Serious PAP Seah Kian Peng Rebukes Discredited Historian Thum For His Disloyalty To Singapore! Thum Trying To Suck Mad Hatter's Old Cock!

[JohnTan]

SINGAPORE — Marine Parade GRC Member of Parliament Seah Kian Peng on Saturday (Sept 1) hit out at historian Thum Ping Tjin for suggesting that Singaporeans should also rejoice on Malaysia's independence day which fell on the previous day.

Earlier this week, Dr Thum, along with political dissident Tan Wah Piow, freelance journalist Kirsten Han, civil rights activist Jolovan Wham and award-winning graphic novelist Sonny Liew, made the headlines, after they held a one hour and 20 minutes meeting with Malaysia Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad in Kuala Lumpur.

Writing on Facebook, Mr Seah said: "It appears quite clear to me that PJ Thum does not wish Singapore well. It is interesting that Kirsten, Jolovan and Sonny should associate themselves with Thum."

On Thursday, Dr Thum posted on Facebook: "Selamat Hari Merdeka to the people of the former Federation of Malaya! (and happy unofficial independence day to the people of Singapore!)"


Separately, Singapore Democratic Party member Teo Soh Lung also commented on a Facebook video by socio-political website The Online Citizen that "Singapore is part of Malaya la”.

Mr Seah said: "Really? This is what PJ Thum and Teo Soh Lung and the SDP believe in their heart of hearts?" He added that Ms Teo's reference to “Malaya”, and not “Malaysia” was "a tip of the hat, I presume, to the name the Communist Party of Malaya (CPM) preferred for the peninsula, including Singapore".

Mr Seah pointed out: "Is it also a coincidence that they had accompanied Tan Wah Piow on this visit to Dr M? Tan was convicted for rioting in 1975 and slipped out of Singapore upon his release from (prison) to avoid National Service. Several of Tan’s comrades from that time subsequently joined the CPM’s radio station, 'Voice of the Malayan Revolution', in Changsha, China."

He reiterated that he was "amazed" that Dr Thum and his supporters should proclaim that Singapore is part of Malaysia or Malaya. "Perhaps that is why he thinks it is permissible to ask its current prime minister to interfere in our affairs," Mr Seah said.

On the group's meeting with Dr Mahathir, Mr Seah noted that Dr Thum invited the Malaysia Prime Minister to "bring democracy to Singapore". "I wonder what deep historical insight prompted him to make this plea, to Dr M, whose views on the Water Agreement with Singapore, and Singapore knowing its place in relation to Malaysia are well known," Mr Seah said.

He added: "Perhaps I should remind PJ Thum that our Constitution requires any change to the sovereignty of Singapore to be approved by two-thirds of all voters in a referendum. This requirement was put in by our founding leaders. As a result of our searing experience in the 23 months when we were part of Malaysia, they knew how important it was to safeguard our independence and sovereignty."

When the constitutional amendment was moved in Parliament, Singapore's first Law Minister E W Barker, who was the author of the Separation Agreement, said that “in the methodology of the destruction of a nation by its foes, war by force of arms is not necessarily the only means employed. The independence of a nation may, by more subtle means, be subverted", Mr Seah noted.

"(Mr Barker) also said: 'The seductive blandishments of foreign agents must not be allowed to succeed.' Quite right and I am sure Singaporeans will agree with that," Mr Seah said.

https://www.todayonline.com/singapo...reans-should-celebrate-malaysias-independence

 

[Kotekbengkok]

Is this Seah trying to to be bigger clown than kee Chui. Has he read history. Sprouting nonsense.
He needs to read this and get educated.

http://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/history/events/41ed30f7-74db-4134-846e-eb031c57f9c5
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Lee Kuan Yew declares de facto independence for
Singapore 31st Aug 1963



On 31 August 1963, then Prime Minister of Singapore Lee Kuan Yew declared de facto independence for the island state ahead of the official proclamation of the Federation of Malaysia.[1] The inauguration of Malaysia was originally slated to take place on 31 August 1963, but the federal government in Kuala Lumpur postponed it by about two weeks to 16 September in order to give the United Nations (UN) more time to complete its mission to determine whether the people in the Borneo territories of Sabah and Sarawak were in favour of being part of Malaysia. The UN mission was undertaken to allay the objections by both Indonesia and the Philippines to the formation of Malaysia.[2]

A ceremonial rally was held on the steps of City Hall on 31 August to mark the occasion, and Lee made a speech where he pledged Singapore’s loyalty to the federal government in Kuala Lumpur. He stated that this loyalty “transcends party rivalries and petty personal differences” and was “an unalterable principle” to the unity and prosperity of Malaysia. In addition, Lee noted that declaring Singapore’s de facto independence was “an assertion of [its] right to freedom” and it signified the end of British colonial rule in Singapore.[3] In the interim between 31 August and 16 September, all powers over defence and external affairs of the state were transferred to Yusof bin Ishak, then the Yang di-Pertuan Negara (Malay for “Head of State”) of Singapore. He would hold these powers in trust for the federal government until the official proclamation of Malaysia.[4]

The federal and British governments were, however, unhappy with Singapore’s declaration of independence. Both sides did not send representatives to attend the ceremony as they questioned the legality and validity of Singapore’s claim to powers over its defence and external affairs.[5] The federal government also felt that Lee had encouraged Sabah and Sarawak to follow in Singapore’s footstep as they had also declared their de facto independence on the same day as Singapore.[6] Nonetheless, after the UN had completed its mission in Borneo and discovered that the majority of the people in Sabah and Sarawak supported the merger, the formation of the Federation of Malaysia was officially declared on 16 September 1963.[7]

References
1. Lau, A. (2003). A moment of anguish: Singapore in Malaysia and the politics of disengagement (pp. 16–17). Singapore: Eastern Universities Press. Call no.: RSING 959.5705 LAU.
2. S’pore’s M-Day aim is still Aug. 31. (1963, August 19). The Straits Times, p. 19; Singapore gets set for the big show on M-Day. (1963, September 3). The Straits Times, p. 5. Retrieved from NewspaperSG.
3. Ministry of Culture (1963, August 31). Text of speech by the Prime Minister, Mr. Lee Kuan Yew, at Malaysia Solidarity Day Mass Rally and March-past on the Padang on Saturday, August 31, 1963 [Press Statement]. Retrieved November 22, 2013, from National Archives of Singapore website: http://archivesonline.nas.sg/
4. Lee: We are free!. (September 1, 1963). The Straits Times, p. 1. Retrieved from NewspaperSG.
5. Singapore’s claim ‘not valid’. (1963, September 4). The Straits Times, p. 1. Retrieved from NewspaperSG.
6. Lee, K. Y. (2000). The Singapore Story: Memoirs of Lee Kuan Yew (p. 499). Singapore: Times Editions: Singapore Press Holdings. Call no.: RSING 959.57 LEE-[HIS]; A great day for Malaya’s partners. (1963, August 31). The Straits Times, p. 1. Retrieved from NewspaperSG.
7. Sabah, Sarawak get home rule. (1963, September 1). The Straits Times, p. 1; Up goes the flag. (1963, September 17). The Straits Times, p. 1. Retrieved from NewspaperSG.



The information in this article is valid as at 2014 and correct as far as we are able to ascertain from our sources. It is not intended to be an exhaustive or complete history of the subject. Please contact the Library for further reading materials on the topic.






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SINGAPORE — Marine Parade GRC Member of Parliament Seah Kian Peng on Saturday (Sept 1) hit out at historian Thum Ping Tjin for suggesting that Singaporeans should also rejoice on Malaysia's independence day which fell on the previous day.

Earlier this week, Dr Thum, along with political dissident Tan Wah Piow, freelance journalist Kirsten Han, civil rights activist Jolovan Wham and award-winning graphic novelist Sonny Liew, made the headlines, after they held a one hour and 20 minutes meeting with Malaysia Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad in Kuala Lumpur.

Writing on Facebook, Mr Seah said: "It appears quite clear to me that PJ Thum does not wish Singapore well. It is interesting that Kirsten, Jolovan and Sonny should associate themselves with Thum."

On Thursday, Dr Thum posted on Facebook: "Selamat Hari Merdeka to the people of the former Federation of Malaya! (and happy unofficial independence day to the people of Singapore!)"


Separately, Singapore Democratic Party member Teo Soh Lung also commented on a Facebook video by socio-political website The Online Citizen that "Singapore is part of Malaya la”.

Mr Seah said: "Really? This is what PJ Thum and Teo Soh Lung and the SDP believe in their heart of hearts?" He added that Ms Teo's reference to “Malaya”, and not “Malaysia” was "a tip of the hat, I presume, to the name the Communist Party of Malaya (CPM) preferred for the peninsula, including Singapore".

Mr Seah pointed out: "Is it also a coincidence that they had accompanied Tan Wah Piow on this visit to Dr M? Tan was convicted for rioting in 1975 and slipped out of Singapore upon his release from (prison) to avoid National Service. Several of Tan’s comrades from that time subsequently joined the CPM’s radio station, 'Voice of the Malayan Revolution', in Changsha, China."

He reiterated that he was "amazed" that Dr Thum and his supporters should proclaim that Singapore is part of Malaysia or Malaya. "Perhaps that is why he thinks it is permissible to ask its current prime minister to interfere in our affairs," Mr Seah said.

On the group's meeting with Dr Mahathir, Mr Seah noted that Dr Thum invited the Malaysia Prime Minister to "bring democracy to Singapore". "I wonder what deep historical insight prompted him to make this plea, to Dr M, whose views on the Water Agreement with Singapore, and Singapore knowing its place in relation to Malaysia are well known," Mr Seah said.

He added: "Perhaps I should remind PJ Thum that our Constitution requires any change to the sovereignty of Singapore to be approved by two-thirds of all voters in a referendum. This requirement was put in by our founding leaders. As a result of our searing experience in the 23 months when we were part of Malaysia, they knew how important it was to safeguard our independence and sovereignty."

When the constitutional amendment was moved in Parliament, Singapore's first Law Minister E W Barker, who was the author of the Separation Agreement, said that “in the methodology of the destruction of a nation by its foes, war by force of arms is not necessarily the only means employed. The independence of a nation may, by more subtle means, be subverted", Mr Seah noted.

"(Mr Barker) also said: 'The seductive blandishments of foreign agents must not be allowed to succeed.' Quite right and I am sure Singaporeans will agree with that," Mr Seah said.

https://www.todayonline.com/singapo...reans-should-celebrate-malaysias-independence

 

[KuanTi01]

There is always more than than meets the eyes! Mr. Seah is just politicking and taking a cheap swipe at Dr Thum. No one has a monopoly on patriotism. I have no doubt Dr Thum is a patriot as far as Singapore is concerned. Mr Seah is of course a patriot of his PAP!

 

[batman1]

He's a whiter-than-white prima donna hoping to collect some credits to redeem points for promotion.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

He's a whiter-than-white prima donna hoping to collect some credits to redeem points for promotion.

PJ is being attack because the erections are coming and PAP tactics is always to find a bogeyman to make oppos look bad. But PJ is no ordinary pushover,,,i hope he can turn the tables on the pappies,,

A little sad, a bit regretful': Shanmugam on activists' move to engage Mahathir
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02 Sep 2018 03:41PM (Updated: 02 Sep 2018 06:03PM)
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SINGAPORE: Law and Home Affairs Minister K Shanmugam has hit out at the move by a group of activists - led by political dissident Tan Wah Piow and historian Thum Ping Tjin - to engage Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad.
The duo - along with freelance journalist Kirsten Han, civil rights activist Jolovan Wham and graphic novelist Sonny Liew - met Dr Mahathir last Thursday (Aug 30), where they invited him to speak at a democracy conference next year.

On the sidelines of a grassroots event on Sunday (Sep 2), Mr Shanmugam said: “I think the whole conduct is a little sad, a bit regretful. We can have political differences within Singapore - it is the people’s right.
“We should never go out and invite someone foreign, a foreign politician to intervene in our domestic politics. I think that is an absolute no-no.”
READ: Historian Thum Ping Tjin 'does not wish Singapore well', says MP Seah Kian Peng


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A day after his meeting with Dr Mahathir, Dr Thum posted on Facebook saying he had asked the Malaysian leader to take a leading role in promoting democracy and freedom of expression in Southeast Asia.
Mr Shanmugam said: "I think it’s quite clear what that means."
In March, Dr Thum and Mr Shanmugam had crossed swords for six hours at a public hearing held by the Select Committee on Deliberate Online Falsehoods over the academic’s alternative interpretation of historical events such as Operation Coldstore.
Last Thursday's meeting was organised with the help of Malaysian political activist, Hishammuddin Rais, who was present and is also part of Tan’s organisation - Forces for the Renewal of Southeast Asia.
Mr Shanmugam's comments came a day after Marine Parade GRC MP Seah Kian Peng hit out at Dr Thum over his Facebook posts that, in Mr Seah's words, show that the historian "does not wish Singapore well".
Mr Seah questioned Dr Thum's invitation to the Malaysian prime minister to "bring democracy to Singapore".
"I wonder what deep historical insight prompted him to make this plea, to Dr M, whose views on the Water Agreement with Singapore, and Singapore knowing its place in relation to Malaysia are well known," he wrote.



Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...piow-thum-ping-tjin-meeting-mahathir-10676820

 

[Hypocrite-The]

SINGAPORE — Marine Parade GRC Member of Parliament Seah Kian Peng on Saturday (Sept 1) hit out at historian Thum Ping Tjin for suggesting that Singaporeans should also rejoice on Malaysia's independence day which fell on the previous day.

Earlier this week, Dr Thum, along with political dissident Tan Wah Piow, freelance journalist Kirsten Han, civil rights activist Jolovan Wham and award-winning graphic novelist Sonny Liew, made the headlines, after they held a one hour and 20 minutes meeting with Malaysia Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad in Kuala Lumpur.

Writing on Facebook, Mr Seah said: "It appears quite clear to me that PJ Thum does not wish Singapore well. It is interesting that Kirsten, Jolovan and Sonny should associate themselves with Thum."

On Thursday, Dr Thum posted on Facebook: "Selamat Hari Merdeka to the people of the former Federation of Malaya! (and happy unofficial independence day to the people of Singapore!)"


Separately, Singapore Democratic Party member Teo Soh Lung also commented on a Facebook video by socio-political website The Online Citizen that "Singapore is part of Malaya la”.

Mr Seah said: "Really? This is what PJ Thum and Teo Soh Lung and the SDP believe in their heart of hearts?" He added that Ms Teo's reference to “Malaya”, and not “Malaysia” was "a tip of the hat, I presume, to the name the Communist Party of Malaya (CPM) preferred for the peninsula, including Singapore".

Mr Seah pointed out: "Is it also a coincidence that they had accompanied Tan Wah Piow on this visit to Dr M? Tan was convicted for rioting in 1975 and slipped out of Singapore upon his release from (prison) to avoid National Service. Several of Tan’s comrades from that time subsequently joined the CPM’s radio station, 'Voice of the Malayan Revolution', in Changsha, China."

He reiterated that he was "amazed" that Dr Thum and his supporters should proclaim that Singapore is part of Malaysia or Malaya. "Perhaps that is why he thinks it is permissible to ask its current prime minister to interfere in our affairs," Mr Seah said.

On the group's meeting with Dr Mahathir, Mr Seah noted that Dr Thum invited the Malaysia Prime Minister to "bring democracy to Singapore". "I wonder what deep historical insight prompted him to make this plea, to Dr M, whose views on the Water Agreement with Singapore, and Singapore knowing its place in relation to Malaysia are well known," Mr Seah said.

He added: "Perhaps I should remind PJ Thum that our Constitution requires any change to the sovereignty of Singapore to be approved by two-thirds of all voters in a referendum. This requirement was put in by our founding leaders. As a result of our searing experience in the 23 months when we were part of Malaysia, they knew how important it was to safeguard our independence and sovereignty."

When the constitutional amendment was moved in Parliament, Singapore's first Law Minister E W Barker, who was the author of the Separation Agreement, said that “in the methodology of the destruction of a nation by its foes, war by force of arms is not necessarily the only means employed. The independence of a nation may, by more subtle means, be subverted", Mr Seah noted.

"(Mr Barker) also said: 'The seductive blandishments of foreign agents must not be allowed to succeed.' Quite right and I am sure Singaporeans will agree with that," Mr Seah said.

https://www.todayonline.com/singapo...reans-should-celebrate-malaysias-independence

AH Tham does not wish PAP well,...only the pap will see itself the same as singapore. As in the pap is singapore which is total BS. From such attacks and actions by the pappies, it is obvious that PAP is still using its old tactics of claiming to be singapore and than attacking pap is attacking singapore,,,I hope people wake up to such nonsense....

 

[virus]

KNN.... ah neh torn and rip sinkie flag off snake chest, this neh really KNN, siamz to thailand and lombok his cock never speak a single word about regreting how a DBS top management behave and not knowing which side his roti is buttered. fark u lah.... dont act patriotic with cheap shots.