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Proof that people have been getting what they want by threatening to complain about drs to college

nayr69sg

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You see lah. Many have threaten to complain to college. Dr scared. Give in. Who is the culprit that made drs so scared? It's fhe College themselves lah.

Now then try to wayang. Can suka suka dismiss patients meh? Talk nonsense.

https://cpsa.ca/news/sept-28-a-letter-to-albertans-from-cpsa-council/

Sept. 28: A letter to Albertans from CPSA Council​

Albertans | Posted September 28, 2021




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The College of Physicians and Surgeons of Alberta (CPSA) recognizes we’ve hit a critical point in the COVID-19 pandemic and is very concerned about how much longer Alberta’s healthcare professionals can continue to provide quality patient care without support from all Albertans. Many Albertans have already experienced limited access to important care, and we are seeing the highest numbers of patients admitted to Alberta hospitals than we have seen since the beginning of the pandemic. The pressure on our ICUs is critical and we simply can’t ignore that the vast majority of these patients are unvaccinated.
Physicians, nurses, healthcare teams and support staff are working incredibly hard to address the increased demands. These professionals, who have committed their lives to supporting patients, are burning out and personally suffering mentally, emotionally and physically as a result of the work they do and the current environment we’re in. We don’t have an endless supply of people to continue the battle against COVID-19, and the long-term repercussions on our healthcare system are equally serious.
We also recognize many Albertans are in the same boat – exhausted and frustrated from continuing to do their part in protecting themselves and others throughout the pandemic. To these people, CPSA’s Council and leadership team thank you immensely for your efforts. We recognize that not all those who are struggling with their decision to be vaccinated are “anti-vaxxers”. Our guidance to the profession has been to not pass judgement and help you better understand the safety and value of vaccines. We can’t however ignore the small number of Albertans who are aggressively spreading misinformation, looking for inappropriate exemptions and putting others at risk. The medical profession needs Albertans to get vaccinated. In order to get through this healthcare crisis, we strongly urge Albertans to abide by the following:
  • Work with your healthcare provider to review up-to-date evidence and credible sources, such as Alberta Health, Alberta Health Services and Health Canada.
  • Don’t expect a COVID-19 vaccine exemption. As we recently shared with the medical profession, there are almost no absolute medical restrictions to vaccinations. Therefore, there should be very few exemptions issued by physicians.
  • Be respectful to your healthcare provider and their support staff. We encourage you to discuss your concerns with your physician, but there is no circumstance where abusive, threatening or harassing behaviour is acceptable. In fact, in a community practice, a physician has every right to immediately discharge a patient from their care if that patient or their family is making a healthcare professional, or any staff member, feel unsafe.
  • If a physician feels you do not qualify for a vaccine or mask exemption for medical reasons, threatening to report them to CPSA is not appropriate. CPSA can and will dismiss such vexatious complaints.
This is a critical time in Alberta’s history and we all need to come together to support each other, our healthcare professionals and play a part in getting us through the pandemic.
Sincerely, CPSA Council:
 

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Terminating The Physician-Patient Relationship In Office-Based Settings​

  1. regulated member who terminates a relationship with a patient must have reasonable grounds for discharging the patient from his or her medical practice and document those reasons in the patient’s record.
  2. A regulated member must notdischarge a patient:
    1. based on a prohibited ground of discrimination including age, gender, marital status, medical condition, national or ethnic origin, physical or mental disability, political affiliation, race, religion, sexual orientation, or socioeconomic status;
    2. because a patient makes poor lifestyle choices (such as smoking);
    3. because a patient fails to keep appointments or pay outstanding fees unless advance notice has been given to the patient;
    4. because the patient refuses to follow medical advice unless the patient is repeatedly non-adherent despite reasonable attempts by the physician to address the non-adherence; or
    5. because the regulated member relocated his/her practice to a new location/setting to which current patients could be reasonably expected to follow.
  3. Notwithstanding clause 2(e), a regulated member mayterminate patient relationships if:
    1. the regulated member is changing scope of practice wherein current patients would no longer fit within the new scope; or
    2. a relocation occurs more than twelve (12) months after closing an earlier practice.
  4. When unilaterally terminating a relationship with a patient, a regulated member must:
    1. give advance written notice of intention to terminate care and provide a timeline that is commensurate with the continuing care needs of the patient;
    2. advise the patient of the reasons for termination of the physician-patient relationship unless disclosure of the reasons could be expected to:
      1. result in immediate and grave harm to the patient’s mental or physical health or safety;
      2. threaten the mental health and physical health or safety of another individual; or
      3. pose a threat to public safety.
    3. ensure continuity of follow-up care for outstanding investigations and serious medical conditions prior to the termination date or arrange transfer of care to another regulated member;
    4. provide or arrange for care until the termination of care; and
    5. establish a process for transfer of the patient’s medical information in response to future requests by the patient or an authorized third party.
  5. Notwithstanding clause (4), a regulated member mayimmediately discharge a patient if:
    1. the patient poses a safety risk to office staff, other patients or the regulated member;
    2. the patient is abusive to the regulated member, staff or other patients;
    3. the patient fails to respect professional boundaries; or
    4. the regulated member is leaving medical practice because of personal illness or other urgent circumstances
all this while it has been very hard to prove that a patient is abusive and poses a danger to staff etc. No cameras. My word. Their word.

Hence Drs have always been very reluctant to dismiss patients. We put up with it. Hope patient goes somewhere else themselves.

It is a culture of fear.
 

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All complaints are investigated because if the CPSA dismisses it then the complainant can ask for a review. Hence the CPSA usually investigates all complaints.

Sigh.

The point is this covid has shown up many of the weaknesses and flaws with the medical profession.

1. Powerless drs in fear of patients eager to please and do what patients want. Why? Patient autonomy.

2. Divide between drs who follow the guidelines and drs who dont. Top down approach generally no place for dissenting opinions.

3. Weak colleges. Easy when going after individual drs for disciplinary action. Not so brave when it is a whole big group of them.

4. Medicine is an art. Not just a science. You cannot create laws and rules for art.

5. Political interference in the profession. Refer to 1 on powerless drs.
 

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All complaints are investigated because if the CPSA dismisses it then the complainant can ask for a review. Hence the CPSA usually investigates all complaints.

Sigh.

The point is this covid has shown up many of the weaknesses and flaws with the medical profession.

1. Powerless drs in fear of patients eager to please and do what patients want. Why? Patient autonomy.

2. Divide between drs who follow the guidelines and drs who dont. Top down approach generally no place for dissenting opinions.

3. Weak colleges. Easy when going after individual drs for disciplinary action. Not so brave when it is a whole big group of them.

4. Medicine is an art. Not just a science. You cannot create laws and rules for art.

5. Political interference in the profession. Refer to 1 on powerless drs.
It takes two hands to clap

Doctor and patient relationship is very delicate especially when a sick person is desperate for help and mistook Doctor for God.
The question is what makes a patient dissatisfied and vice versa

I will give you an example from what I was told

This guy went to a public hospital for consultation for the same nagging problems for years. According to him his usual Dr was on leave and someone who have never seen him took over.
He entered the room greeted the Dr with a smile but was not offered to sit. He sat down without asking his permission. Next, the Dr asked what was he there for. He said he has been having his back pain for many years and have many tests and MRI performed
"Is it very painful?" the doctor asked. Yes he said.
The next question nearly burst his vein in the brain, "How long have you been like this?"
He was very annoyed but controlled himself and told the Dr gently " Please refer to my history sheets in your computer"
Noting the changed in colour on the patient's face he quickly scanned through the records and began to understand his case better. Potential confrontation and flare up adverted.

2 scenarios and it's anybody's guess

1. If the patient lost his cool in the initial stage what will happen
2. If the Dr hasn't got the ability to read between the lines what's next

You see altercation and conflicts are usually caused by dissatisfactions and misunderstandings. There is no definite party to blame as had happened in many other relationships, husband & wife, among siblings and participants here.

Guideline, inference, opinion, and political interference is a game people play and have added more headaches than cures in the medical profession

Take it easy bro
 

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It takes two hands to clap

Doctor and patient relationship is very delicate especially when a sick person is desperate for help and mistook Doctor for God.
The question is what makes a patient dissatisfied and vice versa

I will give you an example from what I was told

This guy went to a public hospital for consultation for the same nagging problems for years. According to him his usual Dr was on leave and someone who have never seen him took over.
He entered the room greeted the Dr with a smile but was not offered to sit. He sat down without asking his permission. Next, the Dr asked what was he there for. He said he has been having his back pain for many years and have many tests and MRI performed
"Is it very painful?" the doctor asked. Yes he said.
The next question nearly burst his vein in the brain, "How long have you been like this?"
He was very annoyed but controlled himself and told the Dr gently " Please refer to my history sheets in your computer"
Noting the changed in colour on the patient's face he quickly scanned through the records and began to understand his case better. Potential confrontation and flare up adverted.

2 scenarios and it's anybody's guess

1. If the patient lost his cool in the initial stage what will happen
2. If the Dr hasn't got the ability to read between the lines what's next

You see altercation and conflicts are usually caused by dissatisfactions and misunderstandings. There is no definite party to blame as had happened in many other relationships, husband & wife, among siblings and participants here.

Guideline, inference, opinion, and political interference is a game people play and have added more headaches than cures in the medical profession

Take it easy bro
Tinder box medicine. I actually wrote a long reply post. But decided to cancel it.

it doesnt matter really. Nobody cares anyway.
 

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Another POV

https://www.jccf.ca/doctors-colleges-in-canada-prefer-ideology-to-science/

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Doctors’ Colleges in Canada prefer ideology to science​

POSTED ON: JUNE 25, 2021
By John Carpay, The Post Millennial
The scientific method is used to seek explanations of events in nature by putting forward a hypothesis that can be tested with experiments or by observations, and that can potentially be disproven. Without a love for truth and an open mind, there is no scientific method.
In stark contrast, ideology is based on predetermined conclusions, and makes selective use of facts to fit the theory. Sadly, some of Canada’s provincial Colleges of Physicians and Surgeons are run by anti-science ideologues.
Earlier this week, Dr. Francis Christian, Clinical Professor of General Surgery at the University of Saskatchewan and a practising surgeon in Saskatoon, was fired after voicing safety concerns about Covid vaccines injected into children. He is also being investigated by the Saskatchewan College. On June 17, Dr. Christian released a statement to over 200 doctors which contained his concerns regarding giving the Covid shots to children. Among his points, he stated that:
  1. The m-RNA vaccine is a new, experimental vaccine never used by humans before.
  2. The m-RNA vaccines have not been fully authorized by Health Canada or by the U.S. Centre for Disease Control (CDC); “full vaccine approval takes several years and multiple safety considerations – this has not happened.”
  3. Covid does not pose a threat to our kids. The risk of them dying of covid is less than 0.003 percent—this is even less than the risk of them dying of the flu. There is no emergency in children.
  4. Children do not readily transmit the Covid virus to adults.
  5. M-RNA vaccines have been “associated with several thousand deaths” in the Vaccine Adverse Reporting System in the US.
  6. Vaccines have already caused “serious medical problems for kids” worldwide, including “a real and significantly increased risk” of myocarditis, inflammation of the heart. Dr. Christian notes the German national vaccine agency and the UK vaccine agency are not recommending the vaccine for healthy children and teenagers, and even the World Health Organization recommends the Covid vaccine only for those 18 and older.
In similar fashion, Doctors for Covid Ethics warns that Covid-19 vaccines pose major risks to children, including potential infertility. Covid vaccines have not been subjected to the lengthy, traditional clinical trials, and are therefore inherently risky.
On April 30, 2021, Ontario’s College warned its doctors that they “have a professional responsibility to not communicate anti-vaccine, anti-masking, anti-distancing and anti-lockdown statements” and must fully support public health orders and recommendations.
Dr. Patrick Phillips, a family physician in Englehart, Ontario, is one of a growing number of Canadian doctors who cannot ignore the massive harms that lockdowns are inflicting on their patients. Suicidal children, and people whose cancer went undiagnosed until it had already spread throughout their bodies, are two examples he mentioned at a recent news conference.
While Ontario’s College of Physicians and Surgeons prohibits recommending vitamin D to fight Covid, Dr. Phillips noted that there are “over 85 studies and 27 treatment trials. Many of these are peer-reviewed.”
Dr. Phillips added that the scientific literature has shown a 56 percent reduction in mortality in patients who take vitamin D compared to those who don’t for Covid-19.” He also stated that there are 97 studies and over 30 randomized control trials that have shown a huge benefit from Ivermectin in reducing the risk of death and hospitalization in patients who have Covid.
If scientists were in charge of the Ontario College, they would provide evidence to expose these dozens of studies on vitamin D and Ivermectin as fraudulent or flawed. Scientists would conduct better research and produce superior reports, to prove their hypothesis that vitamin D and Ivermectin are useless against Covid. But the College doesn’t believe in the scientific method, hence it bullies and intimidates doctors with disciplinary proceedings, threatening doctors with the potential loss of their license to practice medicine.
It is outrageous that the College expects Ontario doctors to forget their training to “do no harm,” and to threaten doctors for speaking out against the catastrophic damage that lockdowns have caused to their patients’ physical and mental health.
As Canadian Physicians for Science and Truth explains it: “The College of Physicians and Surgeons of Ontario is ordering physicians to put aside the scientific method and to not debate the processes and conclusions of science … [but] throughout history, opposing views, vigorous debate and openness to new ideas have been the bedrock of scientific progress.
Any major advance in science has been arrived at by practitioners vigorously questioning “official” narratives and following a different path in the pursuit of truth… By ordering us not to debate and not to question, the CPSO is also asking us to violate our pledge to our patients that we will always seek the best, evidence-based scientific methods for them and advocate vigorously on their behalf.”
This hostility to science is not limited to Ontario. The Nova Scotia Health Authority and the British Columbia College have threatened and disciplined Dr. Chris Milburn and Dr. Charles Hoffe, respectively, for questioning lockdowns and Covid vaccines.
Alberta’s doctors have also been threatened, their College stating: “It is important physicians across Alberta adapt their practices to ensure that they comply with the guidance of the Chief Medical Officer of Health.” The language is softer than that used by the Ontario College, but the message is identical: Do not question or challenge lockdown measures, neither publicly nor in private with your patients.
Perhaps Drs. Phillips, Milburn, Hoffe and Christian, and hundreds of other Canadian physicians, are entirely wrong when they reject the dominant narrative by, for example, opposing lockdowns, warning against injecting children with experimental vaccines, and pointing to evidence that Vitamin D and Ivermectin are effective tools against Covid. But their respective Colleges are anti-science when they shut down debate by threats, rather than providing evidence to support the dominant narrative. Those who love truth have no need to censor others’ views
 
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