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SDP: Why We Do What We Do.

Stillwaters

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Why we do what we do
Thursday, 05 March 2009
Singapore Democrats

There are those who still don't understand the SDP's strategy and approach to politics. Why do Singapore Democrats insist of defying the law and ending up in court instead of doing the ground work necessary to win elections?

The answer is simple: Because the PAP has absolutely no intention of allowing the opposition to win power through elections.


The ruling party will continue to introduce new laws and amend existing ones to block any meaningful inroads the opposition makes in elections. The introduction of the GRC system, the increase of election deposit, the restriction of the use of the Internet by opposition parties, etc are done to ensure that opposition parties remain crippled.

There is even a law that prohibits five or more people from “demonstrating opposition to the actions of the Government” or to “promote a cause or campaign” under the Miscellaneous Offences Rules.

Already the SDP and its supporters have been charged under such a law simply for distributing flyers. What's there to stop the Government from applying this law to the other opposition parties especially if they start making political headway?

And isn't the opposition's work all about promoting a campaign or cause? How can we limit our numbers to less than five in public if we want to reach out to the public more effectively? Most important, if the opposition cannot demonstrate opposition to the actions of the Government, why exist at all?

The one reason why the opposition has fared so poorly at the polls is that we have always been one step behind the PAP. When its support eroded, it introduced the GRC system. When the opposition adopted the by-election effect, it threatened the voters with HDB upgrading. When we started to attract more quality candidates, it upped the election deposit.

If we don't arrest the rules-changing, we will forever be chasing our tails. We need an independent elections commission, not an elections department that says "Yes sir" to the PM all the time.

We must stop letting the PAP fool us. More important, we must stop fooling ourselves that under present arrangements the opposition will be able to entrench ourselves as an institution.

Does this mean then that the opposition should abandon electoral politics in Singapore? No, of course not. The Singapore Democrats have said many times before: Elections are the only way for a party to come to power and govern society.

So why does the SDP participate in elections that are neither free nor fair?

Because they are good a opportunity to raise awareness of political issues. With the advancement of cyber technology, we can use elections to educate the people on their rights and responsibilities as citizens, as well as the benefits of an open and democratically accountable government.

But remember, elections only last for nine days and the excitement dies down very quickly. It is the interim four or five years that the opposition needs to get down to serious work to reform the system.

With the Internet, our work is greatly facilitated and there is no excuse for the opposition to retreat into its shell in between elections.

The success of the SDP's effort may not be immediately apparent, but like all responsible leadership we understand the need for delayed gratification. We are confident our work will bear fruit in the not-too-distant future.

In that vein we ask all Singaporeans not to be seduced by the temptation of instant success. Just as Rome was not built in a day, democracy in Singapore will take time to entrench.

But the work to reform the political system must start now.

Elections must be part of the strategy, not the strategy itself. We need to work amongst our own opposition parties to foster greater cooperation and understanding. We need to help civil society to develop civil society. And we need to encourage our fellow citizens to become actively involved in this coming elections and thereafter the work in democracy-building.

In other words, weneed to invest for the future. There is not a moment to tarry.
 

scroobal

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So why does the SDP participate in elections that are neither free nor fair?

Well said, SDP. I hope the donkeys out there know that SDP will contest the elections. Lets make sure that all guns aim at the fucking PAP and clear this country of yellow bellied arseholes.
 

lockeliberal

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Dear Still

" Why do Singapore Democrats insist of defying the law and ending up in court instead of doing the ground work necessary to win elections?
The answer is simple: Because the PAP has absolutely no intention of allowing the opposition to win power through elections. "

These instances in a nutshell sum up the differences within the opposition. One camp seeks to win power, the other seeks to win seats under any circumstances so that it can built the party and parliamentary institution necessary to win power in the future
One preaches a vision and an ideal, the other seeks to crawl before it can fly



Locke
 

kakowi

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...

The answer is simple: Because the PAP has absolutely no intention of allowing the opposition to win power through elections.

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Which ruling party in this world, with the same power wielded by the PAP, will give a chance to the oppositions?

Will they not change the constitution, make use of the full political, civil, military, legal power to ensure their continued dominance?

But the question is not that they are unfair.

Rather it is whether what you are doing the only way to break the PAP's dominance?

Let me ask another question: What constitutes a breakthrough in ending the PAP's dominance.

And yet another: Is what you are doing effective in bringing about that breakthrough?

I submit to you SDP - that all your arguments and current actions will not bring about that breakthrough you so desire.
 

leetahbar

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must tell ah chee to win a ward first before talking big like that. always bluffing people about his "supports"...and no supports are really seen in real life.

now chee bluffs again that he has "increased supports in internet". does he knows that one shapeshifter alone like ng ejay can multiply himself into a horder of imaginary army. does he really believe that "cyber support" is there for him?

what a clown and a joker!
 

leetahbar

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Dear Still

" Why do Singapore Democrats insist of defying the law and ending up in court instead of doing the ground work necessary to win elections?
The answer is simple: Because the PAP has absolutely no intention of allowing the opposition to win power through elections. "

These instances in a nutshell sum up the differences within the opposition. One camp seeks to win power, the other seeks to win seats under any circumstances so that it can built the party and parliamentary institution necessary to win power in the future
One preaches a vision and an ideal, the other seeks to crawl before it can fly


they need money....desperate need money to pay to the LEEgime. question is why should peasants be bearing their financial woes? if they win, they brag the hell out. if they lose, peasants are suppose to pay for their whatever fines.

if they cannot take loses themselves in stride, then stop creating public nuisance and follow chee into a whole bloody mess!
 

guavatree

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old faggot BobDog doing PAP doggie aerobatics

now chee bluffs again that he has "increased supports in internet". does he knows that one shapeshifter alone like ng ejay can multiply himself into a horder of imaginary army. does he really believe that "cyber support" is there for him?

unemployed parasite old fart faggot fake monk PAP dog Bob Sim Kheng Hwee,

temple thief, swindler, fraudster, cheat, con-artist, liar, hypocrite, deceiver, all rolled into one!

for a fucking bloated retard you're good in PAP doggie aerobatics!
 

leetahbar

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Well said, SDP. I hope the donkeys out there know that SDP will contest the elections. Lets make sure that all guns aim at the fucking PAP and clear this country of yellow bellied arseholes.

chee is no mosses who parted the RED SEA. at this rate, messiah chee is leading them, SDP could be already history by then. then what next?
 

char_jig_kar

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So why does the SDP participate in elections that are neither free nor fair?

Because they are good a opportunity to raise awareness of political issues. With the advancement of cyber technology, we can use elections to educate the people on their rights and responsibilities as citizens, as well as the benefits of an open and democratically accountable government.

Dr Chee,

With all due respect. Once you step into the GE 'ring', you had already conceded that the GE is free and fair. Although it is a good opportunity to raise awareness and political issues, the price is conceding that the unfair, non free GE as free and fair.

regards,
char_jig_kar
 
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Perspective

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Well said, SDP. I hope the donkeys out there know that SDP will contest the elections. Lets make sure that all guns aim at the fucking PAP and clear this country of yellow bellied arseholes.

I discern a slight shift of position. But I look forward to seeing them contest.
 

char_jig_kar

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The position is very simple, reduce the PAP seats in parliament.

yes. but by what kind of method? by conceding the unfair GE is fair, the PAP heavily tweaked GE which cause the number of Opposition in the parliament pathetically low??

how could the Opposition concede the GE is fair, this PAP tweaked GE, this very weapon use by the PAP on them Opposition? how could the Opposition concede that the 'weapon' use on them Opposition as fair???
 
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scroobal

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yes. but by what kind of method? by conceding the unfair GE is fair, the PAP heavily tweaked GE which cause the number of Opposition in the parliament pathetically low??
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People will respect you for being true to your principles of boycotting the elections even if the outcomes assures that the PAP retains their seats. I have no objections and I am sure others here will respect you. You have made your views clear and thats important.
 

Porfirio Rubirosa

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Slightly curious as to why SDP has to repeat such explanations within a not too short period of time? I rather Dr Chee update his well written articles on holding LKY to account.
 

Perspective

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Slightly curious as to why SDP has to repeat such explanations within a not too short period of time? I rather Dr Chee update his well written articles on holding LKY to account.

This one is slightly different, I think, it elaborates more on their stand on elections.
 

Perspective

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Ok thanks. I think it was timely as their supporters seem to give the impression. And I suppose the website was gave a different stance.

Maybe. One supporter appears to be confused. Talk about voting, vote SDP and take a holiday if WP contests. Next moment in the same breath tells SDP not to contest implying PAP "play cheat".

If PAP cannot lose, why talk about voting earlier. He should take a holiday whoever comes to his ward.
 
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