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PLA & Ah Neh Border Troops Boxing Match: More Ah Nehs than PLA killed. Neh left their dead injured & FLED, all surrendered to PLA before FREEZING DEAD

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中印冲突有中国官兵牺牲 印军有很多人向解放军投降

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中印边境一线解放军官兵英勇、团结,可歌可泣
印度防长辛格星期二宣称,6月15日加勒万河谷冲突中印军给中方造成重大人员伤亡。他这样说话是对印度民族主义势力的鼓舞,老胡今天要揭穿他。据我向中方知情人士了解,在那场严重肢体冲突中,中国牺牲的官兵远远少于印度丧生官兵的人数,印军在那场冲突中一共有20名官兵死亡,其中很多是受伤后得不到医治冻死的。当然了,即使中方有一名军人牺牲,也是重大人员损失。
据老胡了解,解放军一线官兵们英勇,团结,他们大多是90后甚至00后,面对突如其来的冲突,他们没有一人惧战,所有官兵的表现都可歌可泣。
印军不讲信义,那天我军少数官兵前往越界印军处进行交涉,印军突然向他们下毒手,导致双方冲突的爆发。在最初寡不敌众时,我方有的军人搏斗到了最后一口气,无一被印军俘虏。我军官兵开始反击后,印方部队溃不成军,做鸟兽散,有的摔到山下,有的掉进河里,互不相顾,还有很多人向解放军投降,被抓了俘虏。
在班公湖北岸的冲突中,印军“先发制人”(就是越界),占领高地,并居高临下向解放军扔石头。但我了解到,英勇的解放军战士不睬印军威胁,硬是冲上高地,赶走了印军。我军目前总体上在多个点位上形成了对峙优势。
知情人士告诉老胡,在中印边境地区的解放军一线官兵士气十分高昂,印军根本不是他们的对手。今年以来的几场冲突重挫了印军蚕食我国领土的气焰,让印方重新认识了中国坚决捍卫本国领土主权的决心和意志。
中印外长上周在莫斯科达成五点共识,我们真诚希望那些共识能够得到全面落实,中印边境地区形势迎来一个转折点。但这需要印度政府和全社会都冷静下来,形成他们对中印关系的集体理性。印方要想在边境问题上动粗,只会蒙受损失,而占不了任何他们想要的便宜。印军的士气根本无法与解放军相比,印军的装备、印度整个国力也都无法与中方匹敌。据了解,目前解放军在中印边境地区形成了强大部署,后勤能力十分先进,在现地的官兵都能吃上品种多样的热饭热菜,在当地过冬不成问题。这支军队随时可以给予印军的新挑衅沉重回击,而且中国人都相信,解放军今后决不会再对挑衅的印军有半点客气。这意味着,印军成为不了印方实现无理边界要求的筹码,通过谈判化解纠纷不仅是双方的好选择,而且首先是印方唯一可行的选择。
最后我要说,向英勇的解放军一线官兵致敬,向烈士的英魂致敬。同时也向斗争在复杂战线的外交人员致敬。



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In the Sino-Indian conflict, Chinese officers and soldiers sacrificed and many Indians surrendered to the PLA


September 17, 2020 20:51 Global Times



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The bravery and unity of the PLA officers and soldiers on the front line of the China-India border is eloquent

Indian Defense Minister Singh declared on Tuesday that the conflict between the Chinese and Indian forces in the Kalwan Valley on June 15 caused heavy casualties to China. His words like this are an inspiration to the Indian nationalist forces, and Lao Hu wants to expose him today. As far as I know from people familiar with the Chinese side, in that severe physical conflict, China killed far fewer officers and soldiers than India killed. In that conflict, 20 officers and soldiers died in the Indian army, many of whom were injured. It won't be cured. Of course, even if one Chinese soldier died, it would be a heavy loss.

According to Lao Hu's understanding, the frontline officers and soldiers of the People's Liberation Army are brave and united. Most of them are born in the 90s or even 00s. In the face of sudden conflict, none of them feared the war. All officers and soldiers performed well.

The Indian army is not faithful. A few officers and soldiers of our army went to the cross-border Indian army to negotiate. The Indian army suddenly attacked them, leading to the outbreak of conflict between the two sides. When outnumbered at first, some of our soldiers fought to the last breath, and none of them were captured by the Indian army. After our army officers and soldiers began to counterattack, the Indian troops were crushed and scattered, some fell down the mountain, some fell into the river, neglecting each other, and many people surrendered to the PLA and were captured.

In the conflict on the northern shore of Pangong Lake, the Indian army "preemptively" (that is, crossing the border), occupied high ground, and condescendingly threw stones at the PLA. But I learned that the brave soldiers of the People's Liberation Army did not ignore the threats of the Indian army and rushed to the high ground and drove away the Indian army. At present, our army has formed a confrontational advantage at multiple points.

People familiar with the matter told Lao Hu that the morale of the frontline officers and soldiers of the People's Liberation Army in the Sino-Indian border area is very high, and the Indian army is not their opponent at all. The several conflicts since the beginning of this year have severely dampened the arrogance of the Indian army to encroach on our country's territories, allowing the Indian side to re-understand China's determination and will to resolutely defend its sovereignty.

The Chinese and Indian foreign ministers reached a five-point consensus in Moscow last week. We sincerely hope that those consensuses can be fully implemented, and the situation in the China-India border area will usher in a turning point. But this requires the Indian government and the whole society to calm down and form their collective rationality for China-India relations. If the Indian side wants to make a rude on the border issue, it will only suffer losses and cannot take any advantage they want. The morale of the Indian army cannot be compared with that of the People's Liberation Army. The equipment of the Indian army and India's entire national strength cannot match China. It is understood that the People's Liberation Army has formed a strong deployment in the Sino-Indian border area, and its logistical capabilities are very advanced. The officers and soldiers on the spot can eat a variety of hot meals and vegetables, and it is not a problem to spend the winter locally. This army can give the Indian army a heavy counterattack at any time, and the Chinese believe that the People's Liberation Army will never be more polite to the provocative Indian army in the future. This means that the Indian military cannot become a bargaining chip for the Indian side to realize its unreasonable border requirements. Resolving disputes through negotiation is not only a good choice for both parties, but first of all, it is the only viable option for the Indian side.

Finally, I would like to say that I pay tribute to the brave officers and soldiers of the People's Liberation Army and the heroic souls of the martyrs. At the same time, it also pays tribute to the diplomats who struggle on complex fronts.
 

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中印流血衝突 胡錫進證實有解放軍陣亡

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中印兩軍6月中旬在邊界爆發嚴重流血衝突,中共官媒環球時報總編輯胡錫進昨晚首度證實有解放軍在這場衝突中陣亡;他宣稱中國犧牲的官兵遠遠少於印軍喪生的人數。
中印兩軍6月中旬在邊界爆發嚴重流血衝突,胡錫進首度證實有解放軍陣亡。

中印兩軍6月中旬在邊界爆發嚴重流血衝突,胡錫進首度證實有解放軍陣亡。
中印兩軍6月15日晚間在邊境西段加勒萬河谷(Galwan Valley)爆發迄今最嚴重的流血衝突,雙方持棍棒、石塊等原始武器互毆。印度陸軍事後表示有20名印軍陣亡,印媒指共軍有多達43人死傷,但中國一直未公布解放軍死傷人數。

胡錫進17日晚間在微博發文引述中方知情人士稱,在那場嚴重肢體衝突中,「中國犧牲的官兵遠遠少於印度喪生官兵的人數」,印軍在那場衝突中一共有20名官兵死亡,其中很多是受傷後得不到醫治凍死的。

他宣稱,當天共軍少數官兵前往越界印軍處進行交涉,印軍突然向共軍「下毒手」,導致雙方衝突的爆發。在最初寡不敵眾時,中方有的軍人搏鬥到了最後一口氣,無一被印軍俘虜。共軍官兵開始反擊後,「印方部隊潰不成軍,做鳥獸散,有的摔到山下,有的掉進河裡,互不相顧,還有很多人向解放軍投降,被抓了俘虜」。

胡錫進雖然首度證實有解放軍陣亡,但他沒有說明具體傷亡數字。

針對中印兩軍8月15日又在拉達克(Ladakh)東部班公湖(Pangong Tso)北岸發生流血衝突,胡錫進並稱,印軍先發制人越界佔領高地,並居高臨下向解放軍扔石頭。但據他瞭解,「英勇的解放軍戰士不睬印軍威脅,硬是衝上高地,趕走了印軍。我軍目前總體上在多個點位上形成了對峙優勢」。

印度國防部長辛赫(Rajnath Singh)15日在國會表示,印軍在6月15日加勒萬河谷等衝突事件給中方造成重大人員傷亡。

胡錫進昨晚聲稱,辛赫這樣說話是「對印度民族主義勢力的鼓舞」,所以他要「揭穿」辛赫。



The bloody conflict between China and India Hu Xijin confirms that the People's Liberation Army was killed
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In mid-June, the Chinese and Indian armed forces erupted in severe bloody conflict on the border. Hu Xijin, the editor-in-chief of the Chinese Communist Party’s official media Global Times, confirmed for the first time last night that the People’s Liberation Army had been killed in the conflict; he claimed that the Chinese killed far fewer soldiers than the Indians Number of people.
In mid-June, the Chinese and Indian armed forces broke out in severe bloody clashes on the border. Hu Xijin confirmed for the first time that the People's Liberation Army had been killed.
In mid-June, the Chinese and Indian armed forces broke out in serious bloodshed on the border, and Hu Xijin confirmed for the first time that the People's Liberation Army had been killed.

On the evening of June 15th, the Chinese and Indian armed forces broke out in the worst bloody conflict so far in the Galwan Valley on the western part of the border. The two sides beat each other with primitive weapons such as clubs and stones. The Indian Army later stated that 20 Indian troops were killed and Indian media claimed that as many as 43 people were killed or injured in the Communist Army, but China has not announced the number of casualties of the People's Liberation Army.

On the evening of the 17th, Hu Xijin quoted a Chinese person familiar with the matter in a Weibo post saying that in that serious physical conflict, "China killed far fewer officers and soldiers than India killed." The Indian army had 20 officers and soldiers in that conflict. Death, many of them died of freezing after being injured without treatment.

He claimed that a small number of communist officers and soldiers went to the cross-border Indian army to negotiate, and the Indian army suddenly "smashed" the communist army, leading to the outbreak of conflict between the two sides. When outnumbered at first, some Chinese soldiers fought to the last breath, and none was captured by the Indian army. After the communist army officers and soldiers began to counterattack, "Indian troops were disintegrated. Some fell down the mountain, some fell into the river, neglecting each other, and many others surrendered to the PLA and were captured."

Although Hu Xijin first confirmed that the People's Liberation Army had been killed in battle, he did not specify the number of casualties.

In response to the bloody clash between the Chinese and Indian armies on the north shore of Pangong Tso in eastern Ladakh on August 15, Hu Xijin also stated that the Indian army preemptively crossed the border and occupied the high ground, and condescendingly threw stones at the PLA. However, according to his understanding, "the brave PLA soldiers ignored the threats of the Indian Army and rushed to the high ground and drove away the Indian Army. At present, our army has formed a confrontational advantage at multiple points."

Indian Defense Minister Rajnath Singh stated in Parliament on the 15th that the Indian army caused heavy casualties to the Chinese side during the conflicts in the Kalwan Valley on June 15.

Hu Xijin claimed last night that Singh’s remarks were "an encouragement to Indian nationalist forces," so he wanted to "expose" Singh.
 

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Tiongs turned into Ah Neh.

Just like CECA virus, Tiongs use their 'mouth cannons' the most. Against a big enough country.

Even though in the history of mankind, no country has failed to raze, eliminate, obliterate, eviscerate, a smaller CECA country. Until present day Tiongkok failed to do so against CECA.


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India digs tunnel on crucial China border frontier
September 18, 2020 9:46pm
India will this month open the world's longest high altitude traffic tunnel that will cut crucial hours off the time needed to speed troops and weapons to the remote border where it is in a standoff with China.
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A tunnel nearing completion in the Indian Himalayas will slash by hours the time it takes troops to reach the Chinese border, part of an infrastructure blitz by New Delhi that is gathering pace since a bloody border clash.
The nuclear-armed Asian giants blame each other for a brutal high-altitude battle in June that left 20 Indian soldiers dead and an unspecified number of Chinese casualties.
Both have sent massive troop reinforcements, but India has also stepped up its activities behind the front lines — belatedly so, analysts say.
Its infrastructure program includes roads and bridges as well as high-altitude helipads and airstrips for civilian and military aircraft.
The showpiece is a $547 million (US $400 million) tunnel in Himachal Pradesh state, providing an all-weather route for military convoys to avoid a 50km trudge through mountain passes that are snowbound in winter and subject to frequent landslides.
From late this month, what used to be a four-hour, winding, high-altitude crossing will be cut to a 10-minute dash through the mountains in the state-of-the-art tunnel.
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Labourers work inside the Atal Rohtang Tunnel in Himachal Pradesh state. Picture: Money Sharma / AFP Source: AFPThe tunnel will slash the time it takes to rush troops to the Chinese border. Picture: Money Sharma / AFP Source: AFPChief Engineer of the Project Atal Rohtang Tunnel, poses for a photograph inside the tunnel. Picture: Money Sharma / AFP Source: AFP
“There have been times on the pass route when vehicles have broken down, causing traffic jams of even six to eight hours,” said Lieutenant-General Harpal Singh, head of India’s Border Roads Organisation (BRO).
“This tunnel and the other infrastructure plans change a lot for the troops,” he told AFP.
ENGINEERING FEAT
Labourers are working overtime to get the tunnel ready before Prime Minister Narendra Modi is due to open it later this month.
Currently, essential items such as arms, ammunition and food have to be transported up in bulk before winter starts in an area where temperatures can plunge to minus 40 Celsius.
Constructed at an altitude of more than 3000 metres and stretching nine kilometres, the Atal Rohtang tunnel is also a feat of engineering.
A decade in the making, freezing winter temperatures meant work could only take place from April to September. Workers wore special microchips to help locate them if they got trapped in an avalanche.
Still, India’s efforts only belatedly mirror those of China, experts say. “Earlier administrations wasted two decades,” said Harsh Pant, from the Observer Research Foundation think-tank in New Delhi.
“China, and its infrastructure, is much stronger today.”
Workers at the northern end of the tunnel in Teling village in Lahaul and Spiti district of Himachal Pradesh state. Picture: Money Sharma / AFP Source: AFP
TRAINING THE LOCALS
Sanjay Kundu, the Himachal Pradesh police chief, has also proposed arming locals and training them to report possible Chinese spies and drone and helicopter sightings.
“Ultimately, whether it is at the border or the hinterland, people need to be trained and they need to be trained in defending themselves,” he told AFP.
The government hopes it will reassure worried villagers.
“In the last few weeks they’ve seen a lot more activity of fighter planes over the region,” said Lobsang Gyaltsen, an elected representative from a village around 30 kilometres from the border.
“They often wonder if China is attacking,” Gyaltsen told AFP.
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The BRO says it has built more strategic roads — most in the high-tension zone next to China — the last four years than in the previous decade and aims to complete 15 more key routes by the end of 2021.
Labourers are upgrading a recently completed 250 kilometre stretch parallel to the Chinese frontier that cuts journey times from Ladakh’s capital Leh from one week to less than a day.
Significantly, by next month all bridges along the route will be able to support the weight of a 70-tonne T-90 tank on a trailer, or a truck carrying a surface-to-air missile, according to press reports.
There are several strategic high-altitude tunnels as well as 125 bridges at different stages of planning in the states of Ladakh, Arunachal Pradesh, Himachal Pradesh and Sikkim bordering Tibet and Xinjiang.
Besides the strategic value, the improvements will also be life-changing for people who can be cut off from the rest of India for months in winter.
This will boost the local economy and attract more people to the sparsely populated area, and so make it less prone to cross-border incursions by the Chinese, the government hopes.
 

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LOL, Hu Xijin... the Goebbels of the Chinazis. :biggrin:

Whatever he says, just reverse it and you're much closer to the truth.
 

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An Indian Air Force Rafale jet flies over Leh, the main city in the contested Ladakh region on the
An Indian Air Force Rafale jet flies over Leh, the main city in the contested Ladakh region on the border with China. (Photo: AFP/Mohd Arhaan ARCHER)
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NEW DELHI: India's new French Rafale jets have flown "familiarisation" flights above the border region contested with China where a deadly clash between soldiers from the nuclear-armed neighbours took place in June, an official told AFP on Monday (Sep 21).

The first five planes of a US$9.4 billion order for 36 Rafale aircraft were formally commissioned on Sep 10, with Defence Minister Rajnath Singh calling them a "strong message" to New Delhi's adversaries.

"Rafale fighter jets have been familiarising in our operational areas including Ladakh," a senior air force official told AFP on condition of anonymity.

In mid-June, Chinese and Indian soldiers engaged in violent hand-to-hand fighting in the Ladakh region that left 20 Indian troops dead.

China has also acknowledged suffering casualties but has not revealed any figures.

In another incident in early September, shots were fired for the first time in 45 years on the border with China.
 
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