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Purpose Of Government

jw5

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In your opinion, what is the ultimate purpose of government?
Please try not to be vague, or abstract, or sound grand, or bombastic, or quote what the pappies would say, or be too idealistic.
Some would say "Manage the country and its resources", or "Improve the economic conditions of the country", or "Make the country as rich as possible" etc.
But shouldn't it be to "Ensure that every single citizen born on the shores is able to lead a decent life"?
Your comments or opinions please.
 

makapaaa

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To perpetuate the power of 1 Familee by engaging in economic genocide against the citizens? *chey*
 

Devil Within

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The purpose of Government is clearly explained in this video (about 9min into the video). It's about 28mins long, but you will understand what freedom really means and what role government play in terms of freedom of the people. The more role the government has, the less freedom people will have.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6732659166933078950

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miosux

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In your opinion, what is the ultimate purpose of government?
Please try not to be vague, or abstract, or sound grand, or bombastic, or quote what the pappies would say, or be too idealistic.
Some would say "Manage the country and its resources", or "Improve the economic conditions of the country", or "Make the country as rich as possible" etc.
But shouldn't it be to "Ensure that every single citizen born on the shores is able to lead a decent life"?
Your comments or opinions please.

you should first define "decent life" - what's decent to me might be indecent to you :wink:

the role of government in a capitalist state is to:
1. regulate industry
2. create jobs by enabling the free markets
3. redistribute wealth tru out society via taxes and social programs
4. ensure public goods and services are accessible by those who need it

i would argue that govs should play a lesser role in the daily life of the citizens - pple should be given the chance to succeed or fail as they please.

EDIT: "in defense of anarchism" http://www.ditext.com/wolff/anarchy.html (worth your 1 hour to digest this short essay)

besides unfortunate circumstances (like being born handicapped or being orphaned when young etc) every citizen in s'pore already has the ability to make a decent life for himself here.

i think bhutan is probably the only country in the world where the gov's concern is the pple's happiness rather than material well being.
 

jw5

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you should first define "decent life" - what's decent to me might be indecent to you :wink:

the role of government in a capitalist state is to:
1. regulate industry
2. create jobs by enabling the free markets
3. redistribute wealth tru out society via taxes and social programs
4. ensure public goods and services are accessible by those who need it

i would argue that govs should play a lesser role in the daily life of the citizens - pple should be given the chance to succeed or fail as they please.

EDIT: "in defense of anarchism" http://www.ditext.com/wolff/anarchy.html (worth your 1 hour to digest this short essay)

besides unfortunate circumstances (like being born handicapped or being orphaned when young etc) every citizen in s'pore already has the ability to make a decent life for himself here.

i think bhutan is probably the only country in the world where the gov's concern is the pple's happiness rather than material well being.
Ok, I mean 3 meals a day, accomodation (not necesarily own property but roof over the head), a means of livelihood if the person is able, basic necessities of life, until a person is dead.
Obviously no holidays, sports cars, expensive watches and plasma tvs.
I understand the points you raised, but these are not the "ultimate purposes" right?
They are all things the government should do to ensure that ultimately, every citizen born on the shores can have and will continue to have a decent life.
 

miosux

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i think the gov should do less, see my edit referring to anarchism. as an analogy, gov should just 'build the house' while we decide what to do with the house.

i don't think there is a universal standard for what a gov should do for its people, but rather, any gov's role (ie the social contract) should be defined BY the Electorate/ the people.

so in s'pore, gov's old role was to provide $ for people in exchange for compliance. don't think this social contract will remain for another generation.
 

funglung

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sg-pm.jpg


To perpetuate the power of 1 Familee by engaging in economic genocide against the citizens? *chey*





GO ALL OUT TO KICK ALL THOSE BASTARDS OUT

ALL OF THEM

DO NOT WAIT UNTIL ELECTION TIME
THE TIME TO ACT IS NOW!

TALK TO YOUR FRIENDS AND YOUR RELATIVES.

SUPPORT OPPOSITION PARTIES WITH YOUR TIME AND MONEY AND STAND BY THEM AND WITH THEM.

THEY SPEAK FOR YOU AND TRY TO SPEAK FOR YOU.

NOT LKY AND HIS BASTARDS IN WHITE WHO ONLY WANT YOUR MONEY AND TO FUCK YOU.


IF NOT FOR YOURSELF, THEN FOR THE FUTURE OF YOUR CHILDREN

THERE WILL NOT BE AN OBAMA AS PRESIDENT OF USA IF THE CIVIL RIGHTS MOVEMENT THERE WAS INTIMIDATED BY BEATINGS AND LYNCHINGS IN THE PAST.


THE TOBBLING OF LKY WILL NOT BE EASY, AND CAN BE BLOODY AS WELL.
THEY WILL NOT GIVE UP THE BILLIONS THAT THEY SUCKED FROM YOU AND CAN CONTINUE TO SCREW FROM YOU NOW AND IN FUTURE.


ONLY YOU HAVE THE POWER TO SAY 'NO MORE OF THAT' AND THROW EVERYONE OF THOSE BASTARDS OUT






Sinkies must organise themselves

Show that they got balls and can stand up to LKY intimidation.

Big money at stake.

Already 400++ billions got sucked and bled by LKY into his Temasick and GIC

EVEN IF NO ELECTIONS, SINKIES MUST SPEAK WITH ALL THEIR FRIENDS AND ALL THEY KNOW

STAND UP TO THAT BASTARD LKY AND PAP BLOODSUCKERS

STAND WITH ALL THOSE THAT FIGHT BASTARD LKY

OR STAND UP YOURSELF IN YOUR CONSTITUENCY

DONT BE BULLIED BY THAT FUCKING COWARD LKY USING HIS CORRUPT KANGAROO COURTS AND ALL THAT HE CAN, AND WILL THROW AT YOU
 

banova888

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In your opinion, what is the ultimate purpose of government?
Please try not to be vague, or abstract, or sound grand, or bombastic, or quote what the pappies would say, or be too idealistic.
Some would say "Manage the country and its resources", or "Improve the economic conditions of the country", or "Make the country as rich as possible" etc.
But shouldn't it be to "Ensure that every single citizen born on the shores is able to lead a decent life"?
Your comments or opinions please.

This is explained quite well, in this article.
 
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