Old fart blowing for Hu in full view

[Katana]

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Nov 14, 2009
APEC MEETINGS
Chinese want better lives <!--10 min-->
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Mr Lee was the guest speaker during a dialogue at the summit. -- PHOTO: REUTERS
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CHINA may not have a democratic system but its people are currently more interested in obtaining higher standards of living than they are in votes and freedom of speech. That was the point made by Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew on Friday during an exchange with Time International editor Michael Elliott. The two were speaking during a dialogue at the Apec CEO Summit. Mr Lee was the guest speaker and Mr Elliott was the moderator of the session. Mr Lee had been outlining what he saw as the benefits of the Chinese leadership system when Mr Elliot remarked: 'It's not a democratic system.' 'The Chinese people are not interested,' was the Minister Mentor's quick retort. He explained that as the Chinese were trying to catch up with the world, their primary concern was with achieving the standard of living they saw in the more developed Asian economies. 'You got your pro-democracy activists, but do the Chinese people worry about their vote and freedom of speech? They want the lives that they see in Hong Kong, in Singapore and before this downturn, in Taiwan,' he said.

Conduct a nationwide poll and see how many local singaporeans (excluding PRs, new citizens) are really happy. And don't alter the figures!

 

[Goh Meng Seng]

It is really a strange thing.

LKY isn't a Chinese National, hardly interact with those PRCs in mainland China (well, Singaporeans hardly have a chance to talk to him face to face anyway), how could he speak as if he know what the layman in China thinks?

"The Chinese are not interested (in democracy)." He said but is he speaking on behalf of all the Chinese in mainland China? Well, someone should ask him back using his previous style and insistence on the poor ex-ST reporter, who told you so? Base on what statistic? What survey? Where are the survey conducted? Who are the ones who specifically told you that? What names?...etc.

Strange indeed, for our leader to speak on behalf of another country on what they want. Does he know what Singaporeans want in the very first place?

Goh Meng Seng

Home > Breaking News > Singapore > Story
Nov 14, 2009
APEC MEETINGS
Chinese want better lives <!--10 min-->
They are more keen on better living standards than a democratic system <!-- headline one : start --> <!-- headline one : end --> <!-- Author --> <!-- show image if available --> <table border="0" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"> <tbody><tr></tr> <tr> </tr> <tr> </tr> <tr> </tr> <tr><td colspan="2" class="padlrt8 georgia11 darkgrey bold">By Jeremy Au Yong </td></tr> <tr valign="bottom"> <td width="330">

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Mr Lee was the guest speaker during a dialogue at the summit. -- PHOTO: REUTERS
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CHINA may not have a democratic system but its people are currently more interested in obtaining higher standards of living than they are in votes and freedom of speech. That was the point made by Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew on Friday during an exchange with Time International editor Michael Elliott. The two were speaking during a dialogue at the Apec CEO Summit. Mr Lee was the guest speaker and Mr Elliott was the moderator of the session. Mr Lee had been outlining what he saw as the benefits of the Chinese leadership system when Mr Elliot remarked: 'It's not a democratic system.' 'The Chinese people are not interested,' was the Minister Mentor's quick retort. He explained that as the Chinese were trying to catch up with the world, their primary concern was with achieving the standard of living they saw in the more developed Asian economies. 'You got your pro-democracy activists, but do the Chinese people worry about their vote and freedom of speech? They want the lives that they see in Hong Kong, in Singapore and before this downturn, in Taiwan,' he said.

Conduct a nationwide poll and see how many local singaporeans (excluding PRs, new citizens) are really happy.

 

[hairylee]

There is only one word that can send Old Fart rocketing to the Moon -

Democracy!!!!!​

Who is he to speak on behalf of the Chinese Leader.

 

[sufferwell]

 

[shelltox]

Who cares about democracy, is it going to bring bread and butter to the table.
If democracy works wonder, why are there so many filipinos working as maid in singapore. India would had been the most properous country in Asia.

 

[littlefish]

Who cares about democracy, is it going to bring bread and butter to the table.
If democracy works wonder, why are there so many filipinos working as maid in singapore. India would had been the most properous country in Asia.

Nobody said that democracy is a silver bullet but the fact remains that out of all the political systems, democracy offers the best chance for the downtrodden to have their rights upheld and their views heard. In countries like Singapore where people are more interested in making money than having opinions, I concede that democracy may not be valued highly. However, that still does not explain what qualifies LKY to speak on behlaf of the Chinese.

The keywords here are "the best chance". Please do not quote specific examples where democracy did not work. I can also quote examples where lack of democracy destroyed a country.

 

[jim007jimmyboy]

this is how u should
squeeze Ho Jinx lanjiao!​

 

[TeeKee]

world democracy index..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democracy_Index

 

[tanboonlock]

what to do, all of us are under his rule.