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大国终于开窍了!或送出中国垂涎技术 直接改变世界格局

2019-01-04 17:50 俄罗斯 /中国 /航母

前苏联曾在工业和科技发展上给予中国很大帮助,苏联解体后,继承前苏联大部“遗产”的俄罗斯依旧曾是中国军事技术的一个主要来源。然而,中国的国力近年来正在稳步上升,俄罗斯经济工业却全面衰退,此时,双方的关系也逐渐发生交换。

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▲尽管俄海军多次计划建造巨型航母,但现实的苦涩依旧总会提醒他们,那只是个模型

人们常说百年海军。这是因为海军的耗资大、见效慢,俄罗斯海军水面力量的发展几乎可以用惨不忍睹来形容,特别是独苗航母库兹涅佐夫号长期忍受着动力系统的顽疾,总算在结束中东任务后回港大修。然而,该舰却在去年因浮船坞沉没惨遭横祸,后又爆出内鬼盗窃丑闻,使该舰的前途更加灰暗。更可悲的是,放眼放去,俄罗斯国内已无合适的船厂可以修复库兹涅佐夫号。

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▲2016年硬着头皮赶往叙利亚执行任务的库兹涅佐夫号

早在该舰出事后不久,就有媒体猜测,俄罗斯只能求助于中国,无论从技术条件还是国家关系上看,这是唯一可靠的外援。2018年7月,中国制造的4万吨浮船坞就交付给符拉迪沃斯托克的红星造船厂,该浮船坞可以托举300米以上长度的大型船舶。中国提供给红星造船厂的设备还包括1台1200吨级龙门吊(首艘国产航母建造时的龙门吊规格与之相当)、2台320吨级的龙门吊,以及4台100吨级的鹤吊。此外,苏州大方特种车辆有限公司还提供了2辆650吨级、2辆320吨级,以及1辆150吨级的平台载重车等。此外,中国还为该厂提供了全套人员技术培训和现代化管理模式指导,规模远超当年援助巴基斯坦卡拉奇造船厂,堪称中国船舶行业迄今最大的外援项目。

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▲曾是中国故地的海参崴,现在迎来了前所未有的中国设备技术的援助,极大提升了该厂的水平

但对现在的俄海军来说,缓解燃眉之急最好的方式,还是要将库兹涅佐夫号送往中国进行维修升级,从中国主要的造船厂来看,江南造船厂的产量相对饱和,北方的大连造船厂内,虽然正在承建多艘055和052D型驱逐舰,但依旧有能力容纳吨位近似于辽宁号的库兹涅佐夫号,特别是大连造船厂此前积累的建造和维修航母经验,完成此项任务并无太大问题。相比于自己打捞已有老化且损坏明显的浮船坞、或干脆费时费力重建大型浮船坞,这显然是最佳捷径。

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▲大连船厂已具备丰富的航母维修和建造经验,俄方应抓住该厂建造后续航母之前的空档期,否则机会很难再来。

有人说,俄军事力量中最具威慑力的还是导弹核武器,航母无所谓。若真如此,2016年俄海军为何会动用水面力量中包括航母在内的最后家底,硬着头皮去地中海呢?由此可见,航母对于一个大国来说,是必不可少的。俄罗斯放下面子,中国显然也是要考虑援助条件的,现阶段俄罗斯的经济问题举世皆知,货币交易显然不行。如果是以石油和天然气等自然资源,那显然又会让俄罗斯认为承认自己的落后,不得不用资源换技术,变相承认自己沦为欠发达国家。对于高傲的俄罗斯人来说,求助于昔日“小兄弟”本就是伤面子的,用资源交换军事援助,则彻底无法忍受。

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▲2018年底拍摄的大连造船厂,多艘导弹驱逐舰已火热开工

不久前,美国“下一个大未来”网站报道称,俄方已开始求助中国协助其进行航母维修,俄方也会将自身领先的某些技术作为交换手段。客观来看,该网站评价相对贴切,毕竟俄方在航发技术等方面底蕴深厚,总体水平在中国之上,两国共同面对美国及其盟友的战略挑战,技术上互通有无是必须的。中国空军虽逐步跨入“20时代”,但歼20、运20的发动机依旧需要加强,如果俄航母真的来华维修,俄方很可能将会在发动机研发上主动对中国“示好”,不但可能出示产品30系列发动机技术,更可能邀请中国在共同研发强化本国四代机。

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俄方对苏57的不足必然也心知肚明,如果借此邀请中国共同在技术上对该机进行完善,其成果也必然利于歼20水平的提高

库兹涅佐夫号如果真的来华维修,必将开启军事上的双赢之门。此事一旦落成,中国空军倒还真欠了海军一大人情呢!返回搜狐,查看更多

The big country is finally open! Or send out Chinese coveted technology to directly change the world
2019-01-04 17:50
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The former Soviet Union had greatly helped China in the development of industry and science and technology. After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Russia, which inherited the "heritage" of the former Soviet Union, was still a major source of Chinese military technology. However, China's national strength has been steadily rising in recent years, and Russia's economic industry has declined in an all-round way. At this time, the relationship between the two sides has gradually changed.

▲Although the Russian Navy has repeatedly planned to build a giant aircraft carrier, the actual bitterness will always remind them that it is just a model.

People often say the century-old navy. This is because the navy is costly and slow, and the development of the Russian navy's surface power can be described as horrible. In particular, the single seedling carrier Kuznetsov has long endured the ills of the power system and finally returned to Hong Kong after completing the Middle East mission. Overhaul. However, the ship was devastated by the sinking of the floating dock last year, and then the inside of the ghost theft scandal, making the ship's future more gray. What is even more tragic is that there is no suitable shipyard in Russia to repair the Kuznetsov.

▲ Kuznetsov, who rushed to Syria to perform his duties in 2016

Soon after the accident, there was media speculation that Russia can only resort to China. This is the only reliable foreign aid in terms of technical conditions and state relations. In July 2018, a 40,000-ton floating dock built in China was delivered to Vladivostok's Red Star Shipyard, which can lift large ships over 300 meters in length. The equipment provided by China to the Red Star Shipyard also includes a 1200-ton gantry crane (the same size as the gantry crane when the first domestic aircraft carrier was built), two 320-ton gantry cranes, and four 100-ton crane cranes. In addition, Suzhou Dafang Special Vehicle Co., Ltd. also provided two 650-ton class, two 320-ton class, and one 150-ton platform truck. In addition, China has provided a full set of personnel technical training and modern management mode guidance for the plant, which is far superior to the assistance of Pakistan Karachi Shipyard. It is the largest foreign aid project in China's shipbuilding industry to date.

▲The sea cucumber that used to be the hometown of China has now ushered in unprecedented assistance in Chinese equipment technology, greatly improving the level of the plant.

But for the current Russian Navy, the best way to alleviate the urgent need is to send the Kuznetsov to China for maintenance and upgrade. From the perspective of China's major shipyards, the output of Jiangnan Shipyard is relatively saturated. In the Dalian Shipyard, although many 055 and 052D destroyers are being built, they still have the capacity to accommodate the Kuznetsov, which is similar to the Liaoning Province, especially the experience of construction and maintenance of aircraft carriers accumulated by Dalian Shipyard. There is not much problem with this task. This is clearly the best shortcut compared to the salvage of a floating dock with aging and damage, or the time and effort to rebuild a large floating dock.

▲ Dalian Shipyard has rich experience in aircraft carrier maintenance and construction. The Russian side should seize the gap period before the construction of the aircraft carrier, otherwise the opportunity will be difficult to come back.

Some people say that the most deterrent of the Russian military power is missile nuclear weapons, and the aircraft carrier does not matter. If so, why did the Russian Navy in 2016 use the last home of the water-powered force, including the aircraft carrier, to go to the Mediterranean with a hard scalp? It can be seen that the aircraft carrier is indispensable for a big country. Russia puts the following, and China obviously has to consider the conditions for aid. At this stage, Russia’s economic problems are well known, and currency trading is obviously not feasible. If it is natural resources such as oil and natural gas, it will obviously make Russia believe that it is backward. It has to use resources for technology and disguise itself as an underdeveloped country. For the proud Russians, turning to the "little brothers" in the past is a hurtful face. The exchange of military aid with resources is completely intolerable.

▲Dalian Shipyard, which was shot at the end of 2018, many missile destroyers have started hot

Not long ago, the US "Next Big Future" website reported that Russia has begun to turn to China to assist its aircraft carrier maintenance, and Russia will also use some of its leading technologies as a means of exchange. Objectively speaking, the evaluation of the website is relatively appropriate. After all, Russia has a profound knowledge of aviation technology and its overall level is above China. The two countries face the strategic challenges of the United States and its allies. It is necessary to have technical intercommunication. . Although the Chinese Air Force has gradually entered the "20 era", the engines of the 20th and 20th engines still need to be strengthened. If the Russian aircraft carrier really comes to China for maintenance, the Russian side is likely to take the initiative to show China's good engine development. Not only may the product 30 series engine technology be presented, but it is more likely to invite China to jointly develop and strengthen the fourth generation of the country.

The Russian side is also aware of the shortcomings of the Su 57. If we invite China to jointly improve the machine technically, the results will certainly benefit the improvement of the 歼20 level.

If the Kuznetsov is really coming to China for repairs, it will surely open a military win-win. Once the matter was completed, the Chinese Air Force really owed a big deal to the Navy! Go back to Sohu and see more
 
In exchange of upgrading Putin's carrier Admiral Kuznetsov, Product 30 jet engine and possibly the SU-57 jet itself are going to Xijinping. The advantage of this deal is ABNN Ah Neh Modi will Lao Sai and now beg to buy Su-57 at sky-high prices. This profit from Prata Modi will fund the Carrier Upgrade & the Chinese will earn SU-57 & Product 30 engine - upgrading Putin's carrier Admiral Kuznetsov is a Piece Of Cake Job for Xi, already done 15 years ago on the Soviet twin of Admiral Kuznetsov called Varyag into today's Liaoning carrier. Chinese engineers today can turn Putin's carrier to be even more advanced than Dotard's carrier. Powered by nuke engine if necessary.

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俄还在打如意算盘?想卖出一百架五代机,专家:中国不会做冤大头

2019-01-04 20:25 导弹 /俄罗斯 /中国

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近日,据媒体报道,此前俄罗斯媒体曾预测,俄方研制的苏57战机性能先进,绝对能够吸引中国,所以俄罗斯断定中国将要买100架苏57战机。但就在俄罗斯还在打如意算盘的时候,没想到中国现在已经后来居上了,中国的歼20丝毫不比苏57差,而且这款战机在多个方面已经实现赶超。专家也表示,看来俄媒预测落空了,还想对中国卖出一百架五代机,这是绝对不可能的,因为苏57完全没有吸引中国的地方,中国也不会像印度一样做冤大头。

作为俄罗斯应对F-22和F-35等世界先进五代机的战机,苏-57可谓是饱含着俄国军工的厚望而诞生的,它是在苏-27家族机体的基础上,添加隐身设计,换装了更为先进的导弹与航电系统制造而成。俄国工程师在设计时就考虑到对抗美国F22等隐形战机的需要,因此苏-57不但拥有隐身性,还装备了先进的大功率相控列阵雷达与高载弹量的弹仓,使其能够在地面雷达的配合下,寻觅并猎杀敌方的隐形战机。

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图为苏57

苏-57是一款由俄罗斯研发的双发重型五代机,但可惜的是,苏-57在隐身性能上的表现并不良好,这也是其在国际上饱受诟病的一个“黑点”。俄国落后的隐形涂料与工艺只能让苏-57在空中时正面雷达RCS面积减少,而其下部和后部的隐身性能就不能够保证了。

俄国对于苏-57的一大卖点就是其弹药挂载能力与对地攻击能力,苏-57最大可以携带近十吨的弹药,这是一个相当恐怖的数字,也就是说飞机容积的三分之一是用来携带武器的,甚至如果不需要隐身性能的话还可以使用外挂点来挂载更多的导弹。另外,苏-57还完全支持中距弹和超远距弹的发射和制导。

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图为外挂点挂载弹药的苏57

在雷达方面,苏-57装备了拥有五套扫描阵列的全新雷达,苏-57使用了主动和被动光学雷达定位系统相当于穿上了一层隐形的保护罩。苏-57还有一项独门绝技,那就是可以使用无线电侦察和对抗系统在不打开雷达的情况下来隐藏自己,同时干扰对方的导弹。俄罗斯及苏联飞机的座舱显示面板一直是一个弱项,但是在苏-57上得到了极大的改善,它采用了几块全彩液晶大屏幕,而不是以前战机一样的机械或电子式仪表。

不过苏-57也是存在缺点的,最大的问题就是为了保证武器载舱的完成完整性,在机体的横梁上开了洞,这将极大地降低机体的牢固性。此外,苏-57的产量一直成谜,就连俄罗斯自己也不知道自己能够生产多少。而对比歼-20已经量产化开始逐步换装中国空军来说,苏-57是真的没有必要买,只能说俄罗斯此次打错了如意算盘。返回搜狐,查看更多


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Is Russia still playing the wishful thinking? Want to sell a hundred five-generation machines, experts: China will not do big heads
2019-01-04 20:25
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The picture shows Su 57

Recently, according to media reports, the Russian media had predicted that the Su-57 fighter developed by the Russian side had advanced performance and could definitely attract China, so Russia concluded that China would buy 100 Su-57 fighters. But when Russia was still playing the wishful thinking, I did not expect that China has now come to the fore. China’s 歼20 is no worse than the Su57, and this fighter has already surpassed in many aspects. Experts also said that it seems that the Russian media forecast has failed, and it is absolutely impossible to sell a hundred five-generation aircraft to China. Because the Soviet Union 57 has no place to attract China, China will not do the same as India. .

As Russia's response to the world's advanced five-generation aircraft such as the F-22 and F-35, the Su-57 was born with the high hopes of the Russian military. It is based on the Su-27 family's body, adding stealth design and changing. It is made up of more advanced missiles and avionics systems. Russian engineers were designed to take into account the need for stealth fighters such as the US F22. Therefore, the Su-57 not only possesses stealth, but also is equipped with advanced high-power phased array radar and high-load magazines, enabling it to With the cooperation of ground radar, search for and kill enemy stealth fighters.

The picture shows Su 57

Su-57 is a dual-issue heavy-duty fifth-generation machine developed by Russia, but unfortunately, Su-57's performance in stealth performance is not good, which is also a "black spot" that has been criticized internationally. Russia's backward invisible paints and processes can only reduce the area of the front radar RCS when the Su-57 is in the air, and the stealth performance of the lower and rear parts is not guaranteed.

Russia's big selling point for the Su-57 is its ammunition loading ability and ground attack capability. The Su-57 can carry nearly ten tons of ammunition. This is a rather horrible number, which means that the aircraft volume is three-thirds. One is to carry weapons, and even if you don't need stealth performance, you can use a plug-in point to mount more missiles. In addition, Su-57 also fully supports the launch and guidance of medium-range and super-long-range missiles.

The picture shows the su 57 carrying the ammunition at the external point.

In terms of radar, the Su-57 is equipped with a new radar with five scanning arrays. The Su-57 uses an active and passive optical radar positioning system equivalent to wearing an invisible protective cover. The Su-57 also has a unique skill, that is, the radio reconnaissance and confrontation system can be used to hide itself without opening the radar, while interfering with the other's missiles. The cockpit display panels of Russian and Soviet aircraft have always been a weakness, but they have been greatly improved on the Su-57, which uses several full-color LCD large screens instead of mechanical or electronic instruments like the previous fighters.

However, the Su-57 also has shortcomings. The biggest problem is that in order to ensure the integrity of the weapon carrier, a hole is made in the beam of the body, which will greatly reduce the firmness of the body. In addition, the production of Su-57 has been a mystery, and even Russia itself does not know how much it can produce. Compared with the 歼-20, the mass production has begun to gradually change the Chinese Air Force. The Su-57 is really not necessary to buy. It can only be said that Russia has made a wrong decision. Go back to Sohu and see more
 
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