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Reuters: PAP repeal Anal Sex Law still not enough. Must have more liberalism for Sinkies now!

Rogue Trader

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November 30, 2022
3:58 PM GMT+8
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Even as Singapore lifts gay sex ban, LGBT families feel little has changed​

By Xinghui Kok and Chen Lin
Same-sex parents Olivia and Irene pose with daughters Zoey and Vicky during a birthday celebration in Seattle


[1/3] Same-sex parents Olivia (2nd L) and Irene and their daughters Zoey (R), 9, and Vicky, 5, pose for photos during Vicky's birthday celebrations in their home in Seattle, U.S. January 2022. Olivia and Irene Chiong/Handout via REUTERS

SINGAPORE, Nov 30 (Reuters) - Olivia Chiong and her wife, Irene Chiong, feel like the Singapore government has made clear to them and their two young children that they don't belong in the city-state.

So this week's vote by Singapore's parliament to decriminalise gay sex changed nothing about the family's painful decision to leave rather than see their daughters Zoey and Vicky denied schooling - because their legal status remains the same.

Though Indonesia-born Chiong lived in Singapore for decades as a permanent resident, married a Singaporean citizen abroad and gave birth to their first child in Singapore, her first daughter Zoey was denied permanent residency at 18 months old.

Chiong says she was given no reason for the government rejecting her daughter's residency, though it likely did not help that she had to apply as a single, foreign mother because her marriage is not officially recognised.


Without legal residency or a student pass, which may be denied, even private Singaporean schools cannot enrol a child.

A wealthy society straddling traditional and progressive values, Singapore this week decriminalised sex between men, and at the same time entrenched the definition of marriage as between a man and a woman, and of family as mother, father, and children.

"We will try and maintain a balance ... to uphold a stable society with traditional, heterosexual family values, but with space for homosexuals to live their lives and contribute to society," Home Affairs Minister K. Shanmugam told parliament.

MORE LIBERAL​

The system maintains an unfavourable status quo for children of couples such as Chiong and her wife, who have since moved to the United States.

While the government's decision to repeal the colonial-era sodomy law was cheered as a symbolic victory for the gay community, many worry LGBT families will continue to suffer under public policies that favour heterosexual marriages and families.

For Chiong, who married her Singaporean wife in the United States, the repeal is "one step forward and 10 steps back".

"What is the government trying to do? Are they trying to tell you, 'Send your child away'?" the 42-year-old said in a telephone interview from Seattle, where she now lives.

The family emigrated in 2016.

In Singapore, grassroots attitudes towards the LGBT community have become more liberal in recent years, especially among the young.

Among Singaporeans aged 18-25, about 42% accepted same-sex marriage in 2018, up from 17% five years prior, according to a survey by the Institute of Policy Studies.

SLOW CHANGES​

But laws in Singapore are slower to change.

The government maintains its policy "is and has always been to uphold heterosexual marriage and promote the formation of families within such marriages".

Prime Minister-in-waiting Lawrence Wong has said these policies will not change on his watch.

Activists say national policies on a range of issues including adoption, surrogacy, education, media and housing are such that children of LGBT parents are effectively penalised for being part of non-traditional families.

Ivan Cheong, partner and a family lawyer with Withers KhattarWong who takes LGBT families as clients, said children of anyone resident in the city-state should at least be entitled to enrolment "in private schools and at rates which are not subsidised" as many parents were willing to pay tuition fees upwards of S$20,000 ($14,530) per year.

But influential conservative groups that strongly opposed lifting the gay sex ban make it politically uncomfortable for the ruling party to further change laws.

An alliance of more than 80 Singaporean churches has decried repealing the gay sex ban as an "extremely regrettable decision" that "celebrates homosexuality".

Lawmakers this week amended the constitution so that only parliament, dominated by the ruling party, can define marriages.

Such decisions should not be led by the courts, government ministers said, citing the Indian Supreme Court's decision in August to widen the definition of familial relationships.

However, the changes do not close the door to a future parliament widening the definition of marriage.

'PUNISHING THE CHILD'​

LGBT families in Singapore now worry that further change will not come in time for them.

One single, gay Singaporean man, who declined to be identified because of the sensitivity of the issue, said he has to leave the country every three months to renew the tourist visa of his baby, born overseas through surrogacy.

While he is hopeful the child can gain citizenship in time for school, he is also working on a "plan B" to leave his home country.

A British couple, permanent residents who spent a decade in Singapore, were forced to return to Britain in mid-2020 after their two sons, born of surrogacy, were denied residency and student visas.

One of the fathers, who also declined to be identified, said he knows at least a dozen families facing the same hurdles, many with at least one Singaporean parent.

"You do that to your own citizens and that is cruel," he said. "You're punishing the child."

The government did not respond to Reuters' questions about the rights of LGBT families and their children's residency and access to education.

Chiong, now a product manager in Seattle, says her family has no plan to return to Singapore.

Zoey and Vicky, now 9 and 5, are attending elementary school.

"In the U.S., you don't even know who in the school or in the class is American or not. They educate every child. They treat every child the same," she said.

Editing by Kanupriya Kapoor and Alex Richardson

Our Standards: The Thomson Reuters Trust Principles.
 

countryman

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All these faggots are asking a bit too much! What do they expect? Change the law which goes against mankind just to suit them? If not happy, just fxxk off from here n live elsewhere...
 

laksaboy

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Reuters, AP and Bloomberg constantly push their libtard agenda. Yes, the same news wire outlets that are rabidly anti-Trump.

Also, AP is very nervous about what Elon Musk is doing to Twitter now. :wink:

 

Leongsam

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Singapore is for straight people as it is they who are keeping the species going.

The Singapore system is not designed for faggots and their contorted views of marriage. If they don't like it just fuck off.
 

bushtucker

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A household of 4 females? Betcha there's a lot of bickering and arguments going on in that house. The daughters must be wondering how come there is no Dad at home.
 

laksaboy

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A household of 4 females? Betcha there's a lot of bickering and arguments going on in that house. The daughters must be wondering how come there is no Dad at home.

Sodomites should not be raising children. It is nothing more than child abuse. Stop normalizing depravity. :rolleyes:
 

borom

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More same sex relationship/" marriage" =less locals=Pappy import more foreigners=more new shitizens=more votes for Pappy.
The only reason why they are so eager to change the law when the world is suffering from Covid and high inflation and hazzy economic outlook
 

laksaboy

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What's next if you keep pandering to the faggots... Canada and NYC provide a sneak preview. :biggrin:

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bobby

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Whenever I see companies advertising their products with same sex couples as acting as a family or partners...I will boycott that product.

People are homophobic if they voice against Ah Quas....but how do the public get repreive from feeling disgusted ?
 
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