Reality check for zelensky

[Hmv]

Zelenskyy finally had a reality check when he met Trump and Vance at the Oval Office.

Trump told Zelenskyy that he has lost the war, that he has no more cards to play and that it is best to negotiate a ceasefire under the terms of the Russians and the Americans.

Understandably, Zelenskyy feels betrayed as he had listened to NATO, which is led by America, to wage war with Russia during the presidency of Joe Biden, which resulted in more than a million young Ukrainians killed and his country destroyed. But now, the same country, albeit under Trump, is telling him to surrender.

Images of his countrymen baying for his blood must have been swirling through his head for many nights now, given that he played a critical part in the catastrophe, but it will be worse after the Trump dose of reality.

He should have listened to his countrymen, who never wanted to wage a proxy war, instead of listening to America and Europe.

But this is a lesson not only for him, but for us in Singapore too, because shortly after the war erupted, Singapore sanctioned Russia, probably at the behest, or under pressure, from the Americans and Europeans.

More at https://urlr.me/rW3XDb

 

[syed putra]

He was silly to intimidate russians. A real fool. If russians are indiscriminately killed in ukraine , you can expect retaliation.
Same situation in israel and gaza. If israel keep levelling arab villages and chasing them out of their homes, do not pray for peace as it will not come.

 

[Willamshakespear]

Zelenskyy finally had a reality check when he met Trump and Vance at the Oval Office.

Trump told Zelenskyy that he has lost the war, that he has no more cards to play and that it is best to negotiate a ceasefire under the terms of the Russians and the Americans.

Understandably, Zelenskyy feels betrayed as he had listened to NATO, which is led by America, to wage war with Russia during the presidency of Joe Biden, which resulted in more than a million young Ukrainians killed and his country destroyed. But now, the same country, albeit under Trump, is telling him to surrender.

Images of his countrymen baying for his blood must have been swirling through his head for many nights now, given that he played a critical part in the catastrophe, but it will be worse after the Trump dose of reality.

He should have listened to his countrymen, who never wanted to wage a proxy war, instead of listening to America and Europe.

But this is a lesson not only for him, but for us in Singapore too, because shortly after the war erupted, Singapore sanctioned Russia, probably at the behest, or under pressure, from the Americans and Europeans.

More at https://urlr.me/rW3XDb

The REALITY CHECK that is necessary & evidently lays with RUS.

1. RUS should had NEVER, against UN conventions that had so painstakingly created by Humankind ravaged by wars for centuries to finally come together to agree on saving Human lives. Yet PrezPutin saw fit to INVADE another sovereign State & worse - after UKR had surrendered its nukes in return for peace & protection.


2. ANY sovereign State would want to defend themselves & their way of life. PrezZelenskyy did the right thing - to mobilize his countrymen & international support to uphold the Rule of Law, which MANY Nations on Earth adhered to, including smaller nations such as us Singapore.


3. However, after the promised 3 months that RUS had claimed would bully & take over UKR, it could not even hold on to its stolen Crimea, let alone RUS territory Kursk, after 3 long years that saw the DECIMATION of even its own RUS lives along with its economy.


4. It would take billions to sustain a war. At least PrezZelenskyy had been open & transparent about the finances needed, even supported by US, EU & Humankind to defend themselves against a bully.

HOW MUCH MORE would RUS need as it has 140 million citizens mouths to feed on social expenditures - healthcare, education, infrastructures, military supplies, etc, etc, as it has 17 Borders to protect itself from????


5. Thus, it is time to end this senseless war, to save lives & economies for all so that all may progress, prosper & evolve than to continue on fighting a stalemate, that would only lead to a quagmire draining precious lives & treasury, What needs to be proven had been proven upon the tombstones of the courageous dead - myths of superiority & rule of might.
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[searcher1]

The REALITY CHECK that is necessary & evidently lays with RUS.

1. RUS should had NEVER, against UN conventions that had so painstakingly created by Humankind ravaged by wars for centuries to finally come together to agree on saving Human lives. Yet PrezPutin saw fit to INVADE another sovereign State & worse - after UKR had surrendered its nukes in return for peace & protection.


2. ANY sovereign State would want to defend themselves & their way of life. PrezZelenskyy did the right thing - to mobilize his countrymen & international support to uphold the Rule of Law, which MANY Nations on Earth adhered to, including smaller nations such as us Singapore.


3. However, after the promised 3 months that RUS had claimed would bully & take over UKR, it could not even hold on to its stolen Crimea, let alone RUS territory Kursk, after 3 long years that saw the DECIMATION of even its own RUS lives along with its economy.


4. It would take billions to sustain a war. At least PrezZelenskyy had been open & transparent about the finances needed, even supported by US, EU & Humankind to defend themselves against a bully.

HOW MUCH MORE would RUS need as it has 140 million citizens mouths to feed on social expenditures - healthcare, education, infrastructures, military supplies, etc, etc, as it has 17 Borders to protect itself from????


5. Thus, it is time to end this senseless war, to save lives & economies for all so that all may progress, prosper & evolve than to continue on fighting a stalemate, that would only lead to a quagmire draining precious lives & treasury, What needs to be proven had been proven upon the tombstones of the courageous dead - myths of superiority & rule of might.
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Your version of this conflict only starts on 24/02/2022 .... do you not care what else have happen earlier ?

The Berlin Wall collapsed on November 9, 1989 ... Russia (then part of the Soviet Union) played a significant role in the events leading up to it. The fall of the Berlin Wall marked the end of the Cold War and the division of Europe. Former Soviet and Russian officials have claimed that Western leaders, including U.S. Secretary of State James Baker and German Chancellor Helmut Kohl, gave verbal assurances during negotiations in 1990 that NATO would not expand eastward.

Despite these alleged assurances, NATO began expanding eastward in the late 1990s and early 2000s, admitting former Warsaw Pact countries and Soviet republics:

• 1999: Poland, Hungary, and the Czech Republic joined NATO.
• 2004: Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Romania, and Bulgaria joined.
• 2009: Albania and Croatia joined.
• 2017: Montenegro joined.
• 2020: North Macedonia joined.

Russia has consistently opposed NATO's eastward expansion, viewing it as a threat to its national security and a betrayal of the post-Cold War understanding.

While there were verbal assurances from some Western leaders in the early 1990s about limiting NATO's expansion, there was no formal, binding agreement to that effect. This is Russia only setback, they trusted the integrity of America. The lack of a formal agreement and differing interpretations of past assurances have contributed to ongoing tensions between NATO and Russia.

This war should have happened in 1999 when the first 3 countries joined NATO, because Russia was weak to do anything, despite their protest to United Nation
World mainstream media did not report it accurately & often portray Russia as the evil regime & they have to be bind & checked at all times.

 

[syed putra]

1. RUS should had NEVER, against UN conventions that had so painstakingly created by Humankind ravaged by wars for centuries to finally come together to agree on saving Human lives. Yet PrezPutin saw fit to INVADE another sovereign State & worse - after UKR had surrendered its nukes in return for peace & protection

Ukraine was bombarding and killing it's own russian citizens. 8 years russia waited for it to resolve but to no avail.

2. ANY sovereign State would want to defend themselves & their way of life. PrezZelenskyy did the right thing - to mobilize his countrymen & international support to uphold the Rule of Law, which MANY Nations on Earth adhered to, including smaller nations such as us Singapore

Ukraine way of life ended with CIA backed "maidan" Coup. Most countries that cia interfered with never recovered.

4. It would take billions to sustain a war. At least PrezZelenskyy had been open & transparent about the finances needed, even supported by US, EU & Humankind to defend themselves against a bully.

The whole idea was to destroy russian economy by sanctions and excessive arms spending by extending the duration of the war. Like how US suffered in Iraq, Afghanistan and Vietnam. . It did the reverse. Russian economy is booming and it now trades mostly with the east. Plus short war duration which boosted russian arms production and new war techniques.

5. Thus, it is time to end this senseless war, to save lives & economies for all so that all may progress, prosper & evolve than to continue on fighting a stalemate, that would only lead to a quagmire draining precious lives & treasury, What needs to be proven had been proven upon the tombstones of the courageous dead - myths of superiority & rule of might.

US started the war and only the US can end it. From Georgia, to Chechnya, US have been Instigating troubles along russian border and within in order to break it up.

 

[Willamshakespear]

Your version of this conflict only starts on 24/02/2022 .... do you not care what else have happen earlier ?

1. In this modern age of fake news from social media, political punters, speculators out for their own earnings without any shred of conscience or even EVIDENCES of supposed shadow orgs, even mainstream media orgs, what is really true or false? What & who to believe?


2. The only way is discern realities, which fortunately, we Humankind had been gifted with the 5 senses - see, hear, touch, smell & taste. Anything else are either mere speculations & unsubstantiated opinions.

What had happened, already happened, & no mortal has any ability to change the past. But we DO have the ability to change the future, by discarding bagages of past, to face realities of today & the consequences for tomorrow.


3. Should bagages of past be the yardstick to JUSTIFY the actions or inactions of today, then we Humanity will have to research back to the past, at the VERY BEGINNING.

i) For mainstream religion, then according to the scriptures, it was EVE that led to the downfall of Man. Thus for justification, should ALL females be exterminated?

ii) For atheists, the Rule of Might is the only law as the highest authority is Man. However, if one is small, scrawny & skinny, should he & his loved ones follow such a law & be bullied for life?

 

[Eisenhut]

Zelenskyy finally had a reality check when he met Trump and Vance at the Oval Office.

Trump told Zelenskyy that he has lost the war, that he has no more cards to play and that it is best to negotiate a ceasefire under the terms of the Russians and the Americans.

Understandably, Zelenskyy feels betrayed as he had listened to NATO, which is led by America, to wage war with Russia during the presidency of Joe Biden, which resulted in more than a million young Ukrainians killed and his country destroyed. But now, the same country, albeit under Trump, is telling him to surrender.

Images of his countrymen baying for his blood must have been swirling through his head for many nights now, given that he played a critical part in the catastrophe, but it will be worse after the Trump dose of reality.

He should have listened to his countrymen, who never wanted to wage a proxy war, instead of listening to America and Europe.

But this is a lesson not only for him, but for us in Singapore too, because shortly after the war erupted, Singapore sanctioned Russia, probably at the behest, or under pressure, from the Americans and Europeans.

More at https://urlr.me/rW3XDb

Diam la. Lesson is for Taiwan

Who the fk wants Singapore??? Singapore is a nobody

 

[Hmv]

Oh well, as Musk said we will be extinct soon enouggh

 

[searcher1]

1. In this modern age of fake news from social media, political punters, speculators out for their own earnings without any shred of conscience or even EVIDENCES of supposed shadow orgs, even mainstream media orgs, what is really true or false? What & who to believe?


2. The only way is discern realities, which fortunately, we Humankind had been gifted with the 5 senses - see, hear, touch, smell & taste. Anything else are either mere speculations & unsubstantiated opinions.

What had happened, already happened, & no mortal has any ability to change the past. But we DO have the ability to change the future, by discarding bagages of past, to face realities of today & the consequences for tomorrow.


3. Should bagages of past be the yardstick to JUSTIFY the actions or inactions of today, then we Humanity will have to research back to the past, at the VERY BEGINNING.

i) For mainstream religion, then according to the scriptures, it was EVE that led to the downfall of Man. Thus for justification, should ALL females be exterminated?

ii) For atheists, the Rule of Might is the only law as the highest authority is Man. However, if one is small, scrawny & skinny, should he & his loved ones follow such a law & be bullied for life?

NATO is still posing a military threat to Russia, will USA first dissolve NATO for world peace ? Its not possible, it is business as usual for America
Putin want the entire Europe to be the neutral-zone between USA & Russia, Will USA revolve the 14 countries NATO membership to honour their 1990 verbal agreement ? Same theory ... will USA accept Cuba to install Russia missile aiming United States ?

Your version is not acceptable to any major powers, who will first discard baggage of the past & get over for a better tomorrow ?
USA is not willingly to do so, Russia cannot don't do anything to secure their national security ... ultimately it will be fight, just when will it happen ?
Trump might be able to delay & have peace for another 4 years ... what if Democrats become Govt again, again poking the bear ?

No need to trace all the way back to the Adam & Eve beginning, just recent 100 years will do.
Try telling China to let go their past hatred for Japan, not possible correct ? Japan better be smart, don't cross China's red line
China will not give mercy to Japan this time if they go to war again ... the entire Chinese population will demand hostile retaliation

 

[syed putra]

Trump might be able to delay & have peace for another 4 years ... what if Democrats become Govt again, again poking the bear ?

The democrats are totally annihilated. Not a whimper to trump's various decree. Silenced. Democratic party needs to be reformed first before anyone would want them back.

 

[Loofydralb]

The REALITY CHECK that is necessary & evidently lays with RUS.

1. RUS should had NEVER, against UN conventions that had so painstakingly created by Humankind ravaged by wars for centuries to finally come together to agree on saving Human lives. Yet PrezPutin saw fit to INVADE another sovereign State & worse - after UKR had surrendered its nukes in return for peace & protection.


2. ANY sovereign State would want to defend themselves & their way of life. PrezZelenskyy did the right thing - to mobilize his countrymen & international support to uphold the Rule of Law, which MANY Nations on Earth adhered to, including smaller nations such as us Singapore.


3. However, after the promised 3 months that RUS had claimed would bully & take over UKR, it could not even hold on to its stolen Crimea, let alone RUS territory Kursk, after 3 long years that saw the DECIMATION of even its own RUS lives along with its economy.


4. It would take billions to sustain a war. At least PrezZelenskyy had been open & transparent about the finances needed, even supported by US, EU & Humankind to defend themselves against a bully.

HOW MUCH MORE would RUS need as it has 140 million citizens mouths to feed on social expenditures - healthcare, education, infrastructures, military supplies, etc, etc, as it has 17 Borders to protect itself from????


5. Thus, it is time to end this senseless war, to save lives & economies for all so that all may progress, prosper & evolve than to continue on fighting a stalemate, that would only lead to a quagmire draining precious lives & treasury, What needs to be proven had been proven upon the tombstones of the courageous dead - myths of superiority & rule of might.
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Stop being a hypocrite. Israel has for decades contravened international law and nothing was done. That's the root cause of the system breaking down.

 

[Willamshakespear]

NATO is still posing a military threat to Russia, will USA first dissolve NATO for world peace ? Its not possible, it is business as usual for America
Putin want the entire Europe to be the neutral-zone between USA & Russia, Will USA revolve the 14 countries NATO membership to honour their 1990 verbal agreement ? Same theory ... will USA accept Cuba to install Russia missile aiming United States ?

Your version is not acceptable to any major powers, who will first discard baggage of the past & get over for a better tomorrow ?
USA is not willingly to do so, Russia cannot don't do anything to secure their national security ... ultimately it will be fight, just when will it happen ?
Trump might be able to delay & have peace for another 4 years ... what if Democrats become Govt again, again poking the bear ?

No need to trace all the way back to the Adam & Eve beginning, just recent 100 years will do.
Try telling China to let go their past hatred for Japan, not possible correct ? Japan better be smart, don't cross China's red line
China will not give mercy to Japan this time if they go to war again ... the entire Chinese population will demand hostile retaliation

I respect your views as each Earthborn Human has right to do so freely, regardless right or wrong to express it & it will be up to OTHERS to discern Realities.

Only morons will do the same failed experiments, such as the intelligent Mr Syed Putra but bagage filled angst would do, & expect different results, proven time & time again.

The only CONSTANT in life is change. Progress/evolution is a juggernaut that will CRUSH anyone whom refuses to accept changes, proven too time & time again......

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