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Chitchat opinion about secure software development

mikeyboy

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Hi there,

I’m good with most of the programming languages. I’m here to get an expert advice to know whether I need to go for software development or secure software development (http://nci.ca/cyber-security/training/secure-software-development). One of my friends suggested me to go for secure development. I don’t know more about the future opportunities and pay scale for these. I don’t want to waste more than 3 months. Advise me the best course for my future.

Thanks.
 
my 3 cents worth is that go for the masses, direct at masses. dun waste time going for infrastructure and deep computing kind of work, i reckon too much competition. just compare a pc techie and a system.network engineer. if you get what i mean, i see there is more demand solving problems for users rather than attending to servers.
 
I doubt you can make a living developing software in Spore. The companies that are paying $$$ are in the US.

Programing is not easy & you just don't pick it up overnight. If you are doing computer science at the university level you would have many sleepless night meeting dead lines, doing courses in maths, statistics, .....
 
shouldnt u be asking this on a tech forum with shitskins?go for a course on how to make apps on android,make some stupid game app and sell for $1.99,get 5 thousand downloads and u will be rich.if u come up with a blockbuster idea like minecraft let me know,i want to invest with u.
 
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I doubt you can make a living developing software in Spore. The companies that are paying $$$ are in the US.

Programing is not easy & you just don't pick it up overnight. If you are doing computer science at the university level you would have many sleepless night meeting dead lines, doing courses in maths, statistics, .....

but little bro mikey alrdy said he has experience in programming, who knows tht he may be the next mark suckerberg.:D
 
but little bro mikey alrdy said he has experience in programming, who knows tht he may be the next mark suckerberg.:D

I doubt he is familiar with the work environment in Spore. Some companies do have in-house programmers but they only hire people with a degree & experience. For maintenance of their larger systems like database, they usually contract out to some indian company. The company I was with had a few angmo programers who were very good. For the maintenance of the db they were using Wipro. No idea if wipro programers are any good?

The company I was with was a large US MNC with world wide operations. May not be reflective of the typical small Spore company, but if you want to earn the big bucks you should be preparing yourself for jobs with the big companies.

I had some free time in my younger years & did an Informatics Diploma course in computing. Informatics had many locations: Dhoby Ghaut MRT station, Tanjong Pagar, & Peace Centre. I had already gotten my degree & when I compared to what I was learning at informatics it made me realise how limited the diploma course was. It did not provide the students with enough programing experience. The PCs were usually infected with a virus :D They concentrated on the theories that anyone can pick up just by reading.
 
Are u a full stack developer? What source codes are u good at?


These days they want coders not programmers. Time changed.



Hi there,

I’m good with most of the programming languages. I’m here to get an expert advice to know whether I need to go for software development or secure software development (http://nci.ca/cyber-security/training/secure-software-development). One of my friends suggested me to go for secure development. I don’t know more about the future opportunities and pay scale for these. I don’t want to waste more than 3 months. Advise me the best course for my future.

Thanks.
 
Hi there,

I’m good with most of the programming languages. I’m here to get an expert advice to know whether I need to go for software development or secure software development (http://nci.ca/cyber-security/training/secure-software-development). One of my friends suggested me to go for secure development. I don’t know more about the future opportunities and pay scale for these. I don’t want to waste more than 3 months. Advise me the best course for my future.

Thanks.

Have not seen the need for this in my years in the industry. i have been across telco, technology, financial domains.
 
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Hi there,

I’m good with most of the programming languages. I’m here to get an expert advice to know whether I need to go for software development or secure software development (http://nci.ca/cyber-security/training/secure-software-development). One of my friends suggested me to go for secure development. I don’t know more about the future opportunities and pay scale for these. I don’t want to waste more than 3 months. Advise me the best course for my future.

Thanks.

if you become an expert in secure software development you will easily do well in general software development but not the other way round. like that also must seek advice. duh.
 
if you become an expert in secure software development you will easily do well in general software development but not the other way round. like that also must seek advice. duh.

Sinkee must always get approval before proceeding. You have been out of the country for too long. Will Trump appoint you the governor of Sinkapore?
 
Sinkee must always get approval before proceeding. You have been out of the country for too long. Will Trump appoint you the governor of Sinkapore?

cannot. if sg becums the 51st state of u.s., voters will have to elect a governor. potus cannot appoint governorship.
 
if you become an expert in secure software development you will easily do well in general software development but not the other way round. like that also must seek advice. duh.

its about the market ur appealing to,not how complicated the software is or how good the programming.just watch one of steve jobs old marketing videos,his company Nxt was at a crossroads whether they should pursue the powerful mainframe markets like ibm or SunMicrosystems or pursue another group of endusers the PC and MAc general market which wanted something smaller,easier to use and versatile with 3rd party apps but yet more powerful and possesses some of the power of the mainframe.he later came to the conclusion that the emerging PC and mac market end users was growing far more rapidly at a rate that was nearly 50 percent each year.

a simple game like minecraft can sell tens of millions of copies and generate hundreds of millions of dollars,better than creating some security software for corporations that u have to go cold call companies one by one and sell to.
 
its about the market ur appealing to,not how complicated the software is or how good the programming.just watch one of steve jobs old marketing videos,his company Nxt was at a crossroads whether they should pursue the powerful mainframe markets like ibm or SunMicrosystems or pursue another group of endusers the PC and MAc general market which wanted something smaller,easier to use and versatile with 3rd party apps but yet more powerful and possesses some of the power of the mainframe.he later came to the conclusion that the emerging PC and mac market end users was growing far more rapidly at a rate that was nearly 50 percent each year.

a simple game like minecraft can sell tens of millions of copies and generate hundreds of millions of dollars,better than creating some security software for corporations that u have to go cold call companies one by one and sell to.

suggest mastering more complicated and challenging secure software dev then attack the generic software market space with general purpose ott apps. no harm becumming better with dev ops with cyber security knowledge and skills then solving the easy part which is http. moreover there's so much hacking and security holes in http and ott apps that it's better for software developers to build in secure features on day 1 than scrambling to fix holes on day 2 and godknowswhen. just went through patches for 10 apps and add ons yesterday morning. cursing at those bochap and clueless developers right now - knnbccb.
 
[h=1]Watch out, coders -- a robot may take your job, too[/h]Researchers warn that a glut of code is coming that will depress wages and turn coders into Uber drivers

Chances are you're not too worried about a robot taking your job. After all, when we picture out-of-control automation,
we imagine that the blue-collar folks who work with their hands in the factories or checkout counters will be pushed
aside by a collection of chips, software, and servo-motors.

But don't be smug, techies. An intriguing new research paper from two major universities posits that even software developers,
the very people who program those machines, could face a future in which their skills are no longer needed and their incomes
drop precipitously as smart machines reduce the need for human-produced software to mere maintenance operations.


If that happens, wages will drop, demand will decline, investors will make smaller returns, and the capital needed for
future tech booms won't accumulate. "In other words, technological progress can be immiserating," say the authors of
"Robots are us: Some economics of human replacement."



The researchers -- Boston University's Seth Benzell, Laurence Kotlikoff, and Guillermo LaGarda, and Columbia University's
Jeffrey Sachs -- aren't predicting some silly, Terminator-like robot apocalypse.



What they are saying is that our economy is entering a new type of boom-and-bust cycle that accelerates the production of
new products and new code so rapidly that supply outstrips demand. The solution to that shortage will be to figure out how
not to need those hard-to-find human experts. In fact, it's already happening in some areas.


[h=3]After the developer boom comes the developer bust[/h]In the past, technological changes have generally spared the most highly skilled members of the workforce. But as we slide
down the backside of the cycle, the pain will be shared quite broadly. "The long run in such a case is no techno-utopia,"
the authors say. In that future, "code is abundant. But capital is dear. And yes, everyone is fully employed.
But no one is earning very much."


In the beginning of the cycle, demand for people who can write code soars, so wages go up, say the researchers.



That's exactly the situation we're in now, when demand for software developers is at an all-time high. In the last three months,
for example, employers have posted more than 100,000 openings for software engineers and developers on the Glassdoor site,
though not all the postings are still current.







 
[h=1]The future of artificial intelligence: Computers will take your job[/h]By Grant Gross Oct 6, 2014 1:40 PM PT

The field of artificial intelligence may not be able to create a robotic vacuum cleaner that never knocks over a vase,
at least not within a couple of years, but intelligent machines will increasingly replace knowledge workers in the near future,
a group of AI experts predicted.


An AI machine that can learn the same way humans do, and has the equivalent processing power of a human brain,
is still a few years off, the experts said. But AI programs that can reliably assist with medical diagnosis and offer sound
investing advice are on the near horizon, said Andrew McAfee, co-founder of the Initiative on the Digital Economy at the
Massachusetts Institute of Technology.


For decades, Luddites have mistakenly predicted that automation will create large unemployment problems, but those
predictions may finally come true as AI matures in the next few years, McAfee said Monday during a discussion on the
future of AI at the Council on Foreign Relations in Washington, D.C.


Innovative companies will increasingly combine human knowledge with AI knowledge to refine results, McAfee said.
“What smart companies are doing is buttressing a few brains with a ton of processing power and data,”
he said. “The economic consequences of that are going to be profound and are going to come sooner than a lot of us think.”


[h=2]Rote work will be replaced by machines[/h] Many knowledge workers today get paid to do things that computers will soon be able to do, McAfee predicted.
“I don’t think a lot of employers are going to be willing to pay a lot of people for what they’re currently doing,” he said.


Software has already replaced human payroll processors, and AI will increasingly move up the skill ladder to replace
U.S. middle-class workers, he said. He used the field of financial advising as an example.


It’s a “bad joke” that humans almost exclusively produce financial advice today, he said. “There’s no way a human can
keep on top of all possible financial instruments, analyze their performance in any rigorous way, and assemble them in
a portfolio that makes sense for where you are in your life.”


But AI still has many limitations, with AI scientists still not able to “solve the problem of common sense, of endowing a
computer with the knowledge that every 5-year-old has,” said Paul Cohen, program manager in the Information Innovation
Office at the U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) and founding director of the University of Arizona School
of Information’s science, technology and arts program.


There is, however, a class of problems where AI will do “magnificent things,” by pulling information out of huge data sets to
make increasingly specific distinctions, he added. IBM’s recent decision to
focus its Watson AI computer on medical diagnostics
is a potential “game changer,” he said.


[h=2]Matching data to profiles[/h] “Medical diagnosis is about making finer and finer distinctions,” he said. “Online marketing is about making finer and finer distinctions.
If you think about it, much of the technology humans interact with is about putting you in a particular bucket.”


McAfee agreed with Cohen about the potential of AI for medical diagnosis. “I have a very good primary care physician, but there’s
no possible way he can stay on top of all the relevant medical knowledge he would have to read,” he said. “Human computers are
amazing, but they have lots of glitches. They have all kinds of flaws and biases.”


AI machines are still a ways off from equalling the processing power of the human brain, but that’s largely a problem with hardware
resources, said Peter Bock, an emeritus professor of engineering at George Washington University. Scientists should be able to build
an AI device that matches the processing power of a human brain within 12 years, he predicted.


That AI device would then take several years to learn the information it needs to function like a human brain, just as a child needs
years to develop, he said.


One audience member asked the AI experts if the technology will ever replace computer programmers.
If scientists are eventually able to build an AI machine that has the processing power of a human brain, that machine
“could become a programmer,” Bock said. “She might become an actress. Why not? They can be anything they want.”


DARPA now has a project that focuses on using software to assemble code, by pulling from code that someone has already written,
Cohen said. Many programmers today focus more on assembling code from resources such as StackOverflow.com, instead of
re-creating code that already exists, he said, and DARPA has automated that process.


Humans still have to tell the assembling program what they want the final code to do, he noted.


At some point, an AI program may be able to write code, but that’s still years off, McAfee said. In order to deny that could never happen,
“you’d have to believe there’s something ineffable about the human brain, that there’s some kind of spark of a soul or something that
could never be understood,” he said. “I don’t believe that.”


There are things humans can still do, however, that have “proved really, really resistant to understanding, let alone automation,
” McAfee added. “I think of programming as long-form creative work. I’ve never seen a long-form creative output from a machine
that is anything except a joke or mishmash.”






 
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