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Rebutting Assloong's lies about Singaporeans got distinct benefits...

kojakbt

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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>22119.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>NS and benefits enjoyed by PRs top dialogue with PM Lee

By S Ramesh, Channel NewsAsia |
Posted: 01 October 2009 2346 hrs

SINGAPORE : National service for new arrivals and ideas to help integrate permanent residents and new citizens with Singaporeans were some of the issues discussed with Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong during his hour-long dialogue with women professionals on Thursday.

The dialogue was attended by representatives from 25 women's organisations.

Besides raising several issues, they also spoke of their experiences. These concerned Singapore's education system, national service for new citizens, and benefits enjoyed by citizens and permanent residents.

Mr Lee said: "I have to have a clear distinction between citizens, and non-citizens and between citizens who do NS and citizens who have not done NS. And that is what we have tried to do. That is why every few years we have a RECORD Committee, and we have to make a clearer distinction between the citizens and the PRs.

"When it comes to education fees, we have widened the difference between citizens and PRs and we will continue to widen (it). Similarly healthcare, in our hospitals, PRs pay significantly more than citizens in all classes of wards, and that also gradually we will widen.

"And then between the PRs and the foreigners, we have another clear differentiation in treatment. So I cannot make it completely flat because intrinsically it is not comparable.

"But I can redress some of this sense of 'not quite fair', and we can do more of these measures. But I cannot stop people bringing the people in, and unfortunately I cannot do away with NS."

Some mothers suggested that national service be broken up, instead of two years at a go.

Mr Lee responded: "It is better to have the two years as one block and compact it. From the SAF point of view, it is better because two years as one block, I am genuinely making full use of the soldier... train, go on course, become a specialist or officer, posted to a unit, train to operate a unit and become a proper operational which can actually deploy and fight and then ORD. If I do it three months here, six months there, I am just pretending to have a battalion."

Mr Lee stressed that the challenges faced by Singapore - be it the economic crisis or population shortfall - cannot be solved by the government alone. All Singaporeans must unite to tackle them together. - CNA/ms
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kojakbt

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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>22119.2 in reply to 22119.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>> Mr Lee said: "I have to have a clear distinction between citizens, and non-citizens and between citizens who do NS and citizens who have not done NS. And that is what we have tried to do. That is why every few years we have a RECORD Committee, and we have to make a clearer distinction between the citizens and the PRs.

Clear distinction between SG citizens and PRs? Well, I must say that yes, there is a distinction but whether it is "clear" or not, I would leave it to the bros here to decide:
[URL="http://people.delphiforums.com/kojakbt22/downloads/Benefits_of_Singaporean_vs_PR1.htm"]http://people.delphiforums.com/kojakbt22/downloads/Benefits_of_Singaporean_vs_PR1.htm[/URL]

> "When it comes to education fees, we have widened the difference between citizens and PRs and we will continue to widen (it).

From available data, let's take a look at the Govt Secondary school, SG pays $5 a month while PR pays $6 - a $1 difference. Let's see Poly. SG pays $175.00 per mth while PR pays $192.50 per mth - a $17.50 difference which is the price less than 2 movie tickets.

Wide eh?

> Similarly healthcare, in our hospitals, PRs pay significantly more than citizens in all classes of wards, and that also gradually we will widen.

Let's see.... Class C ward: SG has 80% subsidy while PR has 70% subsidy. Poly clinic consultation SG pays $9.05 while PR pays $14, a $4.95 difference.

PRs pay "significantly" more hor? Ok lah, to give PM Lee the benefit of the doubt, may be he thinks his 1 cent is as big as a bullock cart wheel.... so even if it's a 1 cent difference, he considers it very "significant"....

Mr Lee, pls don't keep dangle us with pre-election carrots by saying you will widen more or you will do this or do that... action speaks louder than words.


(note: forumers should take note that our Minister of Health, Khaw Boon Wan was an ex-PR who did not serve NS...)
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<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=wintiny noWrap align=right>22119.2 in reply to 22119.1 </TD></TR><TR><TD height=8></TD></TR><TR><TD class=msgtxt>> Mr Lee said: "I have to have a clear distinction between citizens, and non-citizens and between citizens who do NS and citizens who have not done NS. And that is what we have tried to do. That is why every few years we have a RECORD Committee, and we have to make a clearer distinction between the citizens and the PRs.

Clear distinction between SG citizens and PRs? Well, I must say that yes, there is a distinction but whether it is "clear" or not, I would leave it to the bros here to decide:
[URL="http://people.delphiforums.com/kojakbt22/downloads/Benefits_of_Singaporean_vs_PR1.htm"]http://people.delphiforums.com/kojakbt22/downloads/Benefits_of_Singaporean_vs_PR1.htm[/URL]

> "When it comes to education fees, we have widened the difference between citizens and PRs and we will continue to widen (it).

From available data, let's take a look at the Govt Secondary school, SG pays $5 a month while PR pays $6 - a $1 difference. Let's see Poly. SG pays $175.00 per mth while PR pays $192.50 per mth - a $17.50 difference which is the price less than 2 movie tickets.

Wide eh?

> Similarly healthcare, in our hospitals, PRs pay significantly more than citizens in all classes of wards, and that also gradually we will widen.

Let's see.... Class C ward: SG has 80% subsidy while PR has 70% subsidy. Poly clinic consultation SG pays $9.05 while PR pays $14, a $4.95 difference.

PRs pay "significantly" more hor? Ok lah, to give PM Lee the benefit of the doubt, may be he thinks his 1 cent is as big as a bullock cart wheel.... so even if it's a 1 cent difference, he considers it very "significant"....

Mr Lee, pls don't keep dangle us with pre-election carrots by saying you will widen more or you will do this or do that... action speaks louder than words.


(note: forumers should take note that our Minister of Health, Khaw Boon Wan was an ex-PR who did not serve NS...)
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There wasa case in the papers a while back where a PR paid less for medicine from a polyclinic than a citizen.

It is good that you collate all this information. The pappies have difficulty telling the truth because theire entire existence and system are fraught with double-talk and disinformation.

Always probe them at any opportunity and never take their answer at face value. They always have something to hide from the general population. They have no moral standing and their amoral ways will be seen the more answers they give to probing.
 

kojakbt

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There wasa case in the papers a while back where a PR paid less for medicine from a polyclinic than a citizen.

It is good that you collate all this information. The pappies have difficulty telling the truth because theire entire existence and system are fraught with double-talk and disinformation.

Always probe them at any opportunity and never take their answer at face value. They always have something to hide from the general population. They have no moral standing and their amoral ways will be seen the more answers they give to probing.

Yes, spread the news... let's all wake up the 66.6%
 

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Mr Lee stressed that the challenges faced by Singapore - be it the economic crisis or population shortfall - cannot be solved by the government alone. All Singaporeans must unite to tackle them together.

Great, lets spread their salary around.
 
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