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makapaaa

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Subscribe </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><TABLE class=msgtable cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="96%"><TBODY><TR><TD class=msg vAlign=top><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgbfr1 width="1%"> </TD><TD><TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 border=0><TBODY><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgF noWrap align=right width="1%">From: </TD><TD class=msgFname noWrap width="68%">pylae <NOBR></NOBR> </TD><TD class=msgDate noWrap align=right width="30%">6:57 am </TD></TR><TR class=msghead><TD class=msgT noWrap align=right width="1%" height=20>To: </TD><TD class=msgTname noWrap width="68%">ALL <NOBR></NOBR></TD><TD class=msgNum noWrap align=right> (1 of 3) </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgleft width="1%" rowSpan=4> </TD><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>5287.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>If a staunch ex-PAP supporter like Tan Kin Lian comes out and speak for the public, I strongly believe LeeRegime is going downhill...
Online petition for investors who bought Lehman-linked structured products
SINGAPORE: An online petition for investors here who have bought structured products linked to the collapsed US investment bank Lehman Brothers is gaining momentum.
The petition, started on Tuesday by former chief executive of Singapore insurance firm NTUC Income, Tan Kin Lian, aims to bring together those affected to discuss how to take collective action to recover their losses.
As of Wednesday evening, more than 350 people have signed up.
Many frustrated retail investors here have expressed outrage in online forums that products such as the Lehman Brothers Minibonds and DBS Group's High Notes 5 series were actually complex derivatives.
A number of people who bought these products said they felt their financial advisers had misrepresented the products as they were marketed as low-risk and suitable for conservative investors.
While the complexity of the products may have been explained in the prospectus and pricing statement, Mr Tan said many investors were clearly not properly informed of the potential risks of the products.
"These products are clearly unsuitable. Financial institutions should not offer these to the public. These are very dangerous, high-risk products. All the more, their officers actually sold it as quite safe. Now, this is clearly, in my view, a misrepresentation."
Mr Tan said under the Financial Advisers Act, an adviser who recommends a product must make sure that it is suitable for the investor.
Mr Tan hopes the Monetary Authority of Singapore (MAS) will on behalf of the investors, bring this matter to court.
"If the authority takes action, they should also look into, not just the distributor, but the originator, the financial institution that created the product, whether they have done their duty to design a reasonable product or a product that's misleading, whether they have broken some laws or not," he said.
Separately, a group of Lehman MiniBond investors here plans to meet on Wednesday to sign and submit a petition to MAS and the financial institutions involved, to seek help in recovering their investments.
On its part, MAS has urged banks and finance companies to make it a priority to deal with worried investors holding products linked to Lehman Brothers.
It added investors who consider that they were mis-sold a product or that a product was misrepresented to them should first contact the financial institution they dealt with.
DBS, meanwhile, says it has devoted additional resources to deal with customer concerns and that it is treating this matter with priority and importance.
Meanwhile, the Financial Industry Disputes Resolution Centre here says it is still too early for it to comment about the volume of cases it has received in light of the recent developments on Wall Street.
But it says it understands the anxiety felt by affected consumers and stands ready and prepared to do everything it can to help consumers with their disputes through its resolution processes. - 938LIVE

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makapaaa

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Did not the Familee market GeeAyeSee and Temasick as low risk entities, too? One should expect that Sporns' SeePeeF is more or less gone from the massive losses incurred by their mindless punting?
 

fishbuff

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everyone in ntuc income hated tan kin liang's guts when he was the CEO then. now things have improved in ntuc income.

dont think that he is FOR singaporeans, look at ntuc income IT dept, whole place is stuffed with FTs.

he is being "vocal" coz he has been kicked out by the very same govt that he ang kat (apple polish) fro the past 30 years.
 
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While the complexity of the products may have been explained in the prospectus and pricing statement, Mr Tan said many investors were clearly not properly informed of the potential risks of the products.

Mr Tan said under the Financial Advisers Act, an adviser who recommends a product must make sure that it is suitable for the investor.


I wonder: Does the Financial Advisers Act cover Debt Market?
 

congo9

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They will whip up a chart stating how much the funds will grow in a 20 to 30 years time. But i do not know if my investment will be protected even if the funds collaspe ! Or i will lose everything,right down from my initial investment ?
 

2lanu

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everyone in ntuc income hated tan kin liang's guts when he was the CEO then. now things have improved in ntuc income.

dont think that he is FOR singaporeans, look at ntuc income IT dept, whole place is stuffed with FTs.

he is being "vocal" coz he has been kicked out by the very same govt that he ang kat (apple polish) fro the past 30 years.

He is a typical traditional type of boss when at NTUC. In fact he was trying to sell insurance online and bring the premium lower of the customer. That brought the hatred to the agent I guess.

He tried doing things "cheap" and benefits to the customers. But his master think he is too old and want new guy in his position. He was being manipulated out of the position when $2mil handshake package I think. And terms stated that he could not come into the industry in 2 year. Should be coming back soon.

What I knew all from his "ang kat" too. haha
 
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They will whip up a chart stating how much the funds will grow in a 20 to 30 years time. But i do not know if my investment will be protected even if the funds collaspe ! Or i will lose everything,right down from my initial investment ?

This "fund" is not the kind of investment "fund" you are talking about. Depend on how it is actually structured, I believe there is no such thing as "growth" over 20-30 years like mutual funds. Mutual funds are diversifications of risks.

In substance, it is actually a loan to Lehman through the bank (that you took the bond). It is quite visible to anyone that if Lehman becomes lemon, so is your loan.
 

halsey02

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This Mr. Tan, is marketing himself to run for PRESIDENT, making himself looking like he the champion for the common man. But after he gets that pay plus bonus...he will be singing a different tune!.

what's new?, wasn't he from the related FamiLEE company?...do not be fooled!
 
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