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Chitchat Oppie Low Admits That He Was Irresponsible! Getting Ready To Pay Back $33M To Aljunied Voters! Return Us Our Bloodsweat Money!

JohnTan

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SINGAPORE: The former secretary-general of the Workers’ Party (WP) Low Thia Khiang acknowledged on Tuesday (Oct 16) that he did not check the contract with Aljunied-Hougang Town Council’s (AHTC) previous managing agent, CPG Facilities Management, before releasing the company from its obligations.

This emerged as Mr Low took the witness stand for the first time, when he was questioned over the decision to replace CPG with new managing agent FM Solutions and Services (FMSS) and what had happened when CPG indicated it wanted to end its services.

During the cross-examination, lawyer Davinder Singh asked whether a "responsible town councillor" would check the situation before deciding whether to release the other party.

“Was it the responsible thing to do to check whether CPG was entitled to get out?” Mr Singh asked.

“That was not on my mind,” said Mr Low.

“I’m asking you now. Was it the responsible thing to do?”


“Yes,” Mr Low responded.

“Thank you. And you didn’t do that, yes?”

“Yes,” Mr Low replied.

When Mr Singh suggested that the lack of checks gave Mr Low the opportunity to bring in FMSS as the new managing agent, the WP Member of Parliament disagreed.

Mr Low said foremost on his mind was how to protect residents’ interests because if the town was not managed properly and services were not provided, residents’ lives would be affected.

Earlier, Mr Singh suggested that an “honest” town council member would have done his or her due diligence to review existing contracts between Aljunied Town Council and its existing managing agent as well as the computer software vendor - Action Information Management (AIM) - before deciding to replace them with someone else.

Mr Low noted that he had reviewed the CPG contract but did not recall when he did so, despite much prompting from the lawyer.

Mr Singh then asked Mr Low if he had sought a copy of the contracts to review them personally or had asked for a briefing on the contracts, to which the WP MP said he did not.

Mr Low followed up by asking: "You want to know the reason why I didn't check?"

"I’ll ask you the questions. You give me the answers," the lawyer said.

Mr Low is being sued along with seven other defendants for an alleged breach of fiduciary duties, as well as “improper” payments amounting to S$33 million. These were allegedly paid by AHTC to FMSS and other third parties between May 2011 and November 2015.

Mr Singh is the lead lawyer for Pasir Ris-Punggol Town Council (PRPTC), which is suing in relation to past payments pertaining to Punggol East Town Council. Punggol East was previously managed by the WP after it won the single-member constituency in a by-election in 2013.


The WP MP was grilled on whether he decided to do away with CPG even before it indicated its desire to terminate the contract.

Mr Low said there was a meeting on May 30 with CPG, during which the company said it did not want to continue as AHTC’s managing agent.

In his cross-examination, Mr Singh focused on an email on May 9 sent by Mr Low to the other defendants – MPs Sylvia Lim, Pritam Singh and How Weng Fan from FMSS – as well as other WP town councillors Chen Show Mao and Faishal Manap and then-Hougang SMC MP Yaw Shin Leong.

The Drew & Napier lawyer highlighted one point in the email which said: “We will appoint managing agent to manage the town instead of self-management.”

He suggested that the way the sentence was phrased - “we will”, which connotes an action to be done - indicated that Mr Low and his team already had another managing agent in mind on May 9, the first working day after winning Aljunied GRC in the 2011 General Election.

“Whether one is good in English or not, if you already have a MA (managing agent) appointed, you do not say we will appoint CPG; you don’t use those words,” Mr Singh said.

Mr Low said it was “not true” that there was a decision at that point to axe CPG, and the plan for the town councilors to take over management of the constituency earlier was a contingency in case CPG did not perform.

When Mr Singh asked when and if CPG was informed that it was being replaced, Mr Low said they had a meeting on May 30 when CPG said it did not want to continue. He added that he didn’t think CPG was told they were being replaced.

Mr Singh asked why CPG wasn’t informed and Mr Low responded: “Why should I tell them.”

“But you just told me that if you were going to replace them, you would tell them?”

“Yes, but it wasn’t a question of replacement; they wanted out,” said Mr Low.

“But wasn’t CPG replaced?” said the lawyer. “Right, the contingency happened. So they were substituted by another. Someone else came in place of CPG.”

Said Mr Low: “I don’t know the meaning of substitute. They wanted out, so we did a mutual release. We released them, then we appointed a new MA.”


Mr Singh said the elected WP members chose to remove CPG - an experienced agent with proven ability to manage the town - “at all costs” despite knowing that the move from managing a town with 10,000 residents (Hougang SMC) to one with 40,000 residents will be a “herculean task”.

“To do that, you compromised and subordinated the residents’ interest,” the lawyer said. “The residents would have expected you to watch their money, to make sure that you act lawfully, act prudently and manage the transition well.

“You don’t cut off an experienced, longstanding MA without proper due diligence and consideration. But none of that mattered to you and the (other) defendants.”

“That’s not true,” Mr Low replied.

“You’ve come to this court to talk about politics. Instead, what you were doing was putting politics above the residents,” Mr Singh carried on.

“That’s not true,” Mr Low said.

The trial will continue on Wednesday with Mr Low again taking to the witness stand.


Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/new...ng-checks-on-managing-agent-contract-10832950
 

winnipegjets

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WP really needs to be shot for allowing themselves to fail soo miserably in running the town council.

Do you believe the trump up charges made by the PAP?

The town council was doing just fine until the PAP create a ruckus. WP town council was that efficient that they even turned down a grant ...the PAP insisted that they take the grant (it would look bad on the PAP town councils when the WP can manage so well).

The external auditors did NOT find anything wrong ...they offered an opinion on how things should be done but found no wrong doing.

The removal of elected WP MPs from town council is a coup and sadly, most sinkees don't see that. They keep taking the lies spewed out on TV and newspaper.
 

AhMeng

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Do you believe the trump up charges made by the PAP?

The town council was doing just fine until the PAP create a ruckus. WP town council was that efficient that they even turned down a grant ...the PAP insisted that they take the grant (it would look bad on the PAP town councils when the WP can manage so well).

The external auditors did NOT find anything wrong ...they offered an opinion on how things should be done but found no wrong doing.

The removal of elected WP MPs from town council is a coup and sadly, most sinkees don't see that. They keep taking the lies spewed out on TV and newspaper.
Nothing you or anyone can do. The cancerous cells of mother nature shall be the best revenge against these MIWs and their dogs.
 

winnipegjets

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Nothing you or anyone can do. The cancerous cells of mother nature shall be the best revenge against these MIWs and their dogs.

I wish Chee Soon Juan would just blow himself up to make a point. And if his actions kills a ministar, better still. He will be rewarded with 72 virgins.
 

maxsanic

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From this saga, it seems to me WP lacks people with senior leadership experience and competency in managing large scale operations in a sizable organization like a MNC or one of the large public organizations. Running a large complicated setup like AHTC requires someone who knows how to design multi-functional and multi-stage policies and processes and get it implemented in an efficient manner.

All the WP MPs and party leaders are all either individual contributing professionals or small time businessmen who probably lack the skillsets needed to run the AHTC.

1) Low Thia Kiang - Small-time Businessman
2) Sylvia Lim - Lecturer
3) Pritam Singh - Laywer
4) Faisal - Counseller
5) Gerald - Small-time Businessman
6) Li Lian - Insurance Trainer
7) Dennis Tan - Lawyer
8) Daniel Goh - Academic
9) Leon Perrera - Small-time Businessman
10) Png Eng Huat - Small-time Businessman
11) Chen Show Mow - Lawyer
12) John Yam - Academic
13) Firuz Khan - Small-time Businessman

I am also extremely doubtful that AHTC can get anyone with such experience to join them given the political environment here. There were some really basic operational errors that should have been easily picked up by anyone who has some experience running a department before. E.g. include duplicate entries in Excel, financial entries not logged, reporting not standardized etc. These are hallmarks of the clerical administrators not being properly trained with proper standard operational procedures.
 

Robert Half

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From this saga, it seems to me WP lacks people with senior leadership experience and competency in managing large scale operations in a sizable organization like a MNC or one of the large public organizations. Running a large complicated setup like AHTC requires someone who knows how to design multi-functional and multi-stage policies and processes and get it implemented in an efficient manner.

All the WP MPs and party leaders are all either individual contributing professionals or small time businessmen who probably lack the skillsets needed to run the AHTC.

1) Low Thia Kiang - Small-time Businessman
2) Sylvia Lim - Lecturer
3) Pritam Singh - Laywer
4) Faisal - Counseller
5) Gerald - Small-time Businessman
6) Li Lian - Insurance Trainer
7) Dennis Tan - Lawyer
8) Daniel Goh - Academic
9) Leon Perrera - Small-time Businessman
10) Png Eng Huat - Small-time Businessman
11) Chen Show Mow - Lawyer
12) John Yam - Academic
13) Firuz Khan - Small-time Businessman

I am also extremely doubtful that AHTC can get anyone with such experience to join them given the political environment here. There were some really basic operational errors that should have been easily picked up by anyone who has some experience running a department before. E.g. include duplicate entries in Excel, financial entries not logged, reporting not standardized etc. These are hallmarks of the clerical administrators not being properly trained with proper standard operational procedures.

The next generation of WP MPs can learn good from this experience & be prepared to take on bigger challenges in the future.
 

Hypocrite-The

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Running an opposition party & large scale town council are not easy.

Yes they may made some wrong decisions & we believe that they are innocent :smile:
They are just estate managers..n they could run the council directly instead of appointing agents who just want a cut of everything. N the amount paid to this WP Agent is ridiculous. To think wp would be so negligent n allowing themselves to get into this sort of trouble just shows how incompetent n corrupt they are. Teochews are cheap skates..but guess no need to be cheap when it's others money
 

Robert Half

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They are just estate managers..n they could run the council directly instead of appointing agents who just want a cut of everything. N the amount paid to this WP Agent is ridiculous. To think wp would be so negligent n allowing themselves to get into this sort of trouble just shows how incompetent n corrupt they are. Teochews are cheap skates..but guess no need to be cheap when it's others money

You are not in their positions & if you are ... likely you will did the same as them.

Teochew nangs are still the most capable people in Sinkieland if not for them there will be no pioneer generation package, silver support scheme, GST vouchers & many more other good things :smile:
 

Hypocrite-The

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You are not in their positions & if you are ... likely you will did the same as them.

Teochew nangs are still the most capable people in Sinkieland if not for them there will be no pioneer generation package, silver support scheme, GST vouchers & many more other good things :smile:
Yes.i am in no position to say anything.n now WP served them selves to the pap on a silver platter...they got themselves into this predicament n have only themselves to blame
 

Kopi0Kosong

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[Quote “We will appoint managing agent to manage the town instead of self-management.”
He suggested that the way the sentence was phrased - “we will”, which connotes an action to be done - indicated that Mr Low and his team already had another managing agent in mind on May 9, the first working day after winning Aljunied GRC in the 2011 General Election.
end Quote]


The statement clearly stated 'decision to appoint a MANAGING AGENT instead of SELF-MANAGEMENT.'
There was NO indication to appoint
'ANOTHER' managing agent as insinuated by the prosecuting lawyer.[/quote]
 
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shittypore

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Get elected and the next 4 yrs collect MP allowance, not bad huh! 5 of em still need a agent to run/manage their town council. All 5 must be running around like a blue arse fly and not realising the agent was having a field day with the Resident's Funds.
 

winnipegjets

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From this saga, it seems to me WP lacks people with senior leadership experience and competency in managing large scale operations in a sizable organization like a MNC or one of the large public organizations. Running a large complicated setup like AHTC requires someone who knows how to design multi-functional and multi-stage policies and processes and get it implemented in an efficient manner.

All the WP MPs and party leaders are all either individual contributing professionals or small time businessmen who probably lack the skillsets needed to run the AHTC.

1) Low Thia Kiang - Small-time Businessman
2) Sylvia Lim - Lecturer
3) Pritam Singh - Laywer
4) Faisal - Counseller
5) Gerald - Small-time Businessman
6) Li Lian - Insurance Trainer
7) Dennis Tan - Lawyer
8) Daniel Goh - Academic
9) Leon Perrera - Small-time Businessman
10) Png Eng Huat - Small-time Businessman
11) Chen Show Mow - Lawyer
12) John Yam - Academic
13) Firuz Khan - Small-time Businessman

I am also extremely doubtful that AHTC can get anyone with such experience to join them given the political environment here. There were some really basic operational errors that should have been easily picked up by anyone who has some experience running a department before. E.g. include duplicate entries in Excel, financial entries not logged, reporting not standardized etc. These are hallmarks of the clerical administrators not being properly trained with proper standard operational procedures.

The PAP run town councils are equally bad if not worse, just that their flaws are covered up. At least the WP delivered on the services to the residents at a lower cost than PAP precincts.
The PAP has an e- EY associate as an MP. What crap does she know in running a town council?
 

halsey02

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Earlier, Mr Singh suggested that an “honest” town council member would have done his or her due diligence

If Low was smart, he would challenge the notion of 'honest'.

The PAP is always honest...they are gods, all gods are honest...all oppositions, are charlatans, vile & liars.
 

Kopi0Kosong

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The PAP is always honest...they are gods, all gods are honest...all oppositions, are charlatans, vile & liars.

PAP LEEders are GODs? They can live forever?
If what you preached were true, then the godLEE LKY is still living and enjoying life in Singapore.
There is no hiding the truth. PAP LEEders are also human...they lie and cheat shamelessLEE and dishonestLEE.
 
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