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Serious PAP Ex-General George Admits That He's Pro-Chink! Lucky Now Not 1960s! Sure Lim Kopi With ISD!

JohnTan

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SINGAPORE — Leaders of both the United States and China may not want war, but they are often pulled by mass public emotions, which could result in a conflict that would be “cataclysmic” for the whole world, former foreign affairs minister George Yeo said.

The visiting scholar at the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy of the National University of Singapore said there is a misperception that China is a tiger that will “leap at you and eat you up”, when the reality is that its nature is that of a panda.

"But China has got to signal that its nature is not that of a tiger, but a panda," he added.

Since he left public office in 2011, Mr Yeo has spoken and written extensively on China.

In his analogy, which the 67-year-old gave during an interview with TODAY on Monday (Aug 22), he said that the panda may look cute, but “you don’t fool around with it. You can be badly mauled”.

Mr Yeo, who accepted that he is seen as being pro-Beijing by some, was giving an interview to coincide with the launch of his book, titled George Yeo: Musings, which is based on interviews with veteran media practitioner Woon Tai Ho and is intended to be the first of three books.

Aside from his last post as Singapore's foreign affairs minister, Mr Yeo has also been minister for health, trade and industry, and information and the arts at various points of his 23-year career. He left office when the watershed 2011 General Election (GE) cut short his political career.

Mr Yeo, who was based in Hong Kong for several years as chairman and executive director of Kerry Logistics Network before he retired in 2019, said on Monday that China is an old civilisation with very conservative instincts that makes it predictable.

Every Chinese dynasty, he said, has built walls, and it continues to do so in the capital market, for Hollywood movies and even games.

“Why do they do that? Why don’t they open up? They like their homogeneity, this makes it easier to govern.”

But with tensions between the two superpowers rising after US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi visited Taiwan on Aug 2, he said that both sides are now planning for war.

“China, for sure, doesn’t wish it, but in the US, there are people who think that war is inevitable… And if it is inevitable, better to have it earlier than later, when China is not as strong.''

China, for sure, doesn’t wish it, but in the US, there are people who think that war is inevitable…And if it is inevitable, better to have it earlier than later, when China is not as strong.

Former Cabinet minister George Yeo on the prospect of war between China and the United States

Mr Yeo said studies have been done, which indicated that if a war is held sooner rather than later, China will be badly bloodied, while the US will be hurt.

However, if it is held 10 years from now, both sides will be badly bloodied.

“The point is, the longer you wait, the greater China’s relative strength is,” he added.

When asked when he foresaw war between the two nations breaking out, Mr Yeo said that history is full of surprises and that war “doesn't happen in the way we think it would, by cold analysis”.

This is because the actors do not act on the basis of analysis alone, but rather, are “driven by mass passions” and accidents can happen.



When TODAY pointed out that some younger Chinese Singaporeans may identify themselves more strongly with their nationality than ethnicity, Mr Yeo said: “In Singapore, you can say that.

“If you’re a Singaporean Chinese in America, you will feel much more strongly in your Chinese-ness because others see you in your Chinese-ness, and you can’t escape it.”

Mr Yeo was also asked about a video clip he shared in early March this year on his Facebook page by Fox News host Tucker Carlson about claims that the US was funding biological programmes in Ukraine.

In his caption for the post, he merely wrote: “From an unexpected quarter”, which drew criticisms from several segments of the online community since the video clip had been already been found to be false.

Mr Yeo clarified that he was not saying that he agreed with the video’s message, but that he simply found it fascinating because Mr Carlson, “who is normally very anti-China, took China’s side”.

When probed if what Mr Yeo has been saying about China, combined with his posts about the country on social media, might be seen by some as “pro-China”, Mr Yeo did not disagree.

“Well, I accept that. But I hope those people will read my book, and the coming two ones, and then have an overall evaluation of who I am.”

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/george-yeo-accepts-pro-bejing-label-1975616
 

eatshitndie

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what this naive self-proclaimed sexpert on china doesn’t understand is that china is no longer the china of old with its long, rich yet tragic history of glory and gloom. prc now is not china. it’s run by a bunch of commies who worship a flawed european ideology of good intentions but disastrous execution and consequences. ccp ideology contradicts and is in conflict with confucian beliefs and doctrines which dominated chinese history for at least 3.69k years (minus the mongol and manchu centuries of reign), and the confucian way is an old, tried and weak methology (good for suppressing youth and domestic affairs yet lousy at facing foreign threats) but never the perfect system for china. ccp rewrites china’s history and confuses and co-opts confucian ideology into ccp ideology for their own corrupt agenda and control. anybody who thinks that china today is run by chinese with a full understanding of 5k years of chinese history is a moron. and anybody who also believes that russia is no longer a commie cuntry is an absolute moron. both russia and china today are run by the marxist-leninist-stalinist cabal - a system that sexterminates its people rather than serves them.
 
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laksaboy

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I still maintain that the CCP has bribed or blackmailed him. Probably since long ago, back when he was still with the MFA or in Aljunied GRC.

Compromising minnows like him is easy peasy, US senators have also been compromised.
 

LordElrond

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what this naive self-proclaimed sexpert on china doesn’t understand is that china is no longer the china of old with its long, rich yet tragic history of glory and gloom. prc now is not china. it’s run by a bunch of commies who worship a flawed european ideology of good intentions but disastrous execution and consequences. ccp ideology contradicts and is in conflict with confucian beliefs and doctrines which dominated chinese history for at least 3.69k years (minus the mongol and manchu centuries of reign), and the confucian way is an old, tried and weak methology (good for suppressing youth and domestic affairs yet lousy at facing foreign threats) but never the perfect system for china. ccp rewrites china’s history and confuses and co-opts confucian ideology into ccp ideology for their own agenda and control. anybody who thinks that china today is run by chinese with a full understanding of 5k years of chinese history is a moron. and anybody who also believes that russia is no longer a commie cuntry is an absolute moron. both russia and china today are run by the marxist-leninist-stalinist cabal - a system that sexterminates its people rather than serves them.
What you don’t understand is you gave your life to pursue the American dream and landed in a pile of rubbish.
 

glockman

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SINGAPORE — Leaders of both the United States and China may not want war, but they are often pulled by mass public emotions, which could result in a conflict that would be “cataclysmic” for the whole world, former foreign affairs minister George Yeo said.

The visiting scholar at the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy of the National University of Singapore said there is a misperception that China is a tiger that will “leap at you and eat you up”, when the reality is that its nature is that of a panda.

"But China has got to signal that its nature is not that of a tiger, but a panda," he added.

Since he left public office in 2011, Mr Yeo has spoken and written extensively on China.

In his analogy, which the 67-year-old gave during an interview with TODAY on Monday (Aug 22), he said that the panda may look cute, but “you don’t fool around with it. You can be badly mauled”.

Mr Yeo, who accepted that he is seen as being pro-Beijing by some, was giving an interview to coincide with the launch of his book, titled George Yeo: Musings, which is based on interviews with veteran media practitioner Woon Tai Ho and is intended to be the first of three books.

Aside from his last post as Singapore's foreign affairs minister, Mr Yeo has also been minister for health, trade and industry, and information and the arts at various points of his 23-year career. He left office when the watershed 2011 General Election (GE) cut short his political career.

Mr Yeo, who was based in Hong Kong for several years as chairman and executive director of Kerry Logistics Network before he retired in 2019, said on Monday that China is an old civilisation with very conservative instincts that makes it predictable.

Every Chinese dynasty, he said, has built walls, and it continues to do so in the capital market, for Hollywood movies and even games.

“Why do they do that? Why don’t they open up? They like their homogeneity, this makes it easier to govern.”

But with tensions between the two superpowers rising after US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi visited Taiwan on Aug 2, he said that both sides are now planning for war.

“China, for sure, doesn’t wish it, but in the US, there are people who think that war is inevitable… And if it is inevitable, better to have it earlier than later, when China is not as strong.''

China, for sure, doesn’t wish it, but in the US, there are people who think that war is inevitable…And if it is inevitable, better to have it earlier than later, when China is not as strong.

Former Cabinet minister George Yeo on the prospect of war between China and the United States

Mr Yeo said studies have been done, which indicated that if a war is held sooner rather than later, China will be badly bloodied, while the US will be hurt.

However, if it is held 10 years from now, both sides will be badly bloodied.

“The point is, the longer you wait, the greater China’s relative strength is,” he added.

When asked when he foresaw war between the two nations breaking out, Mr Yeo said that history is full of surprises and that war “doesn't happen in the way we think it would, by cold analysis”.

This is because the actors do not act on the basis of analysis alone, but rather, are “driven by mass passions” and accidents can happen.



When TODAY pointed out that some younger Chinese Singaporeans may identify themselves more strongly with their nationality than ethnicity, Mr Yeo said: “In Singapore, you can say that.

“If you’re a Singaporean Chinese in America, you will feel much more strongly in your Chinese-ness because others see you in your Chinese-ness, and you can’t escape it.”

Mr Yeo was also asked about a video clip he shared in early March this year on his Facebook page by Fox News host Tucker Carlson about claims that the US was funding biological programmes in Ukraine.

In his caption for the post, he merely wrote: “From an unexpected quarter”, which drew criticisms from several segments of the online community since the video clip had been already been found to be false.

Mr Yeo clarified that he was not saying that he agreed with the video’s message, but that he simply found it fascinating because Mr Carlson, “who is normally very anti-China, took China’s side”.

When probed if what Mr Yeo has been saying about China, combined with his posts about the country on social media, might be seen by some as “pro-China”, Mr Yeo did not disagree.

“Well, I accept that.
But I hope those people will read my book, and the coming two ones, and then have an overall evaluation of who I am.”

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/george-yeo-accepts-pro-bejing-label-1975616
Aiyo, Georgie boy has turned to the dark side, harping on an outdated and romanticised notion of China. China is neither a tiger nor a panda, it's a rabid dog going around threatening it's neighbours and seeking to usurp their land. These countries all kena :

The Philippines, Vietnam, Japan, Nepal, Bhutan, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Laos, South Korea
https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/world-news/china/955728/all-countries-china-territory-disputes

Through their sinister debt-trap diplomacy, they have enslaved these countries:
Djibouti, Maldives, Angola, Suriname, Congo, Kyrgyzstan, Samoa, Laos, Zambia, Ethiopia, Sudan, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, and a few more.

Time to cull this rabid CCP dog, it's a menace to the world.

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mudhatter

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Aiyo, Georgie boy has turned to the dark side, harping on an outdated and romanticised notion of China. China is neither a tiger nor a panda, it's a rabid dog going around threatening it's neighbours and seeking to usurp their land. These countries all kena :

The Philippines, Vietnam, Japan, Nepal, Bhutan, India, Indonesia, Malaysia, Laos, South Korea
https://www.theweek.co.uk/news/world-news/china/955728/all-countries-china-territory-disputes

Through their sinister debt-trap diplomacy, they have enslaved these countries:
Djibouti, Maldives, Angola, Suriname, Congo, Kyrgyzstan, Samoa, Laos, Zambia, Ethiopia, Sudan, Sri Lanka, Pakistan, and a few more.

Time to cull this rabid CCP dog, it's a menace to the world.

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can't agree entirely with you. can't disagree entirely either.

more like 65-35. 65% agreement, 35% disagreement.

Tiongs haven't "fixed" CECA yet, it remains the world's only country/political unit that has failed to crush, obliterate, decimate obliterate a smaller CECA country, in the entire history of humanity such an ignominy has not befallen any country.

moreover despite too much hype by some teeny tiny or backward (or both) countries regarding tiongkok shipbuilding we see that it might take them another 69 years or more to match, forget abt surpassing, combined tonnage of surface warships of all yankee allies/vassal states. This is the essence of the incredible chhhhhyyyyyyynnnnaaaaa speeeed, to think that an infamous money laundering hub, tax evasion hub, human trafficking hub like stinkypura could launch a single vessel of 273k tonnes at one go, launching the world's largest SSCV ever while it's not even a real country (it's more like Hong Kong. as Hong Kong is meant to be squarely a tiong city within Guangdong province, so stinkypura must be a Malaysian city within the state of Johor, and no more than that).

by right, tiongs should have launched 273k X 240 = 65 million+ tonnes of warship at one go.

What a lousy country, they can't even surpass a teeny tiny lousy coolie gene peasantpore stinkypura in shipbuilding per capita while stinkypura remains, and has been for some time, an infamous money laundering tax evasion and human trafficking hub as a one party state with 160th ranked media and an autocratic regime led by a eunuch under the lee dynasty.




as for debt trap and such, not yet convinced.

in case of siri lanky, it's found 90% of siri lanky debt comes from elsewhere?

but one thing is for sure.

neither of tiongs russkies or iran norkies cuba or venezuela can develop their countries.

let's say russkies and tiongs are the two strongest most powerful of these two countries, they were thrown two bones by yanks. in the form of UNSC permanent membership, and like loyal poodles, they lapped them up. they don't dare to invalidate UN as a centre of international dispute resolution or enforcement of any other matters of international concern.

this tells you who is their master.

UN is based in New York. the yanks threw some bones at their loyal pet dogs called russkies and tiongs.

like loyal pets, russkies and tiongs may huff and puff when hungry but whenever yanks throw some bones their way in the form of UNSC permanent membership, like loyal dogs they return back to their master waving their tails.

worthless UN should have been disbanded decades ago and gone the same route as league of nations. utterly useless and wasteful.

only idiotic low IQ turd world sh*tholes with inability to develop their country in record 3 decades time (not a nanosecond longer) are awestruck by tiong sh*thole.

they hype up every thing in tiongkok but reality is nothing like their propaganda.

this is their much hyped shenzhen city next to hong kong (another chink sh*thole, btw).

this is the reality of their overhyped shenzhen they never showed you



a trip through the backalleys of shenzhen

their posterboy for rapid development within 30 years or so they say.

reality is of coz different from tiong propaganda.

as I've said before, it's the biggest failure in human history
 

maxsanic

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SINGAPORE — Leaders of both the United States and China may not want war, but they are often pulled by mass public emotions, which could result in a conflict that would be “cataclysmic” for the whole world, former foreign affairs minister George Yeo said.

The visiting scholar at the Lee Kuan Yew School of Public Policy of the National University of Singapore said there is a misperception that China is a tiger that will “leap at you and eat you up”, when the reality is that its nature is that of a panda.

"But China has got to signal that its nature is not that of a tiger, but a panda," he added.

Since he left public office in 2011, Mr Yeo has spoken and written extensively on China.

In his analogy, which the 67-year-old gave during an interview with TODAY on Monday (Aug 22), he said that the panda may look cute, but “you don’t fool around with it. You can be badly mauled”.

Mr Yeo, who accepted that he is seen as being pro-Beijing by some, was giving an interview to coincide with the launch of his book, titled George Yeo: Musings, which is based on interviews with veteran media practitioner Woon Tai Ho and is intended to be the first of three books.

Aside from his last post as Singapore's foreign affairs minister, Mr Yeo has also been minister for health, trade and industry, and information and the arts at various points of his 23-year career. He left office when the watershed 2011 General Election (GE) cut short his political career.

Mr Yeo, who was based in Hong Kong for several years as chairman and executive director of Kerry Logistics Network before he retired in 2019, said on Monday that China is an old civilisation with very conservative instincts that makes it predictable.

Every Chinese dynasty, he said, has built walls, and it continues to do so in the capital market, for Hollywood movies and even games.

“Why do they do that? Why don’t they open up? They like their homogeneity, this makes it easier to govern.”

But with tensions between the two superpowers rising after US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi visited Taiwan on Aug 2, he said that both sides are now planning for war.

“China, for sure, doesn’t wish it, but in the US, there are people who think that war is inevitable… And if it is inevitable, better to have it earlier than later, when China is not as strong.''

China, for sure, doesn’t wish it, but in the US, there are people who think that war is inevitable…And if it is inevitable, better to have it earlier than later, when China is not as strong.

Former Cabinet minister George Yeo on the prospect of war between China and the United States

Mr Yeo said studies have been done, which indicated that if a war is held sooner rather than later, China will be badly bloodied, while the US will be hurt.

However, if it is held 10 years from now, both sides will be badly bloodied.

“The point is, the longer you wait, the greater China’s relative strength is,” he added.

When asked when he foresaw war between the two nations breaking out, Mr Yeo said that history is full of surprises and that war “doesn't happen in the way we think it would, by cold analysis”.

This is because the actors do not act on the basis of analysis alone, but rather, are “driven by mass passions” and accidents can happen.



When TODAY pointed out that some younger Chinese Singaporeans may identify themselves more strongly with their nationality than ethnicity, Mr Yeo said: “In Singapore, you can say that.

“If you’re a Singaporean Chinese in America, you will feel much more strongly in your Chinese-ness because others see you in your Chinese-ness, and you can’t escape it.”

Mr Yeo was also asked about a video clip he shared in early March this year on his Facebook page by Fox News host Tucker Carlson about claims that the US was funding biological programmes in Ukraine.

In his caption for the post, he merely wrote: “From an unexpected quarter”, which drew criticisms from several segments of the online community since the video clip had been already been found to be false.

Mr Yeo clarified that he was not saying that he agreed with the video’s message, but that he simply found it fascinating because Mr Carlson, “who is normally very anti-China, took China’s side”.

When probed if what Mr Yeo has been saying about China, combined with his posts about the country on social media, might be seen by some as “pro-China”, Mr Yeo did not disagree.

“Well, I accept that.
But I hope those people will read my book, and the coming two ones, and then have an overall evaluation of who I am.”

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/george-yeo-accepts-pro-bejing-label-1975616

I think Singaporeans need to move away from this pro-China vs pro-US mindset, this is a very Toys R' Us mentality and serves as nothing more than an emotional declaration.

The correct way to see the whole G2 rivalry is to see pro-XX as an outcome rather than an emotional belonging. You can be pro-China because you believe China is the future way forward and it is in Singapore's best interest to align with China. Similarly you can also go US if you believe whatever setbacks facing US is temporary and it will soon correct itself. If the answer is I don't know, trying to delay answering the question is also an option.

But the important thing is whatever the pro-XX stance is it should be predicated on the basis of benefiting Singapore first, not because of some faith like insistence like a religion.
 
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mojito

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Ooohh....another factor in why he was ousted. He is pro beijing and we know lhl doesn't like that.
Was Georgie a sinophile when he lost his seat to the Singh? So pro China he signed a comprehensive deal with India? U obviously have the timeline mixed up. :cautious:
 

mojito

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I think Singaporeans need to move away from this pro-China vs pro-US mindset, this is a very Toys R' Us mentality and serves as nothing more than an emotional declaration.

The correct way to see the whole G2 rivalry is to see pro-XX as an outcome rather than an emotional belonging. You can be pro-China because you believe China is the future way forward and it is in Singapore's best interest to align with China. Similarly you can also go US if you believe whatever setbacks facing US is temporary and it will soon correct itself. If the answer is I don't know, trying to delay answering the question is also an option.

But the important thing is whatever the pro-XX stance is it should be predicated on the basis of benefiting Singapore first, not because of some faith like insistence like a religion.
Distancing from the two powers is probably the best option for now. And Looong has signaled that intention. :thumbsup:
 

Loofydralb

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Was Georgie a sinophile when he lost his seat to the Singh? So pro China he signed a comprehensive deal with India? U obviously have the timeline mixed up. :cautious:
Not necessarily pro china = anti India.

You conflate the two.

CECA was another factor for his ouster. They realized their folly and threw Georgie under the bus.

There is another factor though
 
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