PLA Colonel on SCS: I prpose American ships be sank when they came into Chinese water, RAMP sink also can!

[democracy my butt]

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戴旭：美国军舰再非法闯入中国领海 建议撞沉它

戴旭：美国军舰再非法闯入中国领海 建议撞沉它



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美国导弹驱逐舰“迪凯特”号9月30日驶入中国南沙群岛近南薰礁和赤瓜礁的海域内航行，声称进行所谓的“航行自由行动”，最终被中国军舰近距离警告驱离。美军公布了“迪凯特”号导弹驱逐舰与中国海军170舰在南海对峙的图片。


原标题：戴旭：美军舰再闯我领海，建议撞沉它！

[环球时报-环球网报道 记者 郭媛丹]“中美博弈与世界变局”2019环球时报年会8日在北京举办， 在“南海、台海是否会再起烽烟？”这一议题的讨论中，海洋安全与合作研究院院长戴旭表示，美国军舰再非法闯入中国领海，建议出动两条军舰，一条拦住它，一条撞沉它！“在我们的领海，不允许美国军舰横行”。
戴旭认为， 无论在南海还是台海，明年形势会趋于紧张，是不乐观的。“为什么把战场放在南海、台湾呢？如果台海发生紧张，我们也没有必要考虑太多，经济是发展大局，我们肯定要抢救大局。但是一旦机会送到面前，为什么不要呢？所以，形势紧张，反而会加速我们的统一，只不过是解放战争的开头。所以，我们没什么可怕的，做好准备，静观其变，只要战略机遇出现，我们要主动拿下。”
戴旭在南海问题上表达了一样的观点，认为美国宣扬的“航行自由”就是对中国的挑衅以及对主权的干涉。美国经常说“航行自由”，中国从来没有影响它的航行自由，在国际海域可以航行自由，但在中国的领海是不可以的。“中国的军舰拦截美国军舰的时候，很多人害怕，我不知道害怕什么。我当时跟他们说，美国军舰再到这个地方，建议两条军舰拦住它，一条拦住它，一条撞沉它，在我们的领海，不允许美国的军舰横行。”



Dai Xu: The US warships illegally broke into China’s territorial waters.
Dai Xu: The US warships illegally broke into China’s territorial waters.
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On September 30, the US guided missile destroyer Decatur sailed into the waters of the Nansha Islands near the South Reef and the Red Gua Reef in China, claiming to carry out the so-called "freedom of navigation" and was eventually driven away by Chinese warships. The US military announced pictures of the "Decatur" guided missile destroyer and the Chinese Navy's 170 ship in the South China Sea.

Original title: Dai Xu: The US warship slammed me into the sea again, suggesting to sink it!

[Global Times - Global Network Reporter Guo Yuandan] "China-US Game and World Change" 2019 Global Times Annual Meeting was held in Beijing on the 8th. In the discussion on the topic "Will the South China Sea and the Taiwan Strait come back?", maritime security and Dai Xu, the president of the cooperative research institute, said that the US warships illegally broke into China’s territorial waters and proposed to dispatch two warships, one to stop it and one to sink it! "In our territorial waters, US warships are not allowed to run."

Dai Xu believes that whether in the South China Sea or the Taiwan Strait, the situation will be tense next year, which is not optimistic. "Why do you put the battlefield in the South China Sea and Taiwan? If there is tension in the Taiwan Strait, we don't have to think too much. The economy is the overall development. We must rescue the overall situation. But if the opportunity is sent to the front, why not? So, the situation is tense. Instead, it will accelerate our unification, but it is only the beginning of the war of liberation. Therefore, we are not terrible, we are prepared to wait and see, and as long as strategic opportunities arise, we must take the initiative."

Dai Xu expressed the same view on the South China Sea issue, arguing that the "freedom of navigation" proclaimed by the United States is a provocation against China and interference in sovereignty. The United States often says "freedom of navigation". China has never affected its freedom of navigation. It can sail freely in international waters, but it is not acceptable in China's territorial waters. "When Chinese warships intercepted US warships, many people were afraid. I don't know what to fear. I told them that the US warships went to this place again and suggested that two warships stop it, one to stop it, one to sink it, in Our territorial waters do not allow American warships to run rampant."
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[democracy my butt]

They Dying US is courting death faster to avert prolonged pain suffered by fallen superpower, provoking Russia & China, want to be finished off by nuke war!

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美国军舰逼近俄军基地？俄方：离得还远 逃得很快

美国军舰逼近俄军基地？俄方：离得还远 逃得很快



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原标题：美舰逼近俄军基地？俄方：离得还远！逃得很快！
在美俄关系因为乌克兰和《中导条约》问题陷入紧张之际，美军“麦坎贝尔”号驱逐舰突然出现在俄罗斯彼得大帝湾附近，这是1987年以来，美国船只首次从这一海域经过。5日一早，就有美媒宣称，“麦坎贝尔”号此次航行的区域距离俄罗斯太平洋舰队基地极近，这是一次历史性突破！
俄罗斯国家台称，“这绝不是挑衅，而是一次明确的示威”。

美军声称，“麦坎贝尔”号导弹驱逐舰在公海自由航行法框架下，在日本海区域采取行动，以挑战俄罗斯过度的海上主张。
在目前俄乌冲突的节骨眼上，美军此举自然引发外界关注，被认为是绕到俄罗斯身后“搞事”。

从地理位置上看，彼得大帝湾位于日本海，毗邻俄罗斯远东城市符拉迪沃斯托克，而符拉迪沃斯托克正是俄罗斯太平洋舰队司令部所在地。俄太平洋舰队在这一区域设有两大海军基地群区，水面舰艇主要部署在符拉迪沃斯托克等港口基地，战略导弹核潜艇则主要部署在勘察加半岛的彼得罗巴甫洛夫斯克基地，地理位置敏感。

不过，到了5日晚上，俄国防部公开消息称，美军“麦坎贝尔”号驱逐舰实际上并没有接近俄罗斯领海，最近的地方距离俄领海都有100多公里，期间，俄太平洋舰队“特里布茨海军上将”号大型反潜舰与军机，在“麦坎贝尔”号通过国际海域时对其进行了近距离全程跟随监视，所以如果美国驱逐舰舰队的确“展示”出了什么，那么就是它以最快速度逃离太平洋舰队的跟踪监视。


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俄军强硬反制再令美军战舰落荒而逃 中国是否可效仿

俄军强硬反制再令美军战舰落荒而逃 中国是否可效仿



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美海军想挑衅俄罗斯遭打脸
在美俄关系因《中导条约》和乌克兰问题而愈发紧张之际，美国海军一艘导弹驱逐舰5日在日本海彼得大帝湾附近航行，声称此举是要挑战俄罗斯的12海里领海主张并维护美国及其他国家的“自由航行”。不过，美国军方的此次“耀武扬威”却被俄罗斯方面嘲笑了，俄国防部还特别点出，在本国军舰和战机的紧盯下，美军舰展示了“以最快速度逃离的本领”。很明显，此举给中国很好的上了一课：对待无理挑衅者，就要敢于出手。

美军直接挑衅太平洋舰队驻地
对于这次行动，最先爆料的是美国媒体，美军向媒体透露消息说，美国海军导弹驱逐舰DDG-85“麦康贝尔”号当天在日本海彼得大帝湾附近航行，这是美国海军自1987年以来，首次在这一海域执行此类挑衅行动。而众所周知，彼得大帝湾是俄罗斯太平洋舰队的驻地，该舰队主要就是对付美国及日本的。据称，DDG-85“麦康贝尔”号此举旨在挑战“俄罗斯过多的海事请求”，同时“维护美国及其他国家合法使用海洋的权利和自由”。

俄舰的吨位与美舰几乎不相上下
那么，对于美军舰的挑衅，俄罗斯是怎么做的呢？据俄罗斯国防部所称，DDG-85“麦康贝尔”号并没有接近俄罗斯领海，这艘军舰与俄领海最近时的距离都已经超过了100多公里，而最终则是在距离俄罗斯海岸超过400公里远的地方“展示自己的勇敢”。所以俄方认为，俄罗斯太平洋舰队似乎并没有把美国军舰的举动放在眼里，还嘲笑美方的此次“示威挑战”是不成功的，如果美舰过于接近则俄舰将坚决予以反击。

俄军历来有我舰奉命撞击你舰的传统
此外，俄罗斯还声称，俄太平洋舰队立刻派出了564号“特里布茨海军上将”号大型反潜舰，该舰属于1155型“无畏”级，排水量可达7000吨，在体量上有与美舰一撞的吨位。在DDG-85“麦康贝尔”号通过国际海域时，564号“特里布茨海军上将”号大型反潜舰就开始近距离全程跟随监控，俄海军航空兵飞机也对美舰进行了监视拍照。俄国防部在声明中讽刺地表示：“在俄方舰艇和军机的紧盯之下，美国的驱逐舰试图‘以最快速度逃离’”。

应学习为保辽宁舰而驶向美舰的登陆舰

分析认为，俄罗斯海军564号“特里布茨海军上将”号大型反潜舰对于美国海军DDG-85“麦康贝尔”号驱逐舰的挑衅作出的反应，可是说是俄罗斯日常对待美军挑衅的通常做法，这无疑是给中国对待同类的事件上了很好的一课。因为对于美军的挑衅，你越是害怕触怒对方，就会缩手缩脚，而对方看到你畏首畏尾，就会进一步得寸进尺。所以，未来美军舰对中国的挑衅预计还会增多，而对于在中国家门口的对方无理挑衅，大可不必顾虑太对而让对手愈来愈肆无忌惮。因此，应该学习俄罗斯的做法！（作者署名：军评陈光文）



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US warships approaching the Russian military base? Russian side: far away, escape quickly


US warships approaching the Russian military base? Russian side: far away, escape quickly



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Original title: US ship approaching the Russian military base? Russia: It is still far away! Escape quickly!

At a time when US-Russian relations were in tension because of Ukraine and the "Guide to the Treaty", the US destroyer "Mc Campbell" suddenly appeared near the Bay of Peter the Great in Russia. This is the first time since 1987 that American ships have passed through this area. On the morning of the 5th, there was a US media claim that the area where the "Mc Campbell" sailed was very close to the Russian Pacific Fleet Base. This is a historic breakthrough!

The Russian National Taiwan said, "This is not a provocation, but a clear demonstration."

The US military claimed that the "Mc Campbell" guided missile destroyer took action in the Sea of Japan region under the framework of the Freedom of Navigation Act of the High Seas to challenge Russia's excessive maritime claims.

At the current juncture of the Russian-Uzbek conflict, the US military’s move naturally attracted the attention of the outside world and was considered to be “making things around” behind Russia.

Geographically, Peter the Great Bay is located in the Sea of Japan, adjacent to the Russian Far East city Vladivostok, and Vladivostok is the seat of the Russian Pacific Fleet Command. The Russian Pacific Fleet has two naval bases in this area. The surface ships are mainly deployed at port bases such as Vladivostok, while the strategic missile submarines are mainly deployed in Petropavlovsk on the Kamchatka Peninsula. Base, geographically sensitive.

However, on the evening of the 5th, the Russian Defense Ministry publicly stated that the US destroyer "Mc Campbell" was not actually close to the Russian territorial waters. The nearest place was more than 100 kilometers from the Russian territorial waters. During the period, the Russian Pacific fleet "Trib The Admiral’s large anti-submarine warship and military aircraft followed the surveillance of the “Mc Campbell” in the international waters, so if the US destroyer fleet did “show” something, then it’s the most Quickly escape the tracking and surveillance of the Pacific Fleet.



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The Russian military’s tough opposition has caused the US warships to flee and flee. Can China follow suit?


The Russian military’s tough opposition has caused the US warships to flee and flee. Can China follow suit?



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The US Navy wants to provoke Russia to face the US Navy wants to provoke Russia to be beaten

At a time when US-Russia relations became more and more tense due to the "Guidelines on the Treaty" and the Ukrainian issue, the US Navy’s guided missile destroyer sailed near Peter the Great Bay on the 5th in Japan, claiming that the move was to challenge Russia’s 12-mile territorial claim. Maintain "free navigation" in the United States and other countries. However, the U.S. military’s "Yaowu Yangwei" was ridiculed by the Russian side. The Russian Defense Ministry also specifically pointed out that under the close stare of its own warships and warplanes, the US warships demonstrated "the ability to flee at the fastest speed." Obviously, this move has given China a good lesson: to deal with unreasonable provocations, we must dare to shoot.
The US military directly provokes the Pacific Fleet resident US troops to directly provoke the Pacific Fleet station

For this action, the first thing that broke the news was the US media. The US military revealed to the media that the US Navy guided missile destroyer DDG-85 "McConbel" sailed near the Bay of Peter the Great in Japan on the same day. This is the US Navy since 1987. For the first time, such provocative actions have been carried out in this area. As everyone knows, Peter the Great Bay is the residence of the Russian Pacific Fleet, which is mainly for the United States and Japan. It is said that the DDG-85 "McConbel" is intended to challenge "Russian excessive maritime claims" and "maintain the rights and freedoms of the United States and other countries to legally use the sea."
The tonnage of the Russian ship is almost equal to that of the US ship. The tonnage of the Russian ship is almost equal to that of the US ship.

So, what is Russia doing about the provocation of US warships? According to the Russian Ministry of Defense, the DMG-85 "McConbel" is not close to the Russian territorial waters. The distance between the warship and the Russian territorial waters has exceeded 100 kilometers, and in the end it is more than 400 from the Russian coast. The place of kilometers away "shows your bravery." Therefore, the Russian side believes that the Russian Pacific Fleet does not seem to put the actions of the US warships in the eye. It also ridicules that the US "demonstration of the demonstration" is unsuccessful. If the US ships are too close, the Russian ship will resolutely counterattack.
The Russian army has always had the traditional Russian army that our ship was ordered to hit your ship. The tradition of my ship was ordered to hit your ship.

In addition, Russia also claimed that the Russian Pacific Fleet immediately dispatched the No. 564 "Admiral Tribute" large anti-submarine ship, which belongs to the 1155 "fearless" class, with a displacement of 7,000 tons, and has a volume. The tonnage of the US ship hit. When the DDG-85 "McConbel" passed the international waters, the "Anti-Submarine Tribute" large-scale anti-submarine ship No. 564 began to follow the surveillance at close range. The Russian Naval Air Force also took photos of the US ship. . The Russian Defense Ministry said in a statement ironically: "Under the sharp focus of Russian ships and military aircraft, the US destroyers tried to 'escape as fast as possible'".
The landing ship that should learn to protect the Liaoning ship and sail to the US ship should learn to land the US ship for the Liaoning ship.

The analysis believes that the Russian Navy’s No. 564 “Admiral Tribute” large-scale anti-submarine ship responded to the provocation of the US Navy’s DDG-85 “McComber” destroyer, but it is the usual practice of Russia’s daily treatment of the US military’s provocation. This is undoubtedly a good lesson for China to treat similar events. Because of the provocation of the US military, the more you are afraid of angering the other side, you will shrink your hands, and the other side will see you timid and will be further advanced. Therefore, the provocation of the US warships against China is expected to increase in the future, and for the unreasonable provocation of the other party at the doorstep of the Chinese state, there is no need to worry too much and the opponents are becoming more and more unscrupulous. Therefore, you should learn Russian practices! (Author's signature: Military Review Chen Guangwen)

 

[democracy my butt]

WW3 is calling! Start missile fire ASAP!




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我军少将:中美关系处于危险十字路口 做好持久战准备

我军少将:中美关系处于危险十字路口 做好持久战准备



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10月1日美国海军学会（USNI）网站爆料，美国海军驱逐舰迪凯特（USS Decatur）于9月30日上午8：30左右，在南薰岛12海里范围内与中国海军驱逐舰发生“近距离接触”。该网站还指出，中美两艘驱逐舰一度仅相距45码（约41米），此后迪凯特舰进行了机动以避免碰撞。10月2日，美国海军方面又公布了当时由美军直升机拍摄的中美驱逐舰“体位”变化图。并进一步指出，此次与美舰进行“友好交流”的是052C型导弹驱逐舰兰州舰。就此，这条消息国外媒体也开始渲染：中美战舰差点发生了撞击。本期《出鞘》我们不妨廓清本次中美战舰“近距离接触”一事，就此谈谈中美两国海军战略现状和未来走向。（查看完整内容搜索微信公众号：sinamilnews）


原标题：海军少将杨毅：中美关系处于关键且危险的十字路口

[环球时报-环球网报道 记者 范凌志]当下的中美博弈发展到了什么程度？12月8日，《环球时报》2019年年会的第一议题“中美关系将向何处去？”中，国防大学战略研究所原所长、海军少将杨毅给出自己的判断：中美关系处于非常关键且危险的十字路口，要做好持久作战的准备。
“对中美关系的前景感到忧虑，现在处于非常关键与危险的十字路口。”杨毅表示，首先，中国与美国的战略目标貌似相互排斥，中国要民族复兴，美国要使自己更伟大，双方都认为对方的目标是在伤害自己。同时，目前的态势是美国进攻，中国防御。美国的综合战略焦虑症导致了“动作走形”。中美互动有可能失控而进入恶性循环，使得双方难以达成体面的妥协。
杨毅说，中美战略竞争已经涵盖了各个领域，各个领域的作用也在发生变化，政治领域的相互战略定位还在漂移，在安全关系特别是军事关系上相互防范，但是双方都尽量避免对抗。“总体来说中美关系动荡将持续一段时间，同时会做一些‘面子工程’。”对当下的战略态势，杨毅认为，中美关系的稳定不可能通过任何一方完全胜利或者任何一方完全妥协达成，“我们要做到不失控、不吃亏，不急不躁，做好持久作战的准备。”




Major General of our army: Sino-US relations are at a dangerous crossroads
Major General of our army: Sino-US relations are at a dangerous crossroads
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On October 1st, the US Navy Society (USNI) website broke the news that the US Navy destroyer USS Decatur was in close contact with the Chinese naval destroyer within 12 nautical miles of Nanxun Island at around 8:30 am on September 30. ". The site also pointed out that the two Chinese and American destroyers were only 45 yards (about 41 meters) apart, and the Decatur ship was maneuvered to avoid collision. On October 2, the US Navy announced the change of the "post position" of the Chinese and American destroyers photographed by US military helicopters. It is further pointed out that the "friendly exchange" with the US ship is the Lanzhou ship of the 052C guided missile destroyer. In this regard, the foreign media of this news also began to render: the Chinese and American warships almost hit. In this issue of "Sheathing", we may wish to clarify the "close contact" between the Chinese and American warships, and talk about the current status and future direction of the naval strategy between China and the United States. (View full content search WeChat public number: sinamilnews)

Original title: Rear Admiral Yang Yi: Sino-US relations are at a critical and dangerous crossroads

[Global Times - Global Network Reporter Fan Lingzhi] To what extent has the current Sino-US game developed? On December 8th, the first topic of the 2010 Annual Meeting of the Global Times, "Where will China-US relations go?", the former director of the National Defense Strategy Institute and the Rear Admiral Yang Yi gave his judgment: US relations are at a very critical and dangerous crossroads, and we must be prepared for long-term operations.

"I am worried about the prospects of Sino-US relations. Now it is at a very critical and dangerous crossroads." Yang Yi said, first of all, the strategic goals of China and the United States seem to be mutually exclusive. China wants national rejuvenation, and the United States wants to make itself greater. Both think that the opponent's goal is to hurt themselves. At the same time, the current situation is the US offensive and Chinese defense. The United States’ comprehensive strategic anxiety disorder has led to “action movements”. Sino-US interaction may go out of control and enter a vicious circle, making it difficult for both sides to reach a decent compromise.

Yang Yi said that China-US strategic competition has covered various fields, and the role of each field has also changed. The mutual strategic positioning of the political field is still drifting, and mutual protection is prevented in security relations, especially military relations, but both sides try to avoid confrontation. . "Overall, the turmoil in Sino-US relations will continue for some time, and at the same time, it will do some 'face projects.'" For the current strategic situation, Yang Yi believes that the stability of Sino-US relations cannot be completely victorious by either party or completely compromised by either party. To reach, "We have to be out of control, not losing money, not rushing, and preparing for a lasting battle."

 

[Leongsam]

Looks like China and Russia are fucked big time. This will teach them not to mess with Trump!

 

[eatshitndie]

just look at the pla colon's face. either he's a couch colon with a shitface or a s(h)itting rectum with a dorky look. all talk no walk.

this is the face of a true colonel who fought real wars.

 

[Ang4MohTrump]

just look at the pla colon's face. either he's a couch colon with a shitface or a s(h)itting rectum with a dorky look. all talk no walk.

this is the face of a true colonel who fought real wars.
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Forest Gum Gong Kia face! Typical Poor Retard Gene of Chow Ang Moh.

US forces are globally seen as lame and weak and coward now. Nobody give a shit nor face to them at all.

Tiny NK Iran (even Iraq gave USA the boot) Taliban Syria Yemen Somalia Libya etc etc none is afraid of US military. All looking forward to get as much chance of BIG KILL ENGAGEMENT with US MILITARY ASAP!

 

[Ang4MohTrump]

Malaysia is INVADING SINGAPORE WATER TO TEST US FORCES BASED IN PEE SAI! It is proven that US is useless lame BAPOK FART can not even Keep Pee Sai Water FREE from Dr M's boats! Malaysia can invade and occupy or CARNAGE SINGAPORE ANY TIME. No body is afraid of Dotard as Loong's lame Bapok BodyGuard.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

I would not like to underestimate the PLA...but it's also advisable not to over estimate the yanks. The effectiveness of the Yankee military is actually in decline. they r over spending on high tech expensive junk instead of being cost effective. Soon they will just spend themselves bankrupt. Which in some instances is already unsustainable

 

[Tony Tan]

I would not like to underestimate the PLA...but it's also advisable not to over estimate the yanks. The effectiveness of the Yankee military is actually in decline. they r over spending on high tech expensive junk instead of being cost effective. Soon they will just spend themselves bankrupt. Which in some instances is already unsustainable

The time changed and the balance of forces changed.

Tiny countries like NK Syria Iran Somalia Libya Yemen Afghanistan Iraq are all unafraid of USA, any more.

Only Singapore remaining as a sucker for USA. Sadly.

 

[steffychun]

PLA Colnel more garang than our SAF fake generals.