Serious PAPpies concerned over Mudland's permanent Restricted Area over Pasir Gudang

[pck1965]

PAPpies concerned over Mudland's permanent Restricted Area over Pasir Gudang

Singapore registers concern over permanent Restricted Area over Pasir Gudang

Staff Writer, Singapore
Yahoo News Singapore2 January 2019

Singapore and Malaysia are set to discuss the Seletar Airport/Pasir Gudang airspace issue on 8 January 2019. (FILE PHOTO: Yahoo News Singapore)
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Even as Singapore and Malaysia have set up a meeting between their respective foreign ministers to discuss the ongoing airspace issues, Singapore has registered another concern over Malaysia’s establishment of a “permanent Restricted Area” over the Pasir Gudang airspace from Wednesday (2 January).
The Ministry of Transport (MOT) released a media statement on Tuesday in response to the Civil Aviation Authority of Malaysia publishing a Notice to Airmen on 25 December to inform the aviation community of its establishment of a “permanent Restricted Area for the purpose of military activities over Pasir Gudang”.
It said, “The Restricted Area being within a controlled and congested airspace will impact the existing and normal operations of aircraft transiting through the airspace.”
MOT has further proposed a meeting with the Malaysian authorities to discuss the establishment of the Restricted Area.
Foreign ministers meeting on 8 January
In a separate statement, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) said that Singapore foreign minister Vivian Balakrishnan will meet with his Malaysian counterpart Saifuddin Abdullah in Singapore on 8 January.
While the statement did not elaborate on what will be discussed, Bernama on Tuesday quoted Saifuddin as saying the dispute over airspace would be on the agenda.
MFA added that there are plans for the transport ministers of both countries to meet soon.
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MFA also said that Deputy Prime Minister and Coordinating Minister for National Security Teo Chee Hean and Finance Minister Heng Swee Keat had visited Putrajaya on Monday to convey a message to Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad, on behalf of Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong.
While MFA did not elaborate on details of the message, Saifuddin told Bernama on Tuesday, “My visit to Singapore is a continuation of the meeting yesterday. There are several issues, but the one that must be given immediate attention is Singapore’s plans for the Seletar Airport which will pass through the airspace over Pasir Gudang, Johor.
“We protested and declared the airspace a restricted area, and this will be a problem to Singapore. I am confident the issue will be discussed well to find a win-win solution for both countries.”
Singapore’s Transport Minister Khaw Boon Wan had said last month that the Republic is gearing up for talks over the maritime issue in January and is planning to negotiate “in good faith”.
Recent airspace, port limits issues
Airspace – as well as port limits – has become a bilateral issue in recent months. Malaysia has objected to new landing procedures at Seletar Airport scheduled to be enforced on 3 January. It claims that the Instrument Landing System procedures will adversely affect developments in Johor’s Pasir Gudang Port and also wants to reclaim management of the airspace, where Singapore has been providing air traffic services since 1974.
Singapore has said that the procedures – which will guide pilots landing there with ground instruments instead of relying on their visual assessment – will not pose any safety or security risks to operations at Pasir Gudang Port. It also said that management of the skies has nothing to do with sovereignty but was delegated to Singapore’s management under an agreement with regional states, including Malaysia, in 1973, and this was approved by the International Civil Aviation Organisation.
Malaysia also unilaterally extended the Johor Baru port limits such that they encroach on Singapore’s territorial waters off Tuas. In response, Singapore extended its own port limits on 6 December, a move that drew protest from Malaysia.
PM Lee said in his New Year Message that both nations “must manage specific problems, however difficult, while preserving the overall relationship”.
“The way to do so is through equality and mutual respect, upholding international commitments and the rule of law,” he added.
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[pck1965]

If the chow ah gua so scored to arrest m&ds near Tuas, what's the use of NS?

Just abolish NS and wasteful spending. So scared of a fight, then what's the meaning of all the wayang hor?+

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Why should there be air restrictions over a heavy industrial area? Disturbing the residents?

 

[ginfreely]

Didn’t I say the ILS is just an excuse to kick us out of the airspace? Now what is the mudland collaborators going to say about this latest move by m&d rats?

 

[ginfreely]

Didn’t I say the ILS is just an excuse to kick us out of the airspace? Now what is the mudland collaborators going to say about this latest move by m&d rats?

Anything you want to say on this mudland collaborator @Papsmearer aka @ckmpd ?

 

[syed putra]

Whose ideas was it to start this ils shit?

 

[Pek Kim Lui]

Why should there be air restrictions over a heavy industrial area? Disturbing the residents?

JUST TO CREATE PROBLEMS MAH

 

[Pek Kim Lui]

Whose ideas was it to start this ils shit?

EVIL MELAU BUMI SOBs

 

[Papsmearer]

In fact, this is already a very reasonable request by the Malaysian authorities. Its not an issue of national airspace. If you fly into Changi from the north, you can see that your plane already over flies Johor state and even some of the Riau islands. The Malaysians are not restricting these overflights at all. But the situation with Pasir Gudang is different. They have a port facility there and with the ILS, they are restricted in how high they can install cranes, or build dormitories, or other taller buildings. The malaysians had already informed singapore over their concerns but the arrogant pricks continued ahead with the ILS.

 

[rushifa666]

Come lah why moved two budget airlines tk seletar? Who started this shit?

 

[ginfreely]

In fact, this is already a very reasonable request by the Malaysian authorities. Its not an issue of national airspace. If you fly into Changi from the north, you can see that your plane already over flies Johor state and even some of the Riau islands. The Malaysians are not restricting these overflights at all. But the situation with Pasir Gudang is different. They have a port facility there and with the ILS, they are restricted in how high they can install cranes, or build dormitories, or other taller buildings. The malaysians had already informed singapore over their concerns but the arrogant pricks continued ahead with the ILS.

Good finally you emerged mudland collaborator and proved me right about you.

 

[winnipegjets]

Why should there be air restrictions over a heavy industrial area? Disturbing the residents?

It is their airspace. They can do whatever they want. When sinkapore left Mudland, it had lost its spot at the table to influence mudland. That's the reality and the PAP got to get use to that.

 

[winnipegjets]

Good finally you emerged mudland collaborator and proved me right about you.

I think PAPSmearer speaks the truth. If you follow the PAP blindly, you will end up in a deep hole.

 

[winnipegjets]

Didn’t I say the ILS is just an excuse to kick us out of the airspace? Now what is the mudland collaborators going to say about this latest move by m&d rats?

But it is their airspace. They can even close it. What can we do? Nothing.

 

[winnipegjets]

Mudland is showing sinkapore that it can do as it pleases just like sinkapore. We implement ILS in Seletar airport, deciding unilaterally the flight paths. We don't give face to Mudland. They raise concern, we just shut them down.
Okay, Mudland just take unilateral action on THEIR airspace. What can peesai do? Send ministars to Putrajaya. Too late lah. Mudland already give us face when they raise the issue. PAP escalated it by claiming violation of sovereignty and then Gen Kee Chiu and Gen Tan act like Rambos.
Mudland tiam tiam ...just implement their measures. Now how? Sinkapore invade Mudland is the only recourse or we eat our humble pie and cancel the ils implementation for Seletar.
Whatever the action will be, the damage has been done. Which Ministar should be held accountable for this fiasco?

 

[chewlwb]

Maybe Singkapore should establish restricted area in sea between P. Tekong and Changi, or between P. Ubin and Changi. Sea between Ubin and Mudland or Tekong and Mudland too shallow for big ship to pass. Then Pasir Gudang port can close shop.

 

[steffychun]

We have the best air force in SE Asia but can't do anything except fly during NDP.

 

[winnipegjets]

Maybe Singkapore should establish restricted area in sea between P. Tekong and Changi, or between P. Ubin and Changi. Sea between Ubin and Mudland or Tekong and Mudland too shallow for big ship to pass. Then Pasir Gudang port can close shop.

Go for it. I think it is time we show Mudland who is the boss.

 

[ginfreely]

It is their airspace. They can do whatever they want. When sinkapore left Mudland, it had lost its spot at the table to influence mudland. That's the reality and the PAP got to get use to that.

I read somewhere before that it’s common to use neighbour airspace to land. The fact that they are creating issues out of no issues to make this difficult for Singapore shows that they are petty and bad neighbour. And they only do that to Spore and not Indonesia Thailand shows that they are a big bully.

 

[ginfreely]

Maybe Singkapore should establish restricted area in sea between P. Tekong and Changi, or between P. Ubin and Changi. Sea between Ubin and Mudland or Tekong and Mudland too shallow for big ship to pass. Then Pasir Gudang port can close shop.

Ya this is correct tit for tat, mudland can close airspace means we can close water space. Seriously this is the only way to deal with barbarians, talking is just a waste of time - tried and tested by me.