Promotions/increment/bonus- base on performance or whether your boss like u?

[enterprise2]

Did u get a good promotion this year or a record bonus? Is it due to pure objective results. Or did u play the good political game and make your boss look good and got rewarded? Can u look at those who got promoted and say 'Yes, he or she deserves it!'. In times where we look at the widening income gap, the gulfs between the have and haves not, it's time we look at the ranking and evaluation system and see if it is equitable.

 

[Leongsam]

No promotion anywhere has ever been based on "pure" objectivity.

 

[jw5]

Did u get a good promotion this year or a record bonus? Is it due to pure objective results. Or did u play the good political game and make your boss look good and got rewarded? Can u look at those who got promoted and say 'Yes, he or she deserves it!'. In times where we look at the widening income gap, the gulfs between the have and haves not, it's time we look at the ranking and evaluation system and see if it is equitable.

Goodness gracious shit!
How many years have you been working? One?

 

[enterprise2]

Everyone here gripes about the unfair hiring process, of locals being shut out and FT HR hiring their own. I am just bringing up that even if u r hired, the evaluation process is also depends on your 'network', if u r not part of the 'gang' forget it!!

 

[gingerlyn]

it is based on cronyism.
just look at no porn lui and LTA saga and MRT breakdown.
what is performance as minister and demond quek are still earning millions of salary

 

[laksaboy]

Everything is easier if you're physically attractive. You don't even need to proactively porlumpar... your bosses (both sexes) will subconsciously look out for you, give you assistance and help you out. All you need to do is focus on your job and everything else will fall into place.

 

[AceFrehley]

Did u get a good promotion this year or a record bonus? Is it due to pure objective results. Or did u play the good political game and make your boss look good and got rewarded? Can u look at those who got promoted and say 'Yes, he or she deserves it!'. In times where we look at the widening income gap, the gulfs between the have and haves not, it's time we look at the ranking and evaluation system and see if it is equitable.

I had to promote myself. In our industry, no one would admit that he or she is the boss.

 

[Leongsam]

Everyone here gripes about the unfair hiring process, of locals being shut out and FT HR hiring their own. I am just bringing up that even if u r hired, the evaluation process is also depends on your 'network', if u r not part of the 'gang' forget it!!

If you started a company, would you hire someone you don't like?

 

[wMulew]

Everyone here gripes about the unfair hiring process, of locals being shut out and FT HR hiring their own. I am just bringing up that even if u r hired, the evaluation process is also depends on your 'network', if u r not part of the 'gang' forget it!!

The dumbfuck losers in here complain because they are mostly incompetent nincompoops and never get promoted. They blame FTs because they are useless and FT happen to be a convenient excuse

 

[jw5]

Everything is easier if you're physically attractive. You don't even need to proactively porlumpar... your bosses (both sexes) will subconsciously look out for you, give you assistance and help you out. All you need to do is focus on your job and everything else will fall into place.

You may also encounter a boss who is consciously or sub-consciously against those who are physically attractive.

 

[kohpc]

Every assessment will have an element of subjectivity. Objective assessment is usually based on measurable items . Subjective assessment usually involves the soft skills of the candidate and thats where bias and favouritism can creep in.

 

[JossSticksCandleWax]

Those who drink soursop juice are more likely to be businessmen, just like the masterful and venerable tonychat.

Only meat-eating losers talk about promotions and increment

 

[Leongsam]

Every assessment will have an element of subjectivity. Objective assessment is usually based on measurable items . Subjective assessment usually involves the soft skills of the candidate and thats where bias and favouritism can creep in.

You have a team of sales people. The guy who topped the sales charts regularly upsets all the others. He is not a team player. His presence has affected the morale of the rest of the team. Despite being the top salesman for 2013, you feel his presence in the team resulted in a 20% loss of productivity at team level.

Objectively he should be given a raise and a promotion based on the fact that he sold more than everyone else.

Subjectively you feel that you should fire him and the overall sales figures would rise considerably and would more than compensate for his absence if he was let go.

So what do you do?

 

[kohpc]

If you started a company, would you hire someone you don't like?

I would if I felt he could make good contributions. Just put emotions and personal feelings aside and get on with the job.

 

[kohpc]

You have a team of sales people. The guy who topped the sales charts regularly upsets all the others. He is not a team player. His presence has affected the morale of the rest of the team

I agree to the extent that this person is involved with a team. However some people may be required to do 'solo' type work eg troubleshooters.

 

[Leongsam]

I would if I felt he could make good contributions. Just put emotions and personal feelings aside and get on with the job.

To be honest, I have never seen this happen in my whole decade of working in the corporate world. You're a very unique character.

 

[kohpc]

To be honest, I have never seen this happen in my whole decade of working in the corporate world. You're a very unique character.

I think these things happen although not very often. A shared goal can make for strange bedfellows like sometimes in politics. They may not like one another but realise they have to work together to get what they want. Yes so I would employ someone that i am not particularly fond of as long as he or she can do a good and honest job.

 

[Leongsam]

I think these things happen although not very often. A shared goal can make for strange bedfellows like sometimes in politics. They may not like one another but realise they have to work together to get what they want. Yes so I would employ someone that i am not particularly fond of as long as he or she can do a good and honest job.

I've seen successful business partners who don't like each other. I've come across successful band members who hate each other but play in the same band because they compliment each other musically.

However, I have never in my life come across a manager in a company promoting someone he does not like.

 

[Asterix]

However, I have never in my life come across a manager in a company promoting someone he does not like.

That manager should recommend his disliked but very capable subordinate to another post which is simultaneously a promotion as well as a transfer out to another department! Kills two birds with one stone. Better still if that other department is headed by an impossible to please boss - 借刀杀人!

 

[Leongsam]

That manager should recommend his disliked but very capable subordinate to another post which is simultaneously a promotion as well as a transfer out to another department! Kills two birds with one stone. Better still if that other department is headed by an impossible to please boss - 借刀杀人!

I'm sure this has been done often.