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RWS: Many Only Watching, Not Gambling! Holly Shit!

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<TABLE border=0 cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width=452><TBODY><TR><TD vAlign=top width=452 colSpan=2>Published March 31, 2010
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</TD></TR><TR><TD vAlign=top width=452 colSpan=2>Show me the money!
Analysts: RWS casino operating below expectations

By ARTHUR SIM
WITH crowds at Resorts World Sentosa (RWS) stabilising, a clearer picture is emerging of how the casino industry here is shaping up. And it does not look particularly sanguine.

<TABLE class=picBoxL cellSpacing=2 width=100 align=left><TBODY><TR><TD></TD></TR><TR class=caption><TD>Place your bet: Crowd size can be deceiving as 80-90% of a casino's revenue comes from just 25% of the players, says one observer </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Citigroup gaming analysts staked out the RWS casino for three days from March 24-26, conducting 12 surveys in four different time slots - 9am, 1am, 6pm and 12pm.
Based on this, it believes that the casino is performing about 5-10 per cent below Citigroup's original estimates - which were about 20-25 per cent below consensus estimates.
However, Citigroup added: 'To be fair to RWS, we went along with the expectation that our estimates could be cut in half - and this was not the case.'
Still, it found that only 215 gaming tables were operating at peak times and 97 tables at non-peak times.
The casino is understood to have the capacity for up to 700 gaming tables.
While the low number of operational tables gives the casino a 'busy atmosphere', visit numbers, according to Citigroup's survey, are 20,000-25,000 a day. It also noted that many visitors are merely watching - not gambling.

=> Bangala effect?

The table crunch has also resulted in 'painfully' slow playing times, Citigroup said. 'On many occasions, we counted Roulette, Baccarat and Tai Sai taking well over 10 minutes to complete one game or hand. In reality, they should be able to complete one game or hand comfortably within four or five minutes.'
Still, Citigroup was 'pleasantly surprised' that table bets were respectable, with 85 per cent of Baccarat tables' minimum bets at more than $200, which is in line with Macau.
Contribution from slots was also higher than expected.
Indeed, Citigroup expects the casino's performance to peak in the first quarter before it faces competition from the Marina Bay Sands (MBS) casino which opens next month. 'We forecast no cannibalisation at RWS, but understand this is highly unlikely,' it said.
Citigroup pointed out that average revenue at Sands Macau fell 22 per cent in the six months after the Venetian Macau opened in 2007.
It also questioned whether the Singapore market has the capacity to grow to its initial estimated size of US$2.8 billion by 2011, which is below the consensus forecast of US$3.5-4 billion).
Gaming and hospitality consultant Ronald Tan has also checked out the RWS casino. And based on the size of the bets that he saw being placed, he said: 'There is no way they can make money.'
This also takes into account the fact that construction costs for RWS and MBS have come in 25-40 per cent over budget.
Mr Tan made his comments at a Singapore Press Club talk yesterday on the prospects for Singapore's casinos.
Also present was Sean Monaghan, managing director of AG Leisure Partners, who agreed that the return on investment for RWS and MBS will be lower than first expected because of 'cost overruns'.
Mr Monaghan is, however, a little more optimistic, and believes that the opening of MBS could help grow the casino market here. 'MBS will cater to a different market,' he said.
The size of crowds can be deceiving too, as 80-90 per cent of a casino's revenue comes from just 25 per cent of the players, Mr Monaghan said.
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Who wants to go to a casino full of sweaty bangalas going there for free drinks?
 
Went to check out RWS last week.

NOT impressive!

No wow factor.

Super small. Nothing compared to venetian macau.

Walk one direction - dead end
Walk another direction - also dead end.
Want to eat at restaurant - sorry fully booked for at least 1 hr
Want to eat hot dog - $5

We left after 1 hr

REally to big F

But carpark very big.
 
Have to agree with you 1000%.

According to friends who gambled there, many tables were closed even during peak hour weekends. Now Citi report says only 217 tables out of 700 tables are operating? WTF? WHY? Not enuff staff?

NOTHING GOOD COMES FROM A FUCKING FT COMPANY OR FTs. THEY ARE JUST HERE TO RAPE.

Also, heard that the ENVIRONMENT or feng shui is VERY BAD for anyone that steps in. THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT A "WOODEN SAMPAN" FILLED WITH COLORFUL STREAMERS THAT BLOCK THE MAIN ENTRANCE SO ALL GAMBLERS HAVE TO WALK AROUND THIS.


Went to check out RWS last week.

NOT impressive!

No wow factor.

Super small. Nothing compared to venetian macau.

Walk one direction - dead end
Walk another direction - also dead end.
Want to eat at restaurant - sorry fully booked for at least 1 hr
Want to eat hot dog - $5

We left after 1 hr

REally to big F

But carpark very big.

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On many occasions, we counted Roulette, Baccarat and Tai Sai taking well over 10 minutes to complete one game or hand. In reality, they should be able to complete one game or hand comfortably within four or five minutes.'

Sounds like the staff are still in their "training" phase. Its true that these games can be completed in a faster time. The trend nowadays seem to be slowly replacing the table games with electronic version of it. Even Blackjack has an electronic version. This way, everything is controlled and the time, payout can be directly adjusted by the casino.
 
Sounds like the staff are still in their "training" phase. Its true that these games can be completed in a faster time. The trend nowadays seem to be slowly replacing the table games with electronic version of it. Even Blackjack has an electronic version. This way, everything is controlled and the time, payout can be directly adjusted by the casino.


Anyone that goes to a casino to play "electronic games" deserves to lose BIG. These machines can be contolled; and even those 'showing live dealers' dealing cards can have 'live feeds' THAT CAN FOOL THE HUMAN EYES; much like a magic show (ie. mindfreak or david copperfield). So what you see is what they want you to see.

Also. RW casino is one CLASSLESS casino according to my friends who visited. They give you drinking water out of run down cooler boxes that resemble those that the SAF uses for field exercises. WTF? Singaporeans who gamble their really have no class meh.
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Yes I agree, I prefer playing at the table, rather then the E-version of it. But having a "slow" dealer is very frustrating as well. I prefer quick efficient dealer that knows what they are doing. Imagine having to wait like 10min before you won something. Thats why sometimes I play several tai sai table if the dealer are slow. :D

Anyone that goes to a casino to play "electronic games" deserves to lose BIG. These machines can be contolled; and even those 'showing live dealers' dealing cards can have 'live feeds' THAT CAN FOOL THE HUMAN EYES; much like a magic show (ie. mindfreak or david copperfield). So what you see is what they want you to see.

Also. RW casino is one CLASSLESS casino according to my friends who visited. They give you drinking water out of run down cooler boxes that resemble those that the SAF uses for field exercises. WTF? Singaporeans who gamble their really have no class meh.
:oIo:
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Who wants to go to a casino full of sweaty bangalas going there for free drinks?

Atcually who wants to go casino when own citizens have to cough up $100 extortion money. When Genting started in Msia, its the locals that prop up the sales. After that, its the Sinkies that came along & the Indonesians much later. Business 101 : Local Support is Important
 
Feels like Genting isn't it? Can't wait for Sands to open. Should have more class.


Went to check out RWS last week.

NOT impressive!

No wow factor.

Super small. Nothing compared to venetian macau.

Walk one direction - dead end
Walk another direction - also dead end.
Want to eat at restaurant - sorry fully booked for at least 1 hr
Want to eat hot dog - $5

We left after 1 hr

REally to big F

But carpark very big.
 
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It also noted that many visitors are merely watching - not gambling.
Err... pay $100 for entrance and Watch such ugly dealer, a bit crazy rite?!
 
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It also noted that many visitors are merely watching - not gambling.
Err... pay $100 for entrance and Watch such ugly dealer, a bit crazy rite?!

Perhaps non skilled foreign workers (FW) go after work to enjoy the aircon, relax and watch. Don't forget they go in free. Your maid can enter free if you allow her to go.
 
Perhaps non skilled foreign workers (FW) go after work to enjoy the aircon, relax and watch. Don't forget they go in free. Your maid can enter free if you allow her to go.

Very funny thought I am having, your maid , strike say first prize 4D today (wednesday) say 2 big x x$2,000 = $4,000 , send home $2,000, bring $2,000 on Off day April 4, ( sunday) can go casino...no levy of $100...while you poor thing employer..have to pay $100 to go in.... ha ha ha ha:D of I fogort...the maid can sponsor you...for her this is her SINGAPORE ( not yours)!!! heh heh heh
 
Have to agree with you 1000%.

According to friends who gambled there, many tables were closed even during peak hour weekends. Now Citi report says only 217 tables out of 700 tables are operating? WTF? WHY? Not enuff staff?

NOTHING GOOD COMES FROM A FUCKING FT COMPANY OR FTs. THEY ARE JUST HERE TO RAPE.

Also, heard that the ENVIRONMENT or feng shui is VERY BAD for anyone that steps in. THEY KEEP TALKING ABOUT A "WOODEN SAMPAN" FILLED WITH COLORFUL STREAMERS THAT BLOCK THE MAIN ENTRANCE SO ALL GAMBLERS HAVE TO WALK AROUND THIS.




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you talk so much, why not you go to the casino yourself to check it out. WHy leh? no balls to go har...
 
Complete one round game need 10min! That world record for the longest time.
Genting still the best is the faster in the world. Rally fast compare to many casino in the world.
Do they really have 700 table? I don't think so maybe only around 500.
How many slot machine ?
After Sands Open both IR are doom. More bangla will flooded Sands because new and nearer to Serangoon/Little India.
 
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