• IP addresses are NOT logged in this forum so there's no point asking. Please note that this forum is full of homophobes, racists, lunatics, schizophrenics & absolute nut jobs with a smattering of geniuses, Chinese chauvinists, Moderate Muslims and last but not least a couple of "know-it-alls" constantly sprouting their dubious wisdom. If you believe that content generated by unsavory characters might cause you offense PLEASE LEAVE NOW! Sammyboy Admin and Staff are not responsible for your hurt feelings should you choose to read any of the content here.

    The OTHER forum is HERE so please stop asking.

Sunday Times: Bangla workers want to fuck Indon and Pinoy maids

Rogue Trader

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Finding love in a foreign land
More romances between work-permit holders bloom here


By Lin Wenjian

Man sees girl. He scribbles his contact number on a piece of paper and throws it to her. If she is interested, she will SMS him.

Or he flashes a winsome smile at a prospect. A conversation follows if she responds and phone numbers are exchanged.

This is how foreign workers here - mostly those who are on work permits - pair off for possible romance in popular hangout spots such as Lucky Plaza and Little India.

Apparently, many do hit it off.

20110503ssmaidjpg1304390181614-data.jpg


Over the past two Sundays, when The Sunday Times visited the two areas, foreign men and women holding hands were a common sight.

Ms Remy B., 28, a Filipino maid, said Lucky Plaza is favoured by foreign men - mostly from India or Bangladesh - on the prowl for Filipina or Indonesian maids.

The slim-built Ms Remy, who is single, has had men coming up to her to ask her for her number. 'But I don't want a boyfriend. I'm here to work.'

The recent case of a Sri Lankan maid being tried at the High Court for culpable homicide has thrown the spotlight on intimate relationships between foreigners here.

Puwaneswary Tharmalingam, 33, is accused of killing her lover, Mr Murugaiyan Selvam, 32, an Indian national who worked here as a project supervisor.

If convicted, she could be jailed for life.

While there are no official figures on the number of such relationships, Mr Emil Dewantara, third secretary of consular affairs at the Indonesian Embassy, said it sees about 20 to 30 cases a year of employers complaining about their maids' poor work performance after getting boyfriends.

It is not known where they met the men or whether these grouses resulted in any losing their jobs.

But some employment agencies said more employers are returning their maids after finding out about their boyfriends.

maid03jpg1320316469717-data.jpg


'In the last two years, there were about four or five cases per year, which is double what it used to be,' said Ms Shirley Ng, owner of Orange Employment.

She noted that the issue of maids having boyfriends has grown in the last two years because more of them have regular days off now.

'It started with the liberation of the day off for maids about one or two years ago,' she added.

Other maid agency owners said while they do not keep track of the numbers, isolated cases of dissatisfied employers returning their domestic helpers are common.

Ms Sumen Rai, owner of Status Employment, said, on average, she has to send home three maids a year.

'I don't redeploy them to other homes as they are usually sent back by the employers because they brought their boyfriends into the houses. The moment they do that, they have crossed the line,' she added.

Mr Gary Chin, managing director of Nation Employment, one of the biggest maid agencies, said most employers are not comfortable with the idea of their maids having boyfriends 'as they don't feel safe'.

Mr Peter Chan, manager of Javamaids, said the employers are not at home during the day and worry about the safety of other family members if the maids let their boyfriends into the home.

Many employers are also worried that the foreign men might steal from their homes.

In Puwaneswary's case, it was revealed in court that she had stolen her employers' chequebook and her lover pocketed $5,000 from forging the signature.

Ms K. Jayaprema, president of the Association of Employment Agencies (Singapore), said maid agencies are looking at educating maids, 'to get them to use their days off in a better way, like to rest and recharge themselves'.

She said: 'We are not being judgmental... We are seeing more of them becoming pregnant, and their employers have to send them home.

'Then what is going to happen to their families back home?'

There are no records available on how many maids are found to be pregnant during their bi-annual medical check-ups, but Mr Dewantara said he sees an average of three to five cases a year at the embassy where employers suspect their maids of having sex with boyfriends after bringing them home.

Previously, employers could lose their $5,000 security bond if their maids got pregnant but the Ministry of Manpower (MOM) revised the bond conditions in January last year.

Now, employers are required to inform maids only of the work-permit conditions and contact the authorities should the maid get pregnant.

MOM's regulations state that a maid cannot get pregnant during the duration of her contract. Work-permit holders have to seek its approval if they wish to marry a Singapore citizen or permanent resident.

However, there are no restrictions on work-permit holders marrying each other, as seen in the case of a couple from Myanmar who wed here in August.

Mr Jolovan Wham, executive director of non-governmental group Humanitarian Organisation for Migration Economics (Home), said employers should not refrain from giving their maid days off because of fears that she might get pregnant.

'If there is concern about pregnancies, then sex education is the answer. I doubt parents of teenage children ban them from socialising because they are afraid their kids will get pregnant,' he added.

Ms Bridget Tan, Home's founder-cum-president, said it is natural for foreign workers to be attracted to the opposite sex. 'The prejudices of the employers and the employment agents make these healthy relationships clandestine and unnatural,' she said.

But it is not all sweet kisses and blue skies for these couples.

Ms Amelia Mante, 41, a Filipino maid, said some foreign men are extremely possessive and will think nothing of getting into jealousy-fuelled fights.

'I have seen some who fight with other men over their girlfriends when they are drunk,' she said.

Ms Remy said: 'The men also have less money to send home because they have to help their girlfriends to top up their phone cards.'


[email protected]
 

Rogue Trader

Alfrescian (Inf)
Asset
Got part 2 to this Sunday Times special feature...

WE ARE JUST LONELY'


Indonesian maid Aisa's employers are nice to her but she would rather not tell them about her Bangladeshi boyfriend.

'No need to tell them,' said the 35-year-old Central Java native who has been dating construction worker Md Shamin, 29, for three months.

He sent her a text message in August, asking to be her friend. He had got her phone number from a co-worker.

Aisa - a former waitress - promptly replied and they have been chatting every day since, using simple English and mostly in the evening when they have finished work.

She works for a family in Ang Mo Kio while he does wiring work for a company in Woodlands.

About once a month, they meet, usually at a shopping centre near her employer's home.

When The Sunday Times spoke to the couple two weeks ago, they were chatting and in high spirits at a stone table at a void deck near Ang Mo Kio MRT station.

Aisa said she had no intention of finding a boyfriend when she first arrived here in October last year, but responded when Mr Shamin sent her a text message.

'I feel lonely. My life is very hard. Sometimes when my family calls me to tell me about problems at home or to ask for money, I want someone to talk to,' said Aisa, a divorcee with four children aged between nine and 14.

Both insisted they were in a relationship for each other's company - not money or sex.

'We are friend-friend only,' Mr Shamin said, adding that his employers are aware of his relationship and have given their blessings.

He said he does not give Aisa money or gifts.

'I earn $800 or $900 a month and send $600 home. The rest I use for food and phone cards.'

Like Mr Shamin, construction supervisor Md Shakien, 28, is dating an Indonesian maid 'because I am lonely'.

He plans to marry his 30-year-old sweetheart of six months who wants to be known as Lala. They were introduced by mutual friends during an outing.

'I have told my family about her. But now we want to earn more money first,' said the man who has worked here since 2003.

During this interview two Sundays ago near Little India, the couple were out on their once-a-month date. Lala, who came here in 2009, gets a day off once a month. But they call each other daily.

While her employers have said they had no objections to her having a boyfriend, she decided to keep it hush-hush 'to prevent trouble'.

The petite woman added: 'We have other problems too. I get angry when he doesn't answer my calls. Even if he is busy, he can tell me that.'

Asked what they felt about Singaporeans frowning upon romance between foreign workers, both couples said the best way to deal with that is to feign ignorance.

Aisa said: 'Whatever people want to think or say, let them. I don't care.'

Mr Shakien, shrugging his shoulders, said: 'We have a plan for our future so we will just work hard on it.'


THE HUNTING GROUND

The men can be relentless in their wooing of women at Lucky Plaza where many work-permit holders flock to on their days-off.

Said Ms Amelia Mante, 41, a Filipino maid: 'The Bangladeshi and Indian workers are very annoying sometimes. They will follow the maids around even when they tell them they are not interested.'

Ms Mante, who volunteers at migrant workers help group Humanitarian Organisation for Migration Economics' office at the mall, said the men will gather outside shops, in the foodcourt and around the taxi stand.

Another maid, Ms Remy B., 28, said she has been propositioned a few times.

'They come up and ask how much I want,' she said, adding: 'The male workers are interested only in sex.'

On the day The Sunday Times visited, couples were spotted heading towards secluded corners in the building. They remained out of public view for a while before emerging.

Ms Remy, who is single, said maids stand to gain from having relationships.

'My friends who have boyfriends said they will ask them to top up their phone cards or give them money to spend,' she added.
 
Top