SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Paper

[aurvandil]

I was going through the voting record in the Hansard and found the following shocking revelation. Lee Kuan Yew and the following prominent PAP MPs did not vote to support the White Paper! I was completely stunned and shocked.

http://160.96.186.106/search/report.jsp?currentPubID=00078672-WA

DID NOT VOTE

Mr Lee Kuan Yew (MP, Tanjong Pagar GRC)
Dr Chia Shi-Lu (MP, Tangong Pagar GRC)
Ms Indranee Rajah (MP, Tanjong Pagar GRC)
Mr Inderjit Singh (MP, Ang Mo Kio GRC)
Mr Raymond Lim Siang Keat (MP, East Coast GRC)
Dr Ng Eng Hen (Minister for Defence, Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC)
Ms Tan Su Shan (NMP)
Mr Alvin Yeo (MP, Chua Chu Kang GRC)

Ayes

1. Ang Hin Kee (MP, Ang Mo Kio GRC)
2. Ang Wei Neng (MP, Jurong GRC)
3. Baey Yam Keng (MP, Tampines GRC)
4. Chan Chun Sing (MP, Tanjong Pagar GRC)
5. Chong, Charles (MP, Joo Chiat)
6. Christopher de Souza (MP, Holland-Bukit Timah GRC)
7. Dhinakaran, R (NMP)
8. Fang, Nicholas (NMP)
9. Fatimah Lateef (MP, Marine Parade GRC)
10. Fong, Arthur (MP, West Coast GRC)
11. Foo Chee Keng, Cedric (MP, Pioneer)
12. Foo Mee Har (MP, West Coast GRC)
13. Fu Hai Yien, Grace (Minister, Prime Minister's Office, Second Minister for the Environment and Water Resources and Second Minister for Foreign Affairs, Yuhua)
14. Gan Kim Yong (Minister for Health and Government Whip, Chua Chu Kang GRC)
15. Gan Thiam Poh (MP, Pasir Ris-Punggol GRC)
16. Goh Chok Tong (Emeritus Senior Minister, MP, Marine Parade GRC)
17. Halimah Yacob (Speaker, Jurong GRC)
18.Hawazi Daipi (Senior Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Education & Ministry of Manpower, Sembawang GRC)
19. Heng Chee How (Senior Minister of State, Prime Minister’s Office and Deputy Leader of the House, Whampoa)
20. Heng Swee Keat (Minister for Education, Tampines GRC)
21. Hri Kumar Nair (MP, Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC)
22. Intan Azura Mokhtar (MP, Ang Mo Kio GRC)
23. Iswaran, S (Minister, Prime Minister’s Office, Second Minister for Home Affairs and Second Minister for Trade and Industry, West Coast GRC)
24. Janil Puthucheary (MP, Pasir Ris-Punggol GRC)
25. Khaw Boon Wan (Minister for National Development, Sembawang GRC)
26. Khor Lean Suan, Amy (Minister of State, Ministry of Health and Ministry of Manpower, Mayor, South West District and Deputy Government Whip, Hong Kah North)
27. Lam Pin Min (MP, Sengkang West)
28. Lee Bee Wah (MP, Nee Soon GRC)
29. Lee, Desmond (MP, Jurong GRC)
30. Lee, Ellen (MP, Sembawang GRC)
31. Lee Hsien Loong (Prime Minister, Ang Mo Kio GRC)
32. Lee Yi Shyan (Senior Minister of State, Ministry of Trade and Industry and Ministry of National Development, East Coast GRC)
33. Liang Eng Hwa (MP, Holland-Bukit Timah GRC)
34. Liew, Mary (NMP)
35. Lim Biow Chuan (MP, Mountbatten)
36. Lim Hng Kiang (Minister for Trade and Industry, West Coast GRC)
37. Lim Swee Say (Minister, Prime Minister's Office, East Coast GRC)
38. Lim Wee Kiak (MP, Nee Soon GRC)
39. Low, Penny (MP, Pasir Ris-Punggol GRC)
40. Low Yen Ling (MP, Chua Chu Kang GRC)
41. Lui Tuck Yew (Minister for Transport, Moulmein-Kallang GRC)
42. Mah Bow Tan (MP, Tampines GRC)
43. Masagos Zulkifli B M M (Senior Minister of State, Ministry of Home Affairs and Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Tampines GRC)
44. Mohamad Maliki Bin Osman (Senior Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of National Development & Ministry of Defence and Mayor, South East District, East Coast GRC)
45. Muhammad Faishal Ibrahim (Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Health & Ministry of Transport, Nee Soon GRC)
46. Neo, Lily (MP, Tanjong Pagar GRC)
47. Ng Phek Hoong, Irene (MP, Tampines GRC)
48. Ong, David (MP, Jurong GRC)
49. Ong Teng Koon (MP, Sembawang GRC)
50. Phua Lay Peng, Denise (MP, Moulmein-Kallang GRC)
51. Seah Kian Peng (Deputy Speaker, Marine Parade GRC)
52. Seng Han Thong (MP, Ang Mo Kio GRC)
53. Shanmugam, K (Minister for Foreign Affairs and Minister for Law, Nee Soon GRC)
54. Sim Ann (Senior Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Communications and Information & Ministry of Education, Holland-Bukit Timah GRC)
55. Sitoh Yih Pin (MP, Potong Pasir)
56. Tan Chin Siong, Sam (Senior Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Foreign Affairs & Ministry of Culture, Community and Youth & Mayor, Central Singapore District, Radin Mas)
57. Tan Chuan-Jin (Acting Minister for Manpower and Senior Minister of State, Ministry of National Development, Marine Parade GRC)
58. Tan Soon Neo, Jessica (MP, East Coast GRC)
59. Tay Teck Guan, Patrick (MP, Nee Soon GRC)
60. Teo Chee Hean (Deputy Prime Minister, Coordinating Minister for National Security and Minister for Home Affairs, Pasir Ris-Punggol GRC)
61. Teo Ho Pin (Mayor, North West District & Deputy Government Whip, Bukit Panjang)
62. Teo, Josephine (Minister of State, Ministry of Finance and Ministry of Transport, Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC)
63. Teo Ser Luck (Minister of State, Ministry of Trade and Industry and Mayor, North East District, Pasir Ris-Punggol GRC)
64. Teo Siong Seng (NMP)
65. Tharman Shanmugaratnam (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Finance, Jurong GRC)
66. Tin Pei Ling (MP, Marine Parade GRC)
67. Tong Chun Fai, Edwin (MP, Moulmein-Kallang GRC)
68. Vikram Nair (MP, Sembawang GRC)
69. Vivian Balakrishnan (Minister for the Environment and Water Resources, Holland-Bukit Timah GRC)
70. Wong Kan Seng (MP, Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC)
71. Wong, Lawrence (Acting Minister for Culture, Community and Youth and Senior Minister of State, Ministry of Communications and Information, West Coast GRC)
72. Yaacob Ibrahim (Minister for Communications and Information and Minister-in-charge of Muslim Affairs, Moulmein-Kallang GRC)
73. Yam, Alex (MP, Chua Chu Kang GRC)
74. Yeo Guat Kwang (MP, Ang Mo Kio GRC)
75. Zainal Sapari (MP, Pasir Ris-Punggol GRC)
76. Zainudin Nordin (MP, Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC)
77. Zaqy Mohamad (MP, Chua Chu Kang GRC)

Noes

1. Chen Show Mao (MP, Aljunied GRC)
2. Chiam, Lina (NCMP)
3. Faizah Jamal (NMP)
4. Giam Yean Song, Gerald (NCMP)
5. Koh, Janice (NMP)
6. Lee Li Lian (MP, Punggol East)
7. Lien, Laurence (NMP)
8. Lim, Sylvia (MP, Aljunied GRC)
9. Low Thia Khiang (MP, Aljunied GRC)
10. Muhamad Faisal Bin Abdul Manap (MP, Aljunied GRC)
11. Png Eng Huat (MP, Hougang)
12. Pritam Singh (MP, Aljunied GRC)
13. Yee Jenn Jong (NCMP)

Abstention

1. Tan Kheng Boon, Eugene (NMP)

 

[Man in the streets]

Re: SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Pap

Bro,

good info.

 

[Wildfire]

Re: SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Pap

Hi Bro,

Good info .... thanks!

It will be even more helpful is you can research and provide info on how many of those PAPies
who did not vote because of health, out-station or other exigency excuses.

Cheers

 

[aurvandil]

Re: SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Pap

So many MPs from Tanjong Pagar GRC failed to vote. Surely it cannot be because of chance.

Hi Bro,

Good info .... thanks!

It will be even more helpful is you can research and provide info on how many of those PAPies
who did not vote because of health, out-station or other exigency excuses.

Cheers

 

[Sinkie]

Re: SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Pap

I thought I read in this forum someone said the Singh voted against? Chey, wrong info.

No need to know so much of why they did not vote.

The most telling and obvious fact is knowing that all the NOES never come from PAP MPs.

That tells alot and everything about PAP. It's over.

 

[prancku]

Re: SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Pap

So many MPs from Tanjong Pagar GRC failed to vote. Surely it cannot be because of chance.

He was sick lah. Remember mini stoke??? The rest must be so busy visiting him and/or covering his MP duties. Teamwork, mah! ....

 

[Summerbee]

Re: SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Pap

He was absent lah, a number of MPs were absent. Nobody expected LTK to call for a vote, usually they expected to say 'aye' and passed it because of their overwhelming majority.

So I would NOT credit them for making an individual stand at all, they were caught by surprise. Credit went to LTK for this move that was now recorded in history.

I was going through the voting record in the Hansard and found the following shocking revelation. Lee Kuan Yew and the following prominent PAP MPs did not vote to support the White Paper! I was completely stunned and shocked.

http://160.96.186.106/search/report.jsp?currentPubID=00078672-WA

DID NOT VOTE

Mr Lee Kuan Yew (MP, Tanjong Pagar GRC)
Dr Chia Shi-Lu (MP, Tangong Pagar GRC)
Ms Indranee Rajah (MP, Tanjong Pagar GRC)
Mr Inderjit Singh (MP, Ang Mo Kio GRC)
Mr Raymond Lim Siang Keat (MP, East Coast GRC)
Dr Ng Eng Hen (Minister for Defence, Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC)
Ms Tan Su Shan (NMP)
Mr Alvin Yeo (MP, Chua Chu Kang GRC)

Ayes

1. Ang Hin Kee (MP, Ang Mo Kio GRC)
2. Ang Wei Neng (MP, Jurong GRC)
3. Baey Yam Keng (MP, Tampines GRC)
4. Chan Chun Sing (MP, Tanjong Pagar GRC)
5. Chong, Charles (MP, Joo Chiat)
6. Christopher de Souza (MP, Holland-Bukit Timah GRC)
7. Dhinakaran, R (NMP)
8. Fang, Nicholas (NMP)
9. Fatimah Lateef (MP, Marine Parade GRC)
10. Fong, Arthur (MP, West Coast GRC)
11. Foo Chee Keng, Cedric (MP, Pioneer)
12. Foo Mee Har (MP, West Coast GRC)
13. Fu Hai Yien, Grace (Minister, Prime Minister's Office, Second Minister for the Environment and Water Resources and Second Minister for Foreign Affairs, Yuhua)
14. Gan Kim Yong (Minister for Health and Government Whip, Chua Chu Kang GRC)
15. Gan Thiam Poh (MP, Pasir Ris-Punggol GRC)
16. Goh Chok Tong (Emeritus Senior Minister, MP, Marine Parade GRC)
17. Halimah Yacob (Speaker, Jurong GRC)
18.Hawazi Daipi (Senior Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Education & Ministry of Manpower, Sembawang GRC)
19. Heng Chee How (Senior Minister of State, Prime Minister’s Office and Deputy Leader of the House, Whampoa)
20. Heng Swee Keat (Minister for Education, Tampines GRC)
21. Hri Kumar Nair (MP, Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC)
22. Intan Azura Mokhtar (MP, Ang Mo Kio GRC)
23. Iswaran, S (Minister, Prime Minister’s Office, Second Minister for Home Affairs and Second Minister for Trade and Industry, West Coast GRC)
24. Janil Puthucheary (MP, Pasir Ris-Punggol GRC)
25. Khaw Boon Wan (Minister for National Development, Sembawang GRC)
26. Khor Lean Suan, Amy (Minister of State, Ministry of Health and Ministry of Manpower, Mayor, South West District and Deputy Government Whip, Hong Kah North)
27. Lam Pin Min (MP, Sengkang West)
28. Lee Bee Wah (MP, Nee Soon GRC)
29. Lee, Desmond (MP, Jurong GRC)
30. Lee, Ellen (MP, Sembawang GRC)
31. Lee Hsien Loong (Prime Minister, Ang Mo Kio GRC)
32. Lee Yi Shyan (Senior Minister of State, Ministry of Trade and Industry and Ministry of National Development, East Coast GRC)
33. Liang Eng Hwa (MP, Holland-Bukit Timah GRC)
34. Liew, Mary (NMP)
35. Lim Biow Chuan (MP, Mountbatten)
36. Lim Hng Kiang (Minister for Trade and Industry, West Coast GRC)
37. Lim Swee Say (Minister, Prime Minister's Office, East Coast GRC)
38. Lim Wee Kiak (MP, Nee Soon GRC)
39. Low, Penny (MP, Pasir Ris-Punggol GRC)
40. Low Yen Ling (MP, Chua Chu Kang GRC)
41. Lui Tuck Yew (Minister for Transport, Moulmein-Kallang GRC)
42. Mah Bow Tan (MP, Tampines GRC)
43. Masagos Zulkifli B M M (Senior Minister of State, Ministry of Home Affairs and Ministry of Foreign Affairs, Tampines GRC)
44. Mohamad Maliki Bin Osman (Senior Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of National Development & Ministry of Defence and Mayor, South East District, East Coast GRC)
45. Muhammad Faishal Ibrahim (Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Health & Ministry of Transport, Nee Soon GRC)
46. Neo, Lily (MP, Tanjong Pagar GRC)
47. Ng Phek Hoong, Irene (MP, Tampines GRC)
48. Ong, David (MP, Jurong GRC)
49. Ong Teng Koon (MP, Sembawang GRC)
50. Phua Lay Peng, Denise (MP, Moulmein-Kallang GRC)
51. Seah Kian Peng (Deputy Speaker, Marine Parade GRC)
52. Seng Han Thong (MP, Ang Mo Kio GRC)
53. Shanmugam, K (Minister for Foreign Affairs and Minister for Law, Nee Soon GRC)
54. Sim Ann (Senior Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Communications and Information & Ministry of Education, Holland-Bukit Timah GRC)
55. Sitoh Yih Pin (MP, Potong Pasir)
56. Tan Chin Siong, Sam (Senior Parliamentary Secretary, Ministry of Foreign Affairs & Ministry of Culture, Community and Youth & Mayor, Central Singapore District, Radin Mas)
57. Tan Chuan-Jin (Acting Minister for Manpower and Senior Minister of State, Ministry of National Development, Marine Parade GRC)
58. Tan Soon Neo, Jessica (MP, East Coast GRC)
59. Tay Teck Guan, Patrick (MP, Nee Soon GRC)
60. Teo Chee Hean (Deputy Prime Minister, Coordinating Minister for National Security and Minister for Home Affairs, Pasir Ris-Punggol GRC)
61. Teo Ho Pin (Mayor, North West District & Deputy Government Whip, Bukit Panjang)
62. Teo, Josephine (Minister of State, Ministry of Finance and Ministry of Transport, Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC)
63. Teo Ser Luck (Minister of State, Ministry of Trade and Industry and Mayor, North East District, Pasir Ris-Punggol GRC)
64. Teo Siong Seng (NMP)
65. Tharman Shanmugaratnam (Deputy Prime Minister and Minister for Finance, Jurong GRC)
66. Tin Pei Ling (MP, Marine Parade GRC)
67. Tong Chun Fai, Edwin (MP, Moulmein-Kallang GRC)
68. Vikram Nair (MP, Sembawang GRC)
69. Vivian Balakrishnan (Minister for the Environment and Water Resources, Holland-Bukit Timah GRC)
70. Wong Kan Seng (MP, Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC)
71. Wong, Lawrence (Acting Minister for Culture, Community and Youth and Senior Minister of State, Ministry of Communications and Information, West Coast GRC)
72. Yaacob Ibrahim (Minister for Communications and Information and Minister-in-charge of Muslim Affairs, Moulmein-Kallang GRC)
73. Yam, Alex (MP, Chua Chu Kang GRC)
74. Yeo Guat Kwang (MP, Ang Mo Kio GRC)
75. Zainal Sapari (MP, Pasir Ris-Punggol GRC)
76. Zainudin Nordin (MP, Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC)
77. Zaqy Mohamad (MP, Chua Chu Kang GRC)

Noes

1. Chen Show Mao (MP, Aljunied GRC)
2. Chiam, Lina (NCMP)
3. Faizah Jamal (NMP)
4. Giam Yean Song, Gerald (NCMP)
5. Koh, Janice (NMP)
6. Lee Li Lian (MP, Punggol East)
7. Lien, Laurence (NMP)
8. Lim, Sylvia (MP, Aljunied GRC)
9. Low Thia Khiang (MP, Aljunied GRC)
10. Muhamad Faisal Bin Abdul Manap (MP, Aljunied GRC)
11. Png Eng Huat (MP, Hougang)
12. Pritam Singh (MP, Aljunied GRC)
13. Yee Jenn Jong (NCMP)

Abstention

1. Tan Kheng Boon, Eugene (NMP)

 

[cunnilaubu]

Re: SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Pap

I was going through the voting record in the Hansard and found the following shocking revelation. Lee Kuan Yew and the following prominent PAP MPs did not vote to support the White Paper! I was completely stunned and shocked.

Uncle,

How many of those didn't vote were present on that day? LKY was absence, the bayi was present. What about the rest?

 

[watchman8]

Re: SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Pap

It will be even more helpful is you can research and provide info on how many of those PAPies
who did not vote because of health, out-station or other exigency excuses.

Let me fill you in.

Mr Lee Kuan Yew (MP, Tanjong Pagar GRC) - on MC for headache

Dr Chia Shi-Lu (MP, Tangong Pagar GRC) - busy in clinic attending to a rich client-patient

Ms Indranee Rajah (MP, Tanjong Pagar GRC) - out for power dating event

Mr Inderjit Singh (MP, Ang Mo Kio GRC) - confused on whether he should vote yes or no, given that he gave 2 entirely different speeches on this matter

Mr Raymond Lim Siang Keat (MP, East Coast GRC) - still angry with LHL for throwing him under the bus (pun intended) after GE 2011. Hence boycotting any major vote until 2016

Dr Ng Eng Hen (Minister for Defence, Bishan-Toa Payoh GRC) - hidding in toilet. Trying not to vote so that he can differentiate himself from TCH.

Ms Tan Su Shan (NMP) - busy counting money and shifting assets to safer domiciles (both for herself and her ultra high networth clients)

Mr Alvin Yeo (MP, Chua Chu Kang GRC) - stayed too far from Parliament, and trapped in BKE to PIE jam.

 

[steffychun]

Re: SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Pap

Ng Eng Hen--Defence. But already surrendered Singapore to FT.

 

[Thick Face Black Heart]

Re: SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Pap

I was going through the voting record in the Hansard and found the following shocking revelation. Lee Kuan Yew and the following prominent PAP MPs did not vote to support the White Paper! I was completely stunned and shocked.

Could it be they did not know LTK would call for a division and so felt free to absent themselves?

 

[steffychun]

Re: SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Pap

Could it be they did not know LTK would call for a division and so felt free to absent themselves?

Great call by LTK. They all quickly left before the chambers doors were sealed. Maybe those who didnt vote left early cause of incontinence.

 

[aurvandil]

Re: SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Pap

It is too coincidental for so many MPs from Tanjong Pagar GRC to miss this vote after such a charged debate.

I heard that the old man is still not sold on the idea of such a large population increase and opposes the White Paper. I am sure he has seen the empirical studies which is why his ideas are closer to the Blue Paper put up by WP. The old man feels his son is being led astray by TCH and is pained that his son would take the counsel of TCH over his. Consequently he feels that TCH is now the greatest threat to HIS PAP.

The old man's views are shared by Ng Eng Hen who represent the powerful interests of the Ng Teng Fong property clan. These are understandably worried by the downward spiral in the PAP's support.

The opposition by these two heavyweights emboldend other similarly opposed to not vote. Not all of course did it for policy reasons. Raymond Lim for example did it more because he is still angry that he was dropped from Cabinet.

Incidentally, there is a very simple procedure to delay the vote until all want to vote are present and accounted for. There was absolutely nothing to compel the vote to proceed.My hypothesis is that the vote proceeded because it was better that it was recorded that they did not vote rather than they abstained.

Could it be they did not know LTK would call for a division and so felt free to absent themselves?

 

[ChaoPappyPoodle]

Re: SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Pap

You give too much positive attribute to the old man. The influx began years ago during GCT and it certainly was LKY's brainchild. The 6.9 million target is not a far fetched idea as it is in tandem with the FT increase in the past 15 years. The old man not voting if it can be attributed to him deliberately not wanting to vote versus him being ill can only mean that he doesn't want to be seen to be linked to the adulteration of SG by FTs. Yes you will find him on occasions supporting more FTs in SG as is the case on many occasions. The spur on their backs quote was not a false rumour but a direct quote from him.

You are talking about one of the biggest scums on earth so please do not forget that. I have said on many occasions that he doesn't care if SG falls miserably in 20 years time as long as it is a decent number of years after his death. This is to justify his place in SG history as a hero. All dictators have this mindset which is to entrench their position in history positively after their deaths.

I will even bet my last dollar that he desires for SG to fail after his death just so that Singaporeans will miss him. He was the one that started cronyism and high paid civil servants that he knows very well will lead to the rotting of the civil service and the low quality of mercenary ministers that will come forward. He is not a stupid man and he knows very well what desires and weaknesses are in the common man.

 

[aurvandil]

Re: SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Pap

I don't think he was opposing the White Paper for the good of Singaporeans. He was opposing the White Paper because he had seen the empirical studies which showed it would be a tremendous vote loser for the PAP. He was doing it to protect the political dynasty he founded. He was doing it for his grandson who he hopes will become the 5th PM of Singapore.

You give too much positive attribute to the old man.

 

[andyfisher]

Re: SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Pap

Its not shocking as we have to see in what context harry n gang didnt vote.

only inderjit got a bit of balls to stand up and say something.

But all pappys half past six, so lets not read too much into this

 

[po2wq]

Re: SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Pap

... The old man feels his son is being led astray by TCH and is pained that his son would take the counsel of TCH over his ...

u tink ah hean was ze 1 who pushed 4 ze figure? not ah loon? ... y shud ah loon gotta listen 2 ah hean? ...

 

[aurvandil]

Re: SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Pap

TCH is the one who is closet to LHL at the moment. They are known to have a buddy buddy relationship.

TCH represent the interests of the OCBC banking clan who want to make Singapore a playground for the rich and powerful. He is the strongest proponent in the PAP for the open immigration policy which is why he is in charge of NPTD that put out the White Paper.

u tink ah hean was ze 1 who pushed 4 ze figure? not ah loon? ... y shud ah loon gotta listen 2 ah hean? ...

 

[Liquigas]

SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Pap

u tink ah hean was ze 1 who pushed 4 ze figure? not ah loon? ... y shud ah loon gotta listen 2 ah hean? ...

Ya, the two DPMs and our Defence Minister no power want lah.

The father and son are running the show and calling all the shots ...

 

[watchman8]

Re: SHOCKING - Lee Kuan Yew and other PAP heavyweights did not vote for the White Pap

You give too much positive attribute to the old man. The influx began years ago during GCT and it certainly was LKY's brainchild. The 6.9 million target is not a far fetched idea as it is in tandem with the FT increase in the past 15 years. The old man not voting if it can be attributed to him deliberately not wanting to vote versus him being ill can only mean that he doesn't want to be seen to be linked to the adulteration of SG by FTs. Yes you will find him on occasions supporting more FTs in SG as is the case on many occasions. The spur on their backs quote was not a false rumour but a direct quote from him.

I would not pin the problem of massive foreigner inflow on GCT. During GCT era, the foreigner inflow was tolerable, and possibly beneficial. It was the massive inflow from 2005 to 2012 that made life very tough for sinkies, especially the men who were discriminated against in the private sector due to NS liability.