because these baryon waves move at a standard speed, it's possible to use them as a very accurate intergalactic ruler (measuring almost exactly 490 million light years in this case). With this ruler in hand, BOSS can rather accurately map where galaxies are located in the universe.

An artist's rendition of the BOSS galactic map


"Twenty years ago astronomers were arguing about estimates that differed by up to 50%. Five years ago, we'd refined that uncertainty to 5%; a year ago it was 2%," BOSS chief investigator David Schlegel of the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory told the BBC(Opens in a new window). "One percent accuracy will be the standard for a long time to come."
At this point you're probably wondering what we can do with a 99%-accurate map of the nearby universe (yes, this isn't a map of the entire universe -- 1.2 million galaxies is just a tiny sliver). Will it be used by NASA to plot its first intergalactic mission? No (but it's nice to dream). A highly accurate galactic ruler and map is useful for one main reason: It tells us a lot about how the universe actually functions. If you have an accurate galactic ruler, it then becomes fairly easy to work out whether the universe is flat or curved, and whether the universe is static, expanding, or contracting. [Research paper: arXiv:1312.4877(Opens in a new window) - "The clustering of galaxies in the SDSS-III Baryon Oscillation Spectroscopic Survey: Baryon Acoustic Oscillations in the Data Release 10 and 11 galaxy samples"]

Not a map of the universe, but According to the BOSS researchers, who presented their work at the 223rd meeting of the American Astronomical Society this week, the findings strongly indicate that the universe is "extraordinarily flat" and that the universe is probably infinite, extending forever in space and time. A flat universe would imply that dark energy, if it exists, is evenly spread throughout the universe, perhaps as a cosmological constant, and does not vary in strength (which would cause curvature). Because we can't currently "see" faster than the speed of light, it's hard to say whether the universe is truly infinite or just constantly expanding. Still, an infinite universe would be quite something.